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2012-11-16 China-Japan-Koreas
China's carrier forces US Navy rethink
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Posted by 746 2012-11-16 12:03|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [246 views ]  Top

#1 Perhaps President Obama was mistaken when his debate point was that we have more ships than we need?
Posted by trailing wife 2012-11-16 13:02||   2012-11-16 13:02|| Front Page Top

#2 When we can't pay our debts to China do they get to re-possess our aircraft carriers?
Posted by Glenmore 2012-11-16 13:07||   2012-11-16 13:07|| Front Page Top

#3 One carrier is a target.

Yes it is the first step to getting a serious blue-water navy but not the step I'd take if I was China.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-11-16 15:14||   2012-11-16 15:14|| Front Page Top

#4 "do they get to re-possess our aircraft carriers?"

They can always try....
Posted by Barbara 2012-11-16 15:34||   2012-11-16 15:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Pre-1939 Munich Conference + Alsace-Lorraine + Partition of Czechoslovakia, Poland, + Manchuria, etc. = 2012 Greek Islands per the so-called "Troika" = US ISLANDS IN ASIA-PACIFIC???

Why NOT one or more US CVNS to China, starting wid the legendary USS ENTERPRISE???

See also late 1960's SINO-SOVIET BORDER/RIVERINE CLASHES, espec as per outcomes for disputed riverine islands.

As for possible future, China-demanded ANTI-US/CVN "NO-GO" DECLARATION ZONES, WE ALREADY KNOW FROM PAST CHINESE MILBLOG ARTICS THAT GUAM-CNMI + WESTPAC IS VERY LIKELY ONE OF THEM.

* FYI DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > PLA GENERAL [RADM.Ying Zhuo] SAID CHINA IS DEVELOPING 40,000-TON LHD, WZ-10 [+ WZ-19] WILL BE ON-BOARD. Poten up to 48K-ton + 38 Strike Helos.

* IIRC same > VIDEO: RUSSIA SHOWS OFF MODEL OF ITS FUTURE AIRCRAFT CARRIER.

US-style Nuclear Supercarrier wid Russian characteristics, i.e. wid an extra extra-long Angled Deck plus forward VSTOL Ski-Jump on the bow.

* SAME > WHAT DOES CHINA'S SSBN SUBMARINES MEAN TO TO THE US?

ARTIC = denotes that, for the time being, the CPLAN's latest Boomer Subs have to deploy close to Hawaii AMAP in EASTPAC to launch their SLBMS + SLCMS agz CONUS.

Lest we fergit, RETIRED JMSDF ADMIRAL = argued that China wants to possess the Japan-controlled Senkakaus [China = Diaoyus] to help protect the northern approaches to its desired future SUB HAVEN in the South China Sea. SOUTH CHINA SEA "SUB HAVEN" = SOVIET + POST-SOVIET RUSSIAN STRATEGIC MILITARY ZONE IN THE SEA OF OKHOSTK + KAMCHATKA.

* DAILY TIMES.PK > US "PIVOT" TO ASIA: WHERE BASES ARE NOT BASES. US leasing or sub-leasing of former Cold War Milbases in Philippines + SE Asia akin to leasing a quality car but widout all the hassles or stresses [$$$] of actually buying or owning same.

versus

* TOPIX > NO ROOM TO BACK OFF, SAYS CHINA ON DISPUTED ISLANDS.

"Post-US", Future World #1 Rising China has no place to back off to except its own mainland, i.e. where it started from and remains.

* WORLD NEWS > CLINTON: US MUST REMAIN NEUTRAL IN SOUTH AND EAST CHINA SEAS.

* SAME > CHINA RULES OUT "TIME LIMITS" FOR PATROLLING JAPAN-ADMINISTERED SENKAKU ISLANDS.

RELATED SAME, CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > CHINA TO SEND [active-duty PLAN] WARSHIPS TO DISPUTED ISLES | PLA TO ADAPT WARSHIPS FOR DIAYU PATROL, under the auspice of China Marine Surveillance [CMS].

IOW, Japan will have to send out it active-duty surface warfare vessels, etc. lest it wants its Japan Coast Guard to be outmatched, outclassed, + outgunned.

* NEWS KERALA > CHINA'S JAPANESE ISLAND SPAT AIMED AT GARNERING STRATEGIC MILITARY SUPERIORITY OVER THE US.

* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > WESTERN SPECIALISTS: CHINA'S LATEST TYPE 041B "YUAN"-CLASS SSKS MAY CARRY ANTI-NAVAL CRUISE MISSLES, PLUS ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSLES.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > REPORT: CHINA DEVELOPS ROCKET THAT CAN DO "S-CURVE" ATTACKS [maneuvers], ALA "MOSKIT" MISSLES.

Will China follow Iran's example and develop a LR UAV that can serve as "carrier" [Mothership] for a number of Attack Micro/Mini-UAVS???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-11-16 19:55||   2012-11-16 19:55|| Front Page Top

#6 OOOOPPPSSSIES, forgot WORLD NEWS > SPACE WARFARE AND THE FUTURE OF US GLOBAL POWER. BY 2020 THE US PENTAGON HOPES TO "PATROL THE ENTIRE GLOBE CEASELESSLY", RELENTLESSLY VIA A "TRIPLE-CANOPY SPACE SHIELD".

But-t-t, first thingys come first ...

* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > CHINA HAS ENOUGH STRATEGIC NUCLEAR MISSLES TO DESTROY JAPAN'S 25 LARGEST CITIES AND MILITARY BASES WHILE HAVING ENOUGH IN REMAINDER TO DETER OR RETALIATE AGZ ANY US COUNTER-STRIKE.

* SAME > THINK-TANK: WORLD STRATEGIC BALANCE TO CHANGE IFF CHINA ENTERS ARCTIC RESOURCES RACE, CHINA'S "NORTHERN STRATEGY" TO ASSERT LEGAL STATUS, CHINESE SOVEREIGNTY ON ARCTIC AREAS.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINA GETS TOUGH ON HONG-KONG TROUBLEMAKERS | LOVE CHINA OR LEAVE IT, LIU PING TELLS HONG-KONG'S WOULD-NBE SECESSIONISTS/SEPARATISTS.

* SAME > HOW THE US INFILTRATES CHINA'S COMMUNIST PARTY [CPC]. Many of the CPC's ruling elites send their kids off to attend top-tier US Schools, e.g. Harvard, where they learn the latest in business, plus free-market or laissez-faire economics. Ditto already-established, lower-level, up-n-coming Party Officios, Bureacrats as per professional career-management training.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-11-16 20:13||   2012-11-16 20:13|| Front Page Top

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