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US Soldier Suicides Outnumber Combat Deaths In 2012

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Posted by tipper 2012-12-29 01:41|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 How does this compare with the same civilian cohort of same sex/age?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-12-29 07:37|| 2012-12-29 07:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Suicide notes are often left. What did the notes say? What do toxicology reports reveal? Who was his or her "battle buddy" and what did they report? Lap top e-mails? Sites visited? Statistics do nothing. Results of investigations and recommendations might point to common contributing factors and enable mitigation measures.

Posted by Besoeker 2012-12-29 08:16|| 2012-12-29 08:16|| Front Page Top

#3 How does this compare with the same civilian cohort of same sex/age?

Come on, the ~~MSM~~ Ministry of Truth isn't really interested in that aspect of relativity any more than the life expectancy of a young black male in the service versus one in Chicago.

Posted by P2Kontheroad 2012-12-29 08:39|| 2012-12-29 08:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Another fact necessary to understand this item is the previously calculated incidences of suicide among active-duty Reserve and NG soldiers, expressed as # suicides/total population.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-12-29 08:57|| 2012-12-29 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Some stuff on suicides for whatever it is worth: Suicide rates by country and U.S. suicide rates. I wondered if the rate for active duty military and Reserve and National Guard soldiers was higher than the civilian population. A concern is that the active duty military rates seem to be increasing from year to year.

Posted by JohnQC 2012-12-29 09:58|| 2012-12-29 09:58|| Front Page Top

#6 First thought is that combat deaths are way down. Second thought is impossible ROE's causing problems.

Posted by Iblis 2012-12-29 11:22|| 2012-12-29 11:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Whoever wrote this article needs to retake basic math:
212 US KIA this year
177 potential suicides this year.
Iblis is on to something. Casualties are way down.

Apparently has nothing to do with combat:
About 53 percent of those who died by suicide in the military in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, had no history of deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan, according to the Defense Department. And nearly 85 percent of military members who took their lives had no direct combat history, meaning they may have been deployed but not seen action.

Posted by Frozen Al 2012-12-29 11:49|| 2012-12-29 11:49|| Front Page Top

#8 According to Wiki for 2010, the US is tenth in gun-related deaths but 60% of those are suicides. Guess the UN should address this--a rash of self-induced murders is sweeping Mexico and Brazil....

Posted by Kojo Wholuse5660 2012-12-29 11:49|| 2012-12-29 11:49|| Front Page Top

#9 An Inquiry

Posted by newc 2012-12-29 16:17|| 2012-12-29 16:17|| Front Page Top

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