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#1 The Pope HAS to be the Biggest Hypocrite in History.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-14 00:54||
#2 >"Shut Up."
Shows their tolerance of differing opinion.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-01-14 04:56||
#3 One of them, Inna Shevchenko....,
...who took personal leave and marched traveled at her own expense as secretary of the sisterhood of Gaye Russian Brides Local 1268.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-14 05:29||
#4 I'm not catholic but the older I get the more I appreciate them. The pope is trying to hold a line while a lot of other denominations are backing down, or "liberalizing". My hat's off to him.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-01-14 11:34||
#5 I gave up on Christians when I heard the "Leaders" Convened and MADE the dates for Easter, Christmas and all other Holy Days, according to a Convention, NOT according to the real dates.
In plain words, "Invented Them".
It's NOT the "Correct" Dates, then it's not real
Just "Invented" an I want none of it.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-14 12:54||
#6 Redneck Jim: You might have a reason to complain about the absence of a firm date for Christmas in the Gospels.
The date of the Last Supper, however, is set _in the Gospels_ as happening during Passover, thus setting the date of Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday permanently in relation to Passover; Easter will always be the third day after Passover. No council, Catholic or Protestant, decided that. It's in the book.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-01-14 17:43||
#7 I am stunned that an undiscovered anthropoid explained that so well.
It's just like that RJ, Christmas is uncertan (I think it was on July 4th) but Easter is kinda set in stone from way, way, way the hell back and it has to do with Juices and their angry, angry gawd.
Posted by Shipman 2013-01-14 18:37||
#8 Dec. 25th (or Jan 6th in the old Julian calendar) was derived via a belief that Jesus was conceived on the same day of the year as the day on which he would later be crucified.
Such a belief is consonant with a Talmudic tradition that asserts the same thing about the Patriarchs of the Old Testament. It places Jesus as the culmination of the Patriarchs, again consonant with the earliest Church traditions.
At least some of the local churches, particularly those in north Africa near to Israel, appear to have held that to be the day of Jesus' birth from very early times. It wasn't made up arbitrarily, but was seen as exhibiting a deep symbolic and spiritual truth, not only about Jesus as fulfillment of OT promises but also in the context of the Church's annual calendar - the seasons of Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, Easter, Pentacost etc. following one another in progression and offering a sequence of focus for reflection, celebration and self-examination.
Posted by lotp 2013-01-14 19:12||
#9 Dec. 25th
Personally, I care more about the reason for the season, than the calendar date. My Christmas cactus blooms the 1st week in January (I think it's Russian Orthodox)
Posted by SteveS 2013-01-14 23:27||