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2013-07-15 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Dershowitz: Zimmerman Special Prosecutor Angela Corey Should Be Disbarred

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2013-07-15 10:48|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Overcharging seems to be common practice among prosecutors at all levels.

Posted by Pappy 2013-07-15 12:48|| 2013-07-15 12:48|| Front Page Top

#2 That's because, as The Professor says, prosectors have no skin in the game and are rarley punished for their actions (one exception being the Duke lacrosse nonsense, and only because those boys came from families that could afford high-powered attorneys).

Posted by Dopey Sinatra 2013-07-15 13:15|| 2013-07-15 13:15|| Front Page Top

#3 When I ganced over this headline I read "disemboweled." Seems about right.

Posted by Iblis 2013-07-15 14:03|| 2013-07-15 14:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Several years ago I was called to serve jury duty for a trial eerily similar to the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman trial. As a former juror I was somewhat aghast when I learned that the judge and the prosecution had been allowed to include additional charges after testimony had concluded.

Prior to the beginning of the trial I was involved in, all primary and secondary jurors met for two full days to receive instructions on the statutes and to what points of law constitutes guilt or innocence in each leagal instance. After the trial commenced we met each morning before we were seated and were briefed on the testimony we should expect to hear that day. We were instructed on decisions that we would be required to make as to whether or not testimony proved guilt or innocence on each point of each one of the statutes requirements.

During a murder trial jurors are required to digest and understand huge amounts of information. The entire process is designed to assist jurors in makeing decisions a point at a time during the time that the testimony is being presented. We were instructed to take notes as to why we decided the way we did on each point to assist us in presenting our argument, if necessary, during the deliberation phase. We were also given various materials to assist us in making decisions as to whether or not each requirement of a law had or had not been fulfilled by the testimony we were hearing.

From a jurors point of view the actions of the judge in the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman trial throws the whole process into complete disarray. How can a juror be expected to work their way through to a proper final vedict if they do not know each and every charge the defendent is charged with BEFORE they hear testimony ? It's an impossible task to assign to the jury to go back and try to make decisions on charges they did not even know existed or statutes they did not understand before they heard testimony.

From the perspective of a former juror this trial can only be seen as a an absolute travesty. And that does not even take into consideration the damage done to the defense by the judge refuseing to make decisions on the evidence she will allow prior to the beginning of the trial or allow ample time for the defence to adjust or recover or attempt necessary discovery as a result of her decisions.

I consider the inclusion of additional charges as a last ditch effort on the part of the judge and prosecution to salvage at least some kind of a guilty verdict to justify themselves and the fact that the case should never ever have been brought to trial in the first place.

On the morning of the second day of deliberation (of the George Zimmerman trial) the jury asked the judge to send in more information on the laws conserning manslaughter (they probably needed instruction on the entire statute). The judge sent back a note that they needed to be more specific.

Try to imagine the dismay of a jurror that had already been sequestered for more than three weeks, at the prospect of having start from the beginning, learn the laws, and then try to work their way through each and every complicated issue they were presented. An extremely time consumeing and impossible task.

I can easily imagine the jurors throwing their hands in the air and saying they cannot possibly expect us to do this. We can only deliberate on what we know and we don't know anything about manslaughter. Most if not all the jury probably already had their minds made up about the first degree murder charge and the actions of the judge just further sealed their decisions. Those jurors who may have been indecisive were probably more than willing to forgo manslaughter deliberations and just go along with those advocateing for a not guilty verdict.

The entire fiasco from beginning to end should never have happened. If the DOJ wants to investigate something they should investigate the attempted railroading of a man named George Zimmerman by both the Federal and the Florida State judicial systems.

Posted by junkiron 2013-07-15 14:09|| 2013-07-15 14:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe as the light shines on this prosecuter a few other cases she's abused will get more attention. I'm speaking primarily about the black lady who was apparantly arrested for firing a warning shot to scare off a husband who had abused her and had a restraining order. I might be mangling the facts, but if there is any truth to it someone should look into it and make sure it was all proper because using a gun in defense is not a crime and throwing someone in jail for defending themselves while being black is a travesty.

Posted by rjschwarz 2013-07-15 14:38|| 2013-07-15 14:38|| Front Page Top

#6 I can easily imagine the jurors throwing their hands in the air...

Interesting theory, junkiron. It explains why there was no follow-up to the request for more info (which was strange) and why the jury did not 'compromise' with manslaughter (which was surprising, at least to me). And I completely agree with your conclusion.

Posted by SteveS 2013-07-15 15:00|| 2013-07-15 15:00|| Front Page Top

#7 @#5 I was outraged at the Marissa Alexander verdict too until I looked into it some more.
1. She was not living in the house, he was.
2. She went there, put her car in the garage, went inside got into a screaming match, allegedly said "I got something for you" went out to the car, came back and fired 2 shots into the wall at head height. Oh yes, she also claims that the garage door that had just opened refused to open when she tried to leave.
3. Warning shots are illegal in virtually every state in the country.
4. She was offered a plea that would have been guilty in exchange for time served and refused.

Posted by Chantry 2013-07-15 18:08|| 2013-07-15 18:08|| Front Page Top

#8 I suspect that at the time they asked the question to the judge, they were 5 no votes and 1 uncertain on the manslaughter charge. After they got the response I wonder if the one holdout said "heck with this, I'm voting not guilty" and settled it.

Posted by Steve White 2013-07-15 18:10|| 2013-07-15 18:10|| Front Page Top

#9 adding manslaughter was a reasonable move because the 'malicious intent' component of the charge against zimmerman collapsed completely

the jury may have thought that the 'self defense' issue was different between murder 2 and manslaughter but it isn't

Posted by lord garth 2013-07-15 18:10|| 2013-07-15 18:10|| Front Page Top

#10 I'd have hung the M-F'n jury just out of principle.
Pull a new charge out of your arse after its all said and done?
I call B.S.

Posted by Vernal Clusose9088 2013-07-15 22:30|| 2013-07-15 22:30|| Front Page Top

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