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2014-07-31 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

MASSIVE PALESTINIAN SNEAK ATTACK Against Jewish State Planned For 12 Years

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Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-07-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Take them out. Resolve and Stamina.

Posted by newc 2014-07-31 00:07|| 2014-07-31 00:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Luckily Netanyahu didn't order his border patrol and military to pull back, and offer Hamas hot showers, rations, energy drinks, and diaper changes.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-31 00:44|| 2014-07-31 00:44|| Front Page Top

#3 That's because they don't do jobs that Israelis won't, Besoeker.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-07-31 00:48|| 2014-07-31 00:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Well Grom won the snark 'o the day.

Posted by DarthVader 2014-07-31 01:25|| 2014-07-31 01:25|| Front Page Top

#5 Certainly something to be said for picking one's own cotton.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-31 01:32|| 2014-07-31 01:32|| Front Page Top

#6 something suspicious about this

if Hamas was planning the tunnel offensive for sept 27, why did it begin rocket attacks against Israel in early July --

Posted by lord garth 2014-07-31 09:07|| 2014-07-31 09:07|| Front Page Top

#7 I'll bet there are a bunch of tunnels that have been started but not finished. These could be a huge problem, especially if all that's left to do is dig out the exit.

Posted by gorb 2014-07-31 10:51|| 2014-07-31 10:51|| Front Page Top

#8 re: #6 something suspicious about this

The report says Bibi N. informed the security cabinet about the plan last week.

My suspicion is that he and his inner circle knew about the Hamas plan for some time and began taking preemptive actions against the tunnels before they became a problem.

Hamas, not looking kindly at this action, began launching the rockets, thus bringing us to where we are today.

Just my 2-cents.

Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-07-31 11:17|| 2014-07-31 11:17|| Front Page Top

#9 if Hamas was planning the tunnel offensive for sept 27, why did it begin rocket attacks against Israel in early July --

I wonder about that too. Maybe that kidnapping wasn't planned or else things just spun out of control after the kidnapping. Also possible that some of the Gazooks with rockets didn't get the memo. Well, you know about the best laid plans of mice and men especially in Gaza.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-07-31 11:22|| 2014-07-31 11:22|| Front Page Top

#10 if Hamas was planning the tunnel offensive for sept 27, why did it begin rocket attacks against Israel in early July --

Inventory reduction ?

Posted by Besoeker 2014-07-31 11:25|| 2014-07-31 11:25|| Front Page Top

#11 #10 if Hamas was planning the tunnel offensive for sept 27, why did it begin rocket attacks against Israel in early July --

Asked to not disturb the elections.

Posted by Skidmark 2014-07-31 12:50|| 2014-07-31 12:50|| Front Page Top

#12 3 murder/kidnappings likely a trial attack and Israel starts getting a clue about the tunnels so Hamas begins a rocket attack early.

Best laid plans and all that jazz.

Posted by 3dc 2014-07-31 13:37|| 2014-07-31 13:37|| Front Page Top

#13 My guess is that the offensive start when it did because of the PA-Hamas reconciliation talks. They had agreed to stop murdering each other, recall, and form a single oppressive govt. That sort of thing didn't go over with one faction or the other, probably Islamic Jihad. They were the ones who started with the rocketry if I recall correctly. They usually play the loose cannon when Hamas is trying to appear reasonable. Hamas couldn't control it because the order came from either Teheran or Beirut.

The order probably said "Just keep shooting until they do something," thinking the result would be another week or two Gaza op with widespread support among Arab govts, the usual atrocity claims, and a UNSC-imposed ceasefire.

Things aren't like they were last time. Egypt is in an anti-Moslem Brüderbund frame of mind and Ansar Beit al-Maqdisi and similar salafist groups in Sinai kind of rub their faces in the "terrorism is terrorism" thing. Obama is a cipher and Kerry a nitwit. They've alienated Netanyahu and U.S.-Israeli relations are the worst they've ever been. Therefore the U.S. can't bully Tel Aviv into a stupid ceasefire.

There's also the fact that they pounded Hezbollah to paste in 2006 (remember Green Helmet Guy?) and the Hezbullies have been crowing about their Famous Victory ever since. Hamas tried the same "declare victory in the rubble" routine the last time the IDF came knocking. Remember they were going to "destroy Hamas?" This time there's no such claim. They intend to destroy the tunnel infrastructure.

The final thing is that the Hamas atrocity claims have also worn thin. You can't replay the same movie over and over every few years and expect the public to continue showing up and believing in it. The revelations about command centers under hospitals and rockets stored in schools are a little too putrid for all but the True Believer to buy them.

Posted by Fred 2014-07-31 14:21|| 2014-07-31 14:21|| Front Page Top

#14 Obama is a cipher and Kerry a nitwit.

Good analysis. My only slight point of departure is that both Obama and Kerry are ciphers and nitwits.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-07-31 18:40|| 2014-07-31 18:40|| Front Page Top

#15 Assume Israelis have ground radar.

Posted by KBK 2014-07-31 19:17|| 2014-07-31 19:17|| Front Page Top

#16 And skorpions with frickin TeeVee

Posted by Shipman 2014-07-31 22:44|| 2014-07-31 22:44|| Front Page Top

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