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2014-09-06 -Lurid Crime Tales-

IRS Says It Has Lost Emails From 5 More Employees

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Posted by Fred 2014-09-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Andrei, you've lost another five submarines?

Posted by SteveS 2014-09-06 00:39|| 2014-09-06 00:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Some times under heavy medication (like now) and I see article like this, I can close my augens and see on the far horizon, a wall. A plain wall such as you would find behind a barn.

Posted by Shipman 2014-09-06 01:07|| 2014-09-06 01:07|| Front Page Top

#3 To quote Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit: "OH, SCREW THIS. JUST START BEHEADING PEOPLE."

Posted by DarthVader 2014-09-06 02:11|| 2014-09-06 02:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Sad thing is, civil service laws are such that in January 2017 President Palin is going to find it very hard to fire these people...

Posted by Steve White 2014-09-06 07:47|| 2014-09-06 07:47|| Front Page Top

#5 BADGES? WE don't need no stinkin' BADGES.

And if you can't trust your friendly conscientious Civil Service IRS, who CAN you trust ?

They just live and breath to serve the Public.
Now bend over, Citizen.

Posted by Big Thromoth3646 2014-09-06 08:15|| 2014-09-06 08:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Didn't we go to war with a king over this kind of thing?

Posted by JohnQC 2014-09-06 09:10|| 2014-09-06 09:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Just checking - Lois' Massachusetts law license is inactive (search parameters don't embed themselves in the URL).

Likely explanation - she let it expire.

Posted by Raj 2014-09-06 09:23|| 2014-09-06 09:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Were this a Republican administration, the mainstream press would be screaming about corruption and "The coverup is worse than the crime".

Our press has become an information suppression and partisan propaganda device, not a free press. And shackles work quite well when they are voluntarily assumed and worn by the slaves.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-09-06 13:10|| 2014-09-06 13:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Sad thing is, civil service laws are such that in January 2017 President Palin is going to find it very hard to fire these people...

Laws? The Precedent has set the stage, who needs laws. Whomever the next president is, need only issue their decree. Besides, the president is the Chief Executive, and these agencies fall under the Executive Branch.

Voila! Massive headcount reduction, lock them out of their email, take their stinkin' badges and start the prosecutions.

Posted by Sonny Glarong6820 2014-09-06 13:41|| 2014-09-06 13:41|| Front Page Top

#10 Didn't Reagan fire the striking air controllers? There is precedent.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2014-09-06 14:13|| 2014-09-06 14:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Raj: attorneys must deliberately choose to change their status from active to inactive, and must still pay bar dues - typically because they are not practicing law and are not seeking to return to the active practice of law anytime soon. It's just a box you check on your dues statement every year.

Not to defend Lerner, but going inactive is common when lawyers work in non-lawyer positions, and nothing can be read into it.

Disciplined or disbarred, well, that is different.

Posted by RandomJD 2014-09-06 15:06|| 2014-09-06 15:06|| Front Page Top

#12 "nothing can be read into it" Knowing this is just as important as knowing how to read.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-09-06 15:24|| 2014-09-06 15:24|| Front Page Top

#13 The formalized changes to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure in December 2006 and in 2007 effectively forced civil litigants into a compliance mode with respect to their proper retention and management of electronically stored information (ESI). Improper management of ESI can result in a finding of spoliation of evidence and the imposition of one or more sanctions including an adverse inference jury instructions, summary judgement, monetary fines, and other sanctions. In some cases, such as Qualcomm v Broadcom, attorneys can be brought before the bar and risk their livelihood.

The spoliation of evidence is the intentional or negligent withholding, hiding, altering, or destroying of evidence relevant to a legal proceeding.[1] Spoliation has two possible consequences: in jurisdictions where the (intentional) act is criminal by statute, it may result in fines and incarceration for the parties who engaged in the spoliation; in jurisdictions where relevant case law precedent has been established, proceedings possibly altered by spoliation may be interpreted under a spoliation inference.

A closely related concept to spoliation of evidence is tampering with evidence, which is usually the criminal-law version of the same concept, namely when a person alters, conceals, falsifies, or destroys evidence in an investigation by law enforcement or by a regulatory authority. An act of ruining or destroying evidence may sometimes be considered both spoliation of evidence and tampering with evidence. For example, when police destroy their own dashboard-camera footage or seize and destroy a citizen's video footage of an incident, it may constitute spoliation of evidence in a criminal case against the defendant if the footage tended to create reasonable doubt for the defendant, and also constitute tampering if the video were evidence of police misconduct in a criminal or regulatory investigation of the police's actions. The goal of spoliating or tampering with evidence is usually to cover up evidence that would be disfavorable to the doer in some way.

Spoliation of evidence is often important in e-discovery matters, as oftentimes records in electronic form such as SMS messages may be difficult to retrieve, preserve, or monitor.

Companies and organizations often attempt to avoid spoliation of evidence (or being accused or held liable therewith) by using a legal hold. Often, the legal departments of the company or organization will issue a prescribed order to the relevant employees to retain and preserve their discoverable materials (such as e-mails and documents).

Wikipedia.org

In other words, all that needs to be done is charge all of these people with spoliation of evidence and then the burden shifts to them to prove their innocence.

Posted by Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2014-09-06 16:40|| 2014-09-06 16:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Yeah, well doggone it, I seem to have misplaced my 2014 Form 1040-ES Payment Voucher 3 for the estimated prepayment of my 2015 federal income tax, due on 9/15/2014. But they'll understand, right?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2014-09-06 17:27|| 2014-09-06 17:27|| Front Page Top

#15 I think it was for quite a bit of money.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2014-09-06 17:32|| 2014-09-06 17:32|| Front Page Top

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