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2014-09-30 Down Under

Australia destroys individual liberty but does nothing to stop home-grown Islamist fascists

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Posted by anon1 2014-09-30 03:30|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Laws passed in haste by people who didn't read them?
Many Senators clearly hadn't read the 128 pages of major legal changes in the NSA Bill.

We have a health care bill of around 3000 pages which was rushed through a Democratically-controlled Congress which was unread. It is is still highly unpopular. It sounds like the same scoundrels are behind your heavy-handed law which threatens liberty as were behind Obamacare.

anon 1: Too bad you don't have a 2nd Amendment to provide some checks against the possibility of a tyrannical government. Although, our present far left-wing government is trying to neuter this amendment here.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-09-30 08:47|| 2014-09-30 08:47|| Front Page Top

#2 And just how does the new situation in Oz substantially differ from the current 'secret police' powers being exercised in the USA with its secret court system beyond the review of its 'regular' court system?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-09-30 13:30|| 2014-09-30 13:30|| Front Page Top

#3 “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Ben Franklin

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-09-30 16:29|| 2014-09-30 16:29|| Front Page Top

#4 A discussion of the unconstitutionality of FISA courts. Here. The conclusion is that Constitution is being ignored but shouldn't by this administration. Otherwise what PK2 said.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-09-30 18:09|| 2014-09-30 18:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Actually there has been some efforts to reform the FISA court by both parties and Obama. Reform. However, as one can see, the chances of passing any reforms are slim.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-09-30 18:26|| 2014-09-30 18:26|| Front Page Top

#6 ~~efforts~~ effort

Posted by JohnQC 2014-09-30 18:28|| 2014-09-30 18:28|| Front Page Top

#7 .....#7 above is NOT my post.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-09-30 18:56|| 2014-09-30 18:56|| Front Page Top

#8 LOL d00ds we got a shape shifter troll.

Posted by Shipman 2014-09-30 19:47|| 2014-09-30 19:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Knew immediately, the I in terrorist isn't dotted with heart.

Posted by Shipman 2014-09-30 19:49|| 2014-09-30 19:49|| Front Page Top

#10 Perhaps as like the OWG Mighty USSA = OWG Weak USRA Global SSR = post-2015 OWG NAU Global Fed Union, the Secular Commies + aligned Marxists-Globalists, etal. think they can control Soon-to-be-Nukulaar Radical Islam or Nuclear Islam.

They may indeed succeed in forcibly imposing some kind of "justified" Socialism-Govtism on an unsuspecting Amerika - THE JURY IS STILL OUT, HOWEVER, ON WHETHER SAIDSAME SOCIALISM-GOVTISM WILL BE WESTERN DEMOCRATIC SECULAR, VERSUS ISLAMIC = LEGAL SHARIA.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-09-30 21:33|| 2014-09-30 21:33|| Front Page Top

#11 .#7 above is NOT my post.

We know. It's Jerkface - again. We'll deal with it.

Posted by Pappy 2014-09-30 23:42|| 2014-09-30 23:42|| Front Page Top

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