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2014-10-30 -Land of the Free

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Posted by Frozen Al 2014-10-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Pardon me for a moment while I reach for my tinfoil hat.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-30 03:42|| 2014-10-30 03:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Part-time, peace time, civilian Special OPS?
Like building a police SWAT team with Mall Cops.
Must have been a underutilized funding instrument available.

Posted by Skidmark 2014-10-30 09:15|| 2014-10-30 09:15|| Front Page Top

#3 With Emperor Zero is could be this type of commando

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2014-10-30 09:44|| 2014-10-30 09:44|| Front Page Top

#4 At the start of the Vietnam conflict the Green Berets had several teams in the Army Reserves (I had a former co-worker that was a junior enlisted member in the Boise Idaho Reserve unit). Don't know how that worked out for their readiness, it was when the Special Forces were the "bastard child" of the Army.

Posted by tipover 2014-10-30 11:15|| 2014-10-30 11:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Skid gets it. They've figured out a way to get to Goldwater-Nichols SOF money, which is separate from big army. Special Mission Units (SMU), JSOC, etc, are Tier-1 SOF. SF Groups are Teir-2. Very, very difficult to meet readiness objectives.... going to meetings once a month in a part-time transportation unit, let alone Tier-1 SOF. If it weren't so dangerous, it would be almost laughable.

I see 'Posse Comitatus Act' FOAD written all over this one, but that is just me.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-30 12:07|| 2014-10-30 12:07|| Front Page Top

#6 Well rodeo season is winding down and the clowns need work.....

Posted by USN, Ret. 2014-10-30 14:30|| 2014-10-30 14:30|| Front Page Top

#7 I know as of 1993, the Alabama National Guard had a Special Forces unit and I think there are some other state National Guards have Special Forces units as well.

Posted by Chantry 2014-10-30 19:20|| 2014-10-30 19:20|| Front Page Top

#8 5/19 SF Bn is 100% NG. Damn good unit. Co A is CA, Co B is CO, Co C is TX. Co D (Supt/MI), SWD (Special Warfare Trainign Det) and HHD (ODet Charlie) is Colorado too. I knew a lot of them. Every bit as capable - they were one of the first to deploy behind the Deltas/SEALs into N part of OEF and operate cross border from Uzibekistan.

Note well: National Guard does not mean its all part time on weekends and summers. There are permanent active billets in these units that are 24x7x365, full time for those in them.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-10-30 21:12|| 2014-10-30 21:12|| Front Page Top

#9 At #8, all Teir 2, not Teir 1. A bit like apples and oranges I'm afraid.

Very professional Utah National Guard racy Camp Williams calendar shoot at this link.

Have a nice evening.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-30 21:55|| 2014-10-30 21:55|| Front Page Top

#10 As I recall, the first units were volunteered by their command, which promptly got updated TO&E, for the entire command.

Posted by Skidmark 2014-10-30 22:07|| 2014-10-30 22:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Don't know about that Skid. But I do know that making it through A&S and the 'Q' course at Bragg does NOT automatically qualify one for assignment to a Special Mission Unit (SMU) operational squadron. A bit more to it than that.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-30 22:15|| 2014-10-30 22:15|| Front Page Top

#12 I should qualify #11 by saying successful completion of SFQC didn't used to automatically qualify one for assignment to a SMU. In today's political climate, I suppose anything could happen.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-30 22:24|| 2014-10-30 22:24|| Front Page Top

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