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2014-10-31 Down Under

Australia Outlaws Travel to Terror Hotspots

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Posted by trailing wife 2014-10-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Damn Kellys!

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-10-31 03:46|| 2014-10-31 03:46|| Front Page Top

#2 It would seem like outlawing travel FROM terror hotspots would be more appropriate.

Posted by Glenmore 2014-10-31 07:06|| 2014-10-31 07:06|| Front Page Top

#3 No more Qantas fights to Chicago and Detroit, then?

Posted by ed in texas 2014-10-31 09:19|| 2014-10-31 09:19|| Front Page Top

#4 this is NOT a good law. Same as the NSA Bill before it. These two laws have basically destroyed every freedom in Australia. There is nothing legally differentiating Australia's security forces now from say the KGB. I am not exaggerating.

They may not use them all the time. The problem is they now decide with no independent scrutiny when they will use them and on who - no warrants needed.

There is no protection for civilians. No protection for political dissidents.

Australia is now a place where a political candidate that ASIO doesn't like will soon have emails leaked to the press about them. They can hack everyone's computer whenever they want.

Under these new laws a "special intelligence operation" can be declared with only ASIO themselves needing to authorise it (the attorney general is also head of asio).

- anyone in an SIO can claim legal immunity when they intentionally break the law. Very few exceptions to this which are the big obvious: murder, serious property damage, sexual offence and torture. Everything else is OK to break the law.
- forcing courts to accept illegally obtained evidence
- 10 years' jail for anybody identifying anybody in ASIO. This means if you are a victim or a falsely accused person you cannot tell your lawyer. You cannot tell a court. A court cannot question or cross examine someone from asio - instead they offer now an "evidenciary certificate" that the court must accept.

NONE of this has anything to do with combating Islamist fascism.

The foreign fighters bill is the same.

They pretend it is about the Islamist fascists (who they won't even name, they still just say 'terrorist') but in reality they do nothing to stop the spread of that ideology here.

So now Australians that ASIO doesn't like (such as former Attorney General Bernard Collaery who acted legally in a case for East Timor against Australia) can be denied the freedom to leave the country at ASIO's whim because practically everywhere can be called a "declared area".

Posted by anon1 2014-10-31 11:00|| 2014-10-31 11:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Australian officials bribed the leaders of several large neighbouring countries including Indonesia and I think Malaysia plus a few more

Securency scandal

we were barred from reading about it. the court case was closed and none of it was reportable in the media here.

Australian Media and Communications Authority hires cops to trawl the internet and block URLs of websites "that are against the law". When asked they will only say that is 'child sex abuse material'

but it isn't. it's things the public has a right to know like our top bureaucrats bribing our neighbours corruptly to get deals

you cannot have a democracy unless there is actually a democracy

and people have to know what their government is doing or the system is not democratic

bipartisan support on every major issue means there is no longer a democracy in Australia

you cannot call this country democratic. we have left the field.

Posted by anon1 2014-10-31 11:07|| 2014-10-31 11:07|| Front Page Top

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