Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Thu 10/08/2015 View Wed 10/07/2015 View Tue 10/06/2015 View Mon 10/05/2015 View Sun 10/04/2015 View Sat 10/03/2015 View Fri 10/02/2015
1
2015-10-08 -Land of the Free
What no politician wants to admit about gun control
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by badanov 2015-10-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 Where does he fit in the Chicago statistics?
Posted by Bobby 2015-10-08 07:39||   2015-10-08 07:39|| Front Page Top

#2 One or two Lexington Commons in the 'gun grab' would be followed by numerous Concord Bridges and the whole rotten corrupt system would start to implode. Enough smart pols are still around who understand that.
Posted by P2Kontheroad 2015-10-08 07:52||   2015-10-08 07:52|| Front Page Top

#3 One variant on the possible gun control laws that I might be able to support is a requirement of a gun safety training certificate (available from a non-government source) as a condition for being able to purchase a (or many) firearm. ONE certificate, as many guns as desired, whenever desired - or none at all.
Posted by Glenmore 2015-10-08 08:29||   2015-10-08 08:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Glenmore, and make it available through an in-school firearms course like the old drivers ed. courses where you could get a permit on completion.
Posted by AlanC 2015-10-08 10:06||   2015-10-08 10:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Glenmore, the obvious cynical response to your comment is; are there any other constitutional ammendments you would consider a training requirement prior to excersing your right? The larger issue is the thrust of this article. Gun control advocates recognize the folly of their "incremental approach".
Posted by DepotGuy 2015-10-08 12:41||   2015-10-08 12:41|| Front Page Top

#6 European levels of gun violence? Europe is where they bring criminal charges against politicians like Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen for telling the truth. Britain won't allow Michael Savage into the country because they don't like his books. But they'll let an army of barbarians from the Middle East to overrun their towns and villages. Screw Europe.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-10-08 12:51||   2015-10-08 12:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Depot Guy - there are no other Constitutional rights that endanger others by the exercise thereof. As such, it seems a not-unreasonable concession. Now, if you link the training to specific times and guns you create a de facto gun registry, and that is unacceptable.
Posted by Glenmore 2015-10-08 13:04||   2015-10-08 13:04|| Front Page Top

#8 No and unnecessary.

All that would do is prevent a first time firearm purchaser with too much money from making an impulse purchase.

At the very base level, a person begins thinking about their first firearm when they have to start saving the money to purchase one. Usually they ask around about sizes and qualities with people they know who have experience, so the training is already beginning.

So for free, they have peers, the instruction book which comes with a firearm which goes point by point on how to not be stupid, countless books, and the entire internet.

Need to hear it go bang? There are ranges available if you don't have a buddy with the good land. Need instruction? Many ranges have instructors available if you can't find a private hire.

Hunter safety course is already in operation, as well as programs like Project Appleseed.
Posted by swksvolFF 2015-10-08 13:08||   2015-10-08 13:08|| Front Page Top

#9 Glenmore, I'm of the opinion that the first amendment is more powerful then 2nd and therefore when misused has a greater potential for harm then the second. I also don't disagree with those that suggest that the second amendment is neccessary to protect the former. With that said, I don't find it unreasonable when individual states require training (not a test) to obtain a CC permit.
Posted by DepotGuy 2015-10-08 14:00||   2015-10-08 14:00|| Front Page Top

#10 To get to UK levels, we'd need to reduce gun deaths by nearly 98 percent.

Yeah, the UK has reduced gun deaths by getting rid of guns. Now they have a problem with knife deaths. Go figure! Prolly some economics lesson about substitutable goods and services.
Posted by SteveS 2015-10-08 17:51||   2015-10-08 17:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Steve,
Yet the same cultural groups doing most of the violence!.

It's not the tool (a gun or knife or giraffe jaw), it's the ruinous inferior culture (which is enhanced by welfare state failure rewards).
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2015-10-08 18:41||   2015-10-08 18:41|| Front Page Top

23:50 trailing wife
23:42 anon1
23:41 trailing wife
23:40 anon1
23:37 anon1
23:32 anon1
23:28 anon1
23:27 anon1
23:02 Mullah Richard
22:56 anon1
22:53 abu bakar
22:52 abu bakar
22:46 anon1
22:46 trailing wife
22:36 anon1
22:35 Raj
22:28 Sven the pelter
22:27 Sven the pelter
22:24 anon1
22:16 Thing From Snowy Mountain
22:14 Mullah Richard
21:41 Glenmore
21:39 Glenmore
21:36 Glenmore









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com