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2015-12-13 Home Front: WoT

Separating violent and peaceful Islam: Spengler

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Posted by Steve White 2015-12-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Support the Caudillos in Dar by all means. Doesn't mean you should let any Muslims into USA---even "peaceful" Muslims are an economic burden (look at "Israeli" Arabs).

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-12-13 03:19|| 2015-12-13 03:19|| Front Page Top

#2 the key is to separate secular from theocratic islam

that is the split that counts

secular islam by definition wants religion a private matter, separate from the state.

it is thus no problem.

they will obey the laws passed by parliament and will not seek to impose islam on everyone else.

theocrats by definition will seek to impose Islam on everyone else

google maajid nawaz and read a bit of what he has to say

Posted by anon1 2015-12-13 05:52|| 2015-12-13 05:52|| Front Page Top

#3 a major problem is that peaceful secular moslims can become violent islamists

also two first generation muslims who are both peaceful and secular may have offspring who choose the violent islamist path

Posted by lord garth 2015-12-13 09:14|| 2015-12-13 09:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Only a reformation to upgrade this Islam to advance to the modern world. Never gonna happen.

Posted by Dale 2015-12-13 10:12|| 2015-12-13 10:12|| Front Page Top

#5 The true peaceful, secular Muslims, assuming there really are any, have to loudly and continually voice their condemnation of the jihad and confront those in their Muslim communities, publicly about all such issues.

They have to spell out chapter and verse, or sura, what is in the Koran and why all those violent passages do not apply to the modern world and point out often how Islam allows for a separation between Mosque and State. Until they do that then there is no proof that peaceful and secular exist with regards to Muslims.

Posted by AlanC 2015-12-13 10:28|| 2015-12-13 10:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Put violent Islam in one room, peaceful Islam in another.

One of those rooms will be empty; violence is as essential to Islam as Christ's sacrifice is to Christianity.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2015-12-13 11:00|| 2015-12-13 11:00|| Front Page Top

#7 It seems that we must teach moslems that causing your enemy death (By any means) is not going to get you to heaven

Posted by Redneck Jim 2015-12-13 12:34|| 2015-12-13 12:34|| Front Page Top

#8 secular islam by definition wants religion a private matter, separate from the state.

The only problem with that lovely thought is that Islam itself does not make that distinction between state and religions matters that Western Civ does. Everything comes under Sharia law.

IMHO, the separation of Church and State is one of the more clever bits in the US Constitution.

Posted by SteveS 2015-12-13 15:13|| 2015-12-13 15:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Make Muslim women read Lysistrata.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2015-12-13 18:33|| 2015-12-13 18:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Dunno if that'd work though. After all, there will always be goats.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2015-12-13 18:48|| 2015-12-13 18:48|| Front Page Top

#11 God will sort them out.

Posted by JohnQC 2015-12-13 19:35|| 2015-12-13 19:35|| Front Page Top

#12 Lysistrata... there will always be goats

Will Muslimahs heed Lysistrata,
Declaring their Muslims non grata?
For bestowing wild oats,
There will always be goats
And ~~boys~~ kids who will sadly bleat, "Dada!"

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2015-12-13 19:35|| 2015-12-13 19:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Secular and theocratic Islam are only a matter of timing and numbers. According to the Koran they should get along while they are in a weak position and assert themselves when the opportunity finally presents itself. Worldwide they have sensed weakness and are asserting left and right.

Posted by rjschwarz 2015-12-13 20:35|| 2015-12-13 20:35|| Front Page Top

#14 Separating fly sh!t from pepper would be easier

Posted by USN, Ret. 2015-12-13 22:26|| 2015-12-13 22:26|| Front Page Top

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