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2016-01-17 Government

Klingon Spokesman Slams '13 Hours' as 'Distortion' of Benghazi Events

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-01-17 11:56|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 and these two have no incentive to lie? Riiigghht

Posted by Frank G 2016-01-17 12:07|| 2016-01-17 12:07|| Front Page Top

#2 "distortion of the events..."

The basic events are:

1- Troops in contact.
2- Help available.
3- Help not sent.
4- Troops die.
5- CIC attends fundraiser.

Where's the distortion?

Posted by Matt 2016-01-17 12:33|| 2016-01-17 12:33|| Front Page Top

#3 The CIA chief actually confirmed the story given in the movie. He says that he did not "second guess that the team would not be allowed to depart".
This does not mean that he did not tell them to wait or to stand down.
He said also that he spent twenty minutes trying to enlist local support. This is consistent with the claim of the contractors that they waited for twenty minutes, and even that he once said "stand down" or "leave me alone" while he was frustrated at failing to get response from outside locals.
He is saying only that his motives for his delaying actions were pure; he was concerned that if he succeeded in getting outside help, the contractors might come into conflict with the helpers, and cause casualties that might be blamed on him.
Of course he should have been consulting his superiors to get outside US support which apparently was overhead.
Someone somewhere decided that the military should not intervene.
My belief is this was based on the foolish state department fear that only state department personnel were protected by treaty from prosecution for injury to Libyans.
Often what appear to be callous and foolish decisions are based on preoccupation of the decision makers with nonsensical distractions.
That is the very nature of incompetence.

Posted by Grins Snese4215 2016-01-17 12:52|| 2016-01-17 12:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Someone somewhere decided that the military should not intervene.

There is only one person authorized to make such a decision.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-01-17 12:54|| 2016-01-17 12:54|| Front Page Top

#5 There is only one person authorized to make such a decision.

IIRC, on that fatefull night POTUS handed the keys to SECDEF and retired to the west wing. With a clandestine Klingon shop and an under the radar State "consulate" setting up an arms conduit it's not surprising uncle Leon was squeemish about sending in the calvery.

Posted by DepotGuy 2016-01-17 14:40|| 2016-01-17 14:40|| Front Page Top

#6 But all of Michael Movies are absolutely true...

Posted by CrazyFool 2016-01-17 16:51|| 2016-01-17 16:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Michael Moore...

Posted by CrazyFool 2016-01-17 16:54|| 2016-01-17 16:54|| Front Page Top

#8 '13 Hours' bad, 'Zero Dark Thirty' good?

Posted by Pappy 2016-01-17 17:24|| 2016-01-17 17:24|| Front Page Top

#9 If I were Bob I would be upset about all the bad press. As someone who is not Bob, I take issue with him. In the book he comes across as a real ass. His public statements are only reinforcing that impression.

Posted by Iblis 2016-01-17 17:51|| 2016-01-17 17:51|| Front Page Top

#10 And we ALL take the CIA at their word these days. They would never ever go into butt covering mode.

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