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SPENGLER: The Resistible Rise of Donald Trump

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-01-26 11:02|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 What utter bullshit. I wish those who pretend to be on "our" side would spend their time and effort on attacking Hillary and Bernie.

Posted by Crusader 2016-01-26 11:41|| 2016-01-26 11:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Really another Hitler comparison. Never rabble rousers like Thomas Paine or Patrick Henry?

Donald Trump has tapped an ugly mood in America's middle class

Well, one, there seems to be a lot of blue collar working class Reagan Donks at those speeches not just white collar middle class.

Two, if you've been lied to time and time again, you get a bit agitated. That's the problem of the liars not those lied to.

As for authoritarians, we've had one for seven years ignoring the law and the Constitution. A little late now to be concerned with niceties. It was the Left that decided it was all about power. You either play their game or lose.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-01-26 11:42|| 2016-01-26 11:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Robert Reich's rebuttal at the end of the article is the best argument I've to vote for Ted Cruz.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2016-01-26 12:26|| 2016-01-26 12:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Again with the NAZI thing. Never mind that Trump is not a socialist. If he doesn't subscribe to progressive dogma he must be the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-26 12:49|| 2016-01-26 12:49|| Front Page Top

#5 And, of course, if he wants to secure our borders he must be a racist.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-26 13:01|| 2016-01-26 13:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Spengler, this an embarrassing misreading of what Trump has said. He is not making an economic argument about illegal immigration, he is focused on the violent crime they bring.

Comparisons with Hitler are the refuge of the most simple minded hack. Apparently it does not go without saying that there is a difference between "let's enforce our borders" and "let's kill six million citizens."

Posted by regular joe 2016-01-26 13:04|| 2016-01-26 13:04|| Front Page Top

#7 Falwell Jr endorses Trump for US president

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-01-26 13:31|| 2016-01-26 13:31|| Front Page Top

#8 And it's Arturo Ui, not Alfonso.

Posted by Grunter 2016-01-26 13:31|| 2016-01-26 13:31|| Front Page Top

#9 I went to the article to see what Robert Reich said, and Frozen Al is spot on target - "Robert Reich's rebuttal at the end of the article is the best argument I've [seen/heard]to vote for Ted Cruz."

What's not to like about Ted?

Posted by Bobby 2016-01-26 13:35|| 2016-01-26 13:35|| Front Page Top

#10 Donald Trump has tapped an ugly mood in America's middle class, whose prospects have dimmed noticeably since the 2008 financial crisis.

So, nothing else happened in 2008 that contributed to this situation?

And Reich's comments about Cruz... come up a little short.

Posted by Raj 2016-01-26 13:39|| 2016-01-26 13:39|| Front Page Top

#11 The donk's MO is to demonize opponents. Why am I not surprised that Trump is being demonized. Hilter? Please.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-01-26 13:44|| 2016-01-26 13:44|| Front Page Top

#12 Interesting that the Establishment GOP would rather betray everything they pretend to stand for then put the graft on hold for 4 to 8 years while the country gets itself back into shape.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-01-26 13:50|| 2016-01-26 13:50|| Front Page Top

#13 Isn't it?

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-01-26 13:53|| 2016-01-26 13:53|| Front Page Top

#14 It really does read as if Robert Reich is pro Cruz. Laughably so. Cruz is smarter, stands for something, and believes in things most Republicans believe in.

Reich doesn't mention that Cruz is a Constitutionalist who knows what he can and can't change so he's unlikely to executive order Gay Marriage out of existence. A little Presidential restraint and return to the Constitution and balance of powers is something we all could use about now.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-01-26 13:54|| 2016-01-26 13:54|| Front Page Top

#15 The trouble with Trump, aside from the silliness of some of his statements, is that he seems to be closer in his ideas to Obama than to the Republican party, and seems also to be totally full of himself and his own ideas. The establishment press lionizes him almost every day and ignores all the other Republican candidates.
I constantly see from commentors an apparent hatred of Republicans who are said to betray and be worse than Democrats.
Actually, the country did well under Republicans, and what has been failing is the lack of success of the Democrats, who have had power for 9 years (the last two years under Bush the dems controlled Congress, and Bush refused to veto.) When opposed by congress recently Obama has acted (unconsitutionally) on his own. And the dems when in power gave unelected government agencies the right to legislate against the interests of society with no constraints other than from the Supreme Court.
Even at present with 56 Republican Senators it takes 60 to bring a bill forward in the Senate.
This has made Congress almost powerless to oppose the President.
Yet commentators blame the Republicans for the awful policies and malaise concocted by the Democrats.
The establishment in Washington are the Democrats and the Press; the Republicans have little or no part in it.
Cruz and his supporters seem to see Republicans as their enemies. This is crazy. If he cannot convince those who are close to him in politics of the value of his approach, how will he convince those who are further away? Many Democrats in the Establishment now fear jail time if the Republicans win as a result of the extravagance of their own antics when in power. They will do anything to win this election.
A candidate who can unite the Republican party and Conservatives and Libertarians is essential for the restoration of this Country.
Neither Trump nor Cruz is it. Maybe Rubio is the one to do it.
Maybe Cruz could do it, if he mended his relations to his party. The Republicans should be the party of all those interested in limiting government power, and making government employees accountable for their misdeeds, and all those who favor a strong military and a realistic foreign policy, not one built on dreams.

Posted by Grins Snese4215 2016-01-26 14:42|| 2016-01-26 14:42|| Front Page Top

#16 Spengler is often brilliant. Last year he wrote an article demonizing anyone who displayed a Confederate flag. He implied, in no uncertain terms, that any American who did so was equally as despicable as as someone defending the holocaust. I don't believe he understands or likes Americans as they are. Like Obama, he imputes evil to those with whom he disagrees.

Posted by Sgt.D.T. 2016-01-26 14:50|| 2016-01-26 14:50|| Front Page Top

#17 Trump is a shit stirring megalomaniac .. Seems an ideal choice for POTUS, I'm mean you only need to look to the Chump to see what credentials are needed to get into the white house

Posted by MacNails jnr 2016-01-26 15:00|| 2016-01-26 15:00|| Front Page Top

#18 Spengler, of all people, is unfamiliar with Godwin's Law? Sad.

Posted by JHH 2016-01-26 15:00|| 2016-01-26 15:00|| Front Page Top

#19 Trump and Chump , lol ... Sorry

Posted by MacNails jnr 2016-01-26 15:01|| 2016-01-26 15:01|| Front Page Top

#20 Even at present with 56 Republican Senators it takes 60 to bring a bill forward in the Senate.This has made Congress almost powerless to oppose the President.

Wrong.

They can't override a veto but there is a whole helluva lot they could do and there is a whole lot more they could refuse to do. Passing the latest budget is a prime example. They have a duty to resist the bankruptcy of our country but instead they acquiesced. Everything Obama wants, he gets. Everything. It's like there is no Congress, no opposition party, only a rubber stamp for the Emperor.

And before Obama, Bush wasn't much better. He did nothing about illegal immigration, he let the debt get out of control and he pretended not to see the looming mortgage meltdown.

If you're not angry, you haven't been paying attention.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-01-26 15:10|| 2016-01-26 15:10|| Front Page Top

#21 I don't think Trump is a nazi or nonantisemitic fascist. (or a prosemitic fascist).

I also don't think he's the guy who's gonna fix the mess we're in.

I don't think the hyperbole helps the situation.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-26 16:11|| 2016-01-26 16:11|| Front Page Top

#22 Not in support anybody but this was commonly said about Reagan:

Posted by 3dc 2016-01-26 16:11|| 2016-01-26 16:11|| Front Page Top

#23 Spengler is at his best when he discusses foreign policy.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-01-26 16:29|| 2016-01-26 16:29|| Front Page Top

#24 I just want a leader who likes his/her country, seems like a lot to ask these days from the US, Canada and EU.

Posted by regular joe 2016-01-26 16:31|| 2016-01-26 16:31|| Front Page Top

#25 For Trump, rhetoric is a negotiating technique. It is geared towards shaping the battlefield. The downside is that it is difficult to intuit Donald's interests given his positions. Also, Donald counterpunches using ad hominem attacks. It is a sign of weakness because it means you can't win the argument on its merits.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-01-26 16:46|| 2016-01-26 16:46|| Front Page Top

#26 Yah, but it's a good tactic for poaching supporters from the Camacho for President campaign.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-01-26 17:19|| 2016-01-26 17:19|| Front Page Top

#27 Trump in '16 = Schwarzenegger in '03. An outsider promising to clean up government with some obvious and long overdue reforms. Schwarzenegger even gave it a real effort - for the first few months. Then he cut deals and basically became exactly what he had run against in the first place.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Posted by Iblis 2016-01-26 17:42|| 2016-01-26 17:42|| Front Page Top

#28 I always figure Trump running to protect the viability of his assets. Esp. the gambling ones. If the nation's currency is worthless and it's people cash poor there is nothing useful to be skimmed by gambling. So.. unless he can physically move his halls elsewhere and they culturally fit he's screwed.

It's in his interest to have a nation worth skimming.

Posted by 3dc 2016-01-26 18:11|| 2016-01-26 18:11|| Front Page Top

#29 It is a sign of weakness because it means you can't win the argument on its merits.

Seems to have worked for the Left for a couple of decades. When was the last time they asked the urban community to look in the mirror for the cause of their problems rather than blame the 'man' or institutionalized bias? (See - white privilege)

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-01-26 18:51|| 2016-01-26 18:51|| Front Page Top

#30 P2k, turnabout is fair play eh? OK, I'll buy that.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-01-26 20:15|| 2016-01-26 20:15|| Front Page Top

#31 Sgt.D.T. I think you have Spengler read all wrong.

"... he imputes evil to those with whom he disagrees"

No, he disagrees with those who he believes are evil.

Spengler is one hard ass dude, who believes what he says. So, for him to drop the bomb on Trump is altogether the correct thing for him. And I expect nothing less from Spengler. That is why he is magnificent. If he writes, he delivers.

Spengler paints in black and white, with a few accents in blood. See what he portrays and discuss with yourself, and us, why you agree or not.

Posted by Elmavigum Lumplump4030 2016-01-26 21:39|| 2016-01-26 21:39|| Front Page Top

#32 Dammit, I forgot to change the auto-name of Elmavigum Lumplump4030 to my own.

Posted by rammer 2016-01-26 21:43|| 2016-01-26 21:43|| Front Page Top

#33 Spengler views the American middle class with disdain. They don't want 'facts and statistics" they want a ruthless leader who picks scapegoats to appease them. "They want a nasty president". This middle class is too stupid to listen to his opinions and act in accord with his high standards. After all the electorate is different than he remembers it. He says the parallels to 1920's Germany aren't the same, but follows by saying "the Republican Establishment shouts from the rooftops it prefers Hitler/Trump to Cruz". Therefore he believes they evil. They are not. I have fought beside southerners who didn't like blacks or Yankees like me. They weren't evil. They fought and died in great percentages. I don't know if Spengler for America in the wars of the 20th century but I believe he is wrong to place the middle class before his literary firing squad. He does"t know them.

Posted by Sgt.D.T. 2016-01-26 22:36|| 2016-01-26 22:36|| Front Page Top

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