Article

2016-03-01 -Land of the Free

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by badanov 2016-03-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Who the f*ck is this psychotherapist in Nashville? What an insulting commentary. Does she actually expect a dialogue with this type of insults?
Perhaps she is the one who requires therapy.

Posted by jvalentour 2016-03-01 00:36|| 2016-03-01 00:36|| Front Page Top

#2 Now I sound like Newc.

Posted by jvalentour 2016-03-01 00:37|| 2016-03-01 00:37|| Front Page Top

#3 She is definitely not yer typical Tennessean. Most everyone I know here is a gun owner. Many carry. Last I looked about 1 in 10 adults have a carry permit. If she knew this I wonder if she would ever leave her house?

Posted by BrerRabbit 2016-03-01 04:29|| 2016-03-01 04:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Back in the day of the musket, the average gun owner had a piece roughly equivalent to the standard Infantry weapon of the time.
Today,an AK or AR15 or some variant of these...is roughly equivalent to the standard Infantry weapon of the time (the present).

Posted by Richard Aubrey 2016-03-01 07:01|| 2016-03-01 07:01|| Front Page Top

#5 Sadly, there are a lot of these non-thinking train wrecks running around loose in Tennessee. Not enough to form a critical mass, but their numbers are increasing. This one is probably a refugee from the "workers paradise" of the liberal northeast.

Posted by Nguard 2016-03-01 07:39|| 2016-03-01 07:39|| Front Page Top

#6 This one is probably a refugee from the "workers paradise" of the liberal northeast.
Posted by Nguard

Not all have found refuge in Tennessee. A great many have moved further south to Georgia.

Lacking simple courtesies, they're easy to spot. Rather than use the car park, they park their BMW's along side red painted curbs blocking sidewalk entrances as they pick up their dry cleaning. Knowing they are really not welcome, most speak in low tones, not wishing to give away their refugee dialect.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-03-01 07:57|| 2016-03-01 07:57|| Front Page Top

#7 It may be a constitutional right to bear arms, but the Constitution said we have the right to bear arms in a militia, those arms being muskets at the time, guns that you could shoot once, taking much time to reload. Not AK-47 weapons.

For your education which you do not want (you just want our guns) -

10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1)
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Please note - when talking about musket loaders
1 - they were the same standard arms of the small standing federal army. The militia formation was to assemble right on the flanks of the literally standing army in the field armed with the same functional weapon. They would do that in 1812 and 1861. The regular army traded in the musket or variation thereof in the late 19th Century. The militia needed to upgrade as well.

2 - At the same time as the newly minted musket armed militia, neither were there any 'Press' institutions, just the technology for the free flow of information. So, taking your logic, I want to grab all those modern institutions and organizations concerned with 'news'. Let's get back to when someone had to hand press the paper at night to sell those pieces of paper in the morning. No big conglomerates to manipulate the financial books to cover propaganda that masquerades as 'news'. Either your word sells on its own or it dies literally in the market place of ideas. So how about some principles rather than just power cause you wanna to impose your gun grabbing agenda. You get the guns and we get your lying Big Brother propaganda machine.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-03-01 08:11|| 2016-03-01 08:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Go home vermin and tell your masters that we will not be enslaved by the likes of them or you. Tell them you should be beaten for speaking to your betters.

An armed person is a citizen, everyone else is a slave.

Posted by Silentbrick 2016-03-01 09:03|| 2016-03-01 09:03|| Front Page Top

#9 Does not matter. Once Hillary appoints 3 justices, the second amendment is done, it will be "reinterpreted."

Trump has consequences.

Posted by Jack Tojo6075 2016-03-01 09:23|| 2016-03-01 09:23|| Front Page Top

#10 You think 3 million guns are going to be collected? By whom? You've gutted the armed forces. They barely held on in Iraq and Afghanistan till the locals decided to cooperate. The national guard and sheriffs are composed of "We the People". They'll be lucky to hold their own just in the established gun free urban areas (not including the hoods where they already fear to tread).

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-03-01 09:40|| 2016-03-01 09:40|| Front Page Top

#11 And they'll have fun with no power, blockades preventing food, water systems cut off.

Posted by Silentbrick 2016-03-01 09:44|| 2016-03-01 09:44|| Front Page Top

#12 Please note - when talking about musket loaders
1 - they were the same standard arms of the small standing federal army.

And the British army at the time. There were also individuals and units who armed themselves with the state of the art, American-made long rifles. These long rifles, though slower to reload than muskets -- and remember that the machine gun at the time was a three-line musket unit where each line shot, dropped back to reload, then stepped forward to shoot again (yes, I know you know, but the metaphor just occurred to me) -- were unthinkably precise at the impossible distance of 300 yards, enabling the Americans to reach out and kill British officers without British troops being able to shoot back.

So there was an expectation that some of the volunteer militia units would be snipers carrying their own guns. Incidentally, I found Chris Kyle's book on the subject very informative.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-03-01 09:56|| 2016-03-01 09:56|| Front Page Top

#13 Proco, they have gutted the armed forces but they have created large paramilitary forces attached to all the Federal agencies.

Posted by Glenmore 2016-03-01 09:57|| 2016-03-01 09:57|| Front Page Top

#14 All I know is, if a supposed psychotherapist talked to me in this manner, they would be tasting my boot through their rectum.

Posted by DarthVader 2016-03-01 10:25|| 2016-03-01 10:25|| Front Page Top

#15 "Please note - when talking about musket loaders...". P2K, I agree with you. But just one thing, you probably meant 'muzzle loaders', not 'musket loaders'. I presume this, and write in case you wish to or are able to correct that. Maybe a kind mod? Bugs me at the same level as clips and magazines; both exist, but are often mis-used/mis-applied. Small minded of me, but I apologize, and can't fix it.
Darth; strongly agree.
A question; how many guns ARE there in the USA? I am guesstimating / SWAGing 400 million plus. I haven't found any good numbers for 2014 and 2015, and so extrapolated from 2013 data, which is suspect in and of itself in any event. I could be WAAAY low, and hope so. Your estimate may vary.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2016-03-01 11:31|| 2016-03-01 11:31|| Front Page Top

#16 Mea culpa...yep, the coffee hadn't kicked in yet this morning. Muzzle loaders, less Ferguson's breach loader. (Ferguson would 'buy the farm' at King's Mountain)

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-03-01 11:43|| 2016-03-01 11:43|| Front Page Top

#17 C'mon, you guys. Take it easy on her. She lives in a bubble where she is fed a steady diet of the New York Times and CNN. She's never been off the pavement. She drives her Volvo between her nice little suburban home and her nice little cushy job in academia. She's probably a very nice lady but she has never faced any kind of a challenge where she had to respond physically. She's never had a real man challenge her intellectually or in any other way. There just isn't much that you can expect from her.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-03-01 11:46|| 2016-03-01 11:46|| Front Page Top

#18 Why these weapons? Are you waiting for a once-rare-but-now-more-frequent mass shooting or another shooting so you can save the day, planning to kill the “bad" guys? How many times might you have that opportunity in life? One can always hope, I suppose.

Dear Sunshine. You're probably not old enough to remember the LA Riots though you're aware of the Baltimore and others recently. Here's an example why you got to be prepared just like for earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes. When government fails, the militia in one form or another is there. Those 'Korean' store owners weren't looted.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-03-01 11:51|| 2016-03-01 11:51|| Front Page Top

#19 It isn't a question or lecture, it is an application.

David Hackett Fischer's books Paul Revere's Ride and Washington's Crossing are excellent sources of who and what was expected of the Militia, and how their kit different regionally.

Able bodied men were expected to be in the militia, and to arm and equip themselves.

Private individuals and organizations equipped themselves with cannons.

Benjamin Franklin was able to square the circle in Quaker Pennsylvania to allow a militia to form.

There is a story about how a captured frontiersman would entertain the British by shooting coins at 200 yards.

Tiny Children *snort* come up with that one within two glasses of whine? And yes, I am a bit disappoint with certain aspects of my body, such as I cannot shoot lightning from my eyes and fireballs from my arse.

"How come you people arming against mass shootings and acts of bad guys are so dangerous?"

Wow. One would think a qualified psychotherapist would have a better grasp of their own thought processes. This op/ed is dribble.

Posted by swksvolFF 2016-03-01 12:15|| 2016-03-01 12:15|| Front Page Top

#20 An,er, "interesting" screed, but mostly due to the ignorance shown by the author, who, presumably, prescribes psychotropics (i.e. Ritalin) to teenagers which were, also interestingly, not mentioned.

When I was a kid, it was not unusual to see a teen carrying a cased .22 on a public bus. But that was pre-video games and the now not uncommon FUBAR of the family.

Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-03-01 12:49|| 2016-03-01 12:49|| Front Page Top

#21 I Pray everyone get's there one day, jvalentour

Posted by newc 2016-03-01 13:19|| 2016-03-01 13:19|| Front Page Top

23:49 JosephMendiola
23:43 CrazyFool
23:18 JosephMendiola
23:17 KBK
23:13 JosephMendiola
23:09 JosephMendiola
22:39 Iblis
22:29 Canuckistan sniper
21:17 Chantry
21:14 Glenmore
21:13 Glenmore
21:12 Glenmore
20:43 Blossom Unains5562
20:37 Blossom Unains5562
20:26 Frank G
20:23 JosephMendiola
20:17 JosephMendiola
20:15 JosephMendiola
20:15 Procopius2k
20:02 USN, Ret.
19:42 Frank G
19:39 Frank G
19:35 Besoeker
19:13 Frank G