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2016-04-25 Home Front: Politix
Charles Koch jumps shark, Compares Donald Trump To A Nazi
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Posted by Besoeker 2016-04-25 03:50|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 ....he has a real problem with Trump’s support of using a database to track Muslims in the country.

A helpful DoJ DB already exists. A simple MOD to the existing SW contract and the addition of a Counterterrorism category appears to be all that is needed.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-04-25 04:07||   2016-04-25 04:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Personally, I'm in favor of implanting every Muslim in the world with a device monitoring noradrenaline level in their blood. Once the level passes a predetermined threshold, the device induces an artificial epileptic fit.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-04-25 05:08||   2016-04-25 05:08|| Front Page Top

#3 You don't think someone these days has databases on all sorts of categories of people? If you do, you live in a fantasy land. You've been sliced and diced by data mining for all sorts of political and commercial IT outfits.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-04-25 07:34||   2016-04-25 07:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Our self-identified "betters" get stupider all the time...
Posted by M. Murcek 2016-04-25 07:47||   2016-04-25 07:47|| Front Page Top

#5 The muffin Koch
Posted by 3dc 2016-04-25 08:04||   2016-04-25 08:04|| Front Page Top

#6 First rule of Wall Street: Never trust a billionaire.
Posted by Phairt Barnsmell9169 2016-04-25 09:58||   2016-04-25 09:58|| Front Page Top

#7 Trump has refused numerous opportunities to clarify his position such as to include national origin or specific political ideology. Make no mistake. Trump's proposals are based solely on religious affilliation. Guess what - that is reminiscent of Nazi Germany.
Posted by DepotGuy 2016-04-25 10:42||   2016-04-25 10:42|| Front Page Top

#8 The Koches are libertarians, not Republicans or Conservatives.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-04-25 10:54||   2016-04-25 10:54|| Front Page Top

#9 Trump's proposals are based solely on religious affilliation.

DG, replace "religion" with "ideology" and Trump's position is as American as an apple-pie.

Guess what - that is reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

Bullshit. The Nazis were perfectly happy killing secular Jews, or convert Jews. Anybody claiming otherwise is both stupid/ignorant and/or dishonest.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-04-25 11:14||   2016-04-25 11:14|| Front Page Top

#10 So... somehow making a government sponsored watch list of people based on Ideology aka Personal Belief, or rather your personal thought on a matter(Islam), is somehow acceptable? I remember when Rantburg was all up in arms about Militia's getting put on onto Terror-lists for being Pro Second-amendment.

And make no mistake, I am against Islam as a vast (Oh so VAST) majority of it's adherents practice it. But this opens the door to official lists of, say, Christians. Or Atheists. Or "Warming Deniers". It's all an ideology socialists could argue. And with the courts how they are, I'd rather not risk that.
Posted by Charles 2016-04-25 11:33||   2016-04-25 11:33|| Front Page Top

#11 DG, replace "religion" with "ideology" and Trump's position is American as an apple-pie.

Ahhh, very convenient. But Trump's proposal is for "ALL Muslims". Again, even when given the chance, Trump didn't qualify his comments to distinguish between religion and ideolgy. But I suspect should Trump get the nomination his supporters will blindly give him a mulligan as he embarks on his "C'mon, You know what I meant" tour to explain away his foolish comments. And BTW, Koch's comparison wasn't between Travel bans and Death camps. It's about goverments restricting the populace (at any level) based solely on religion.
Posted by DepotGuy 2016-04-25 12:08||   2016-04-25 12:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Charles, my boy, such lists as you've described already exist under your pro-Islamic government.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-04-25 12:59||   2016-04-25 12:59|| Front Page Top

#13 But Trump's proposal is for "ALL Muslims"./em>

Yes, they all share Muslim ideology.

It's about gover[n]ments restricting the populace (at any level) based solely on religion.

(a) Would it really hurt you DepotGuy, to spell check your posts---you just ask your browser to do it?
(b) Sovereign governments have not just a right, but an obligation toward their subjects/citizens to restrict such access.
(c) You mean like Saudis not letting Christians in?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-04-25 13:06||   2016-04-25 13:06|| Front Page Top

#14 (a) Would it really hurt you DepotGuy, to spell check your posts

When Burgers, regrettably sloppy,
Make errors, g(r)omgoru gets stroppy,
So hold your discussion
In criminal Russian
(Or maybe he'll edit your copy)!
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2016-04-25 13:44||   2016-04-25 13:44|| Front Page Top

#15 One thing Koch has learned from the NAZIs is the Big Lie. You get everyone you can to keep repeating over and over again through every available media outlet that Donald Trump is a NAZI and people start believing it. It is, of course, a damn lie. It's also intellectual laziness. Koch doesn't bother with logical arguments, he just says NAZI and he thinks that covers it. Lazy and deceitful.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2016-04-25 14:10||   2016-04-25 14:10|| Front Page Top

#16 The media has just been waiting for the results of the primary before using the Nazi card.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-04-25 15:15||   2016-04-25 15:15|| Front Page Top

#17 The Koches are libertarians, not Republicans or Conservatives.

A distinction that is lost upon the mainstream media.

And most of the commenters here at Rantburg, so it would seem.
Posted by Pappy 2016-04-25 17:26||   2016-04-25 17:26|| Front Page Top

#18 Harry Reid lied, cried, bashed and pontificated about the Koch brothers yet not once did they called him a Nazi.
Posted by Airandee 2016-04-25 19:39||   2016-04-25 19:39|| Front Page Top

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