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2016-06-02 Science & Technology

Bezos thinks we need to build industrial zones in space in order to save Earth

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Posted by Fred 2016-06-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 We need both Industrial Zones + Colonies, etc. aka Space Markets, in order to help justify space travel, i.e. routine Exploration + Colonization. NO USE TO BUILD FLYING CARS + SPACE PLANES, ETC. WID NO MISSION, NO PURPOSE, NO ONE + NO WHERE IN SPACE TO GO.

"IFF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME", CORRECT!?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2016-06-02 01:58|| 2016-06-02 01:58|| Front Page Top

#2 Well, yes. Apply 3% annual growth (and hence energy consumption) starting from our current 12 and bit TW, and see how long it takes before we're using the equivalent of all the solar energy that hits the planet... about 325 years. If we do whatever we do earthside, all that waste heat has to go somewhere, unless we've found a way to repeal the laws of thermodynamics.
Of course if we are doing 15,000 times as much stuff in the 2340s, well, I don't know where I'm going to put it. My spare room is already full.

Posted by Bugs Poodle8604 2016-06-02 06:24|| 2016-06-02 06:24|| Front Page Top

#3 But, where's the graft in this?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-06-02 06:53|| 2016-06-02 06:53|| Front Page Top

#4 all that waste heat has to go somewhere

It goes out to space as it has done for 5 billion years.

Posted by phil_b 2016-06-02 07:54|| 2016-06-02 07:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Wait till you see the licencing regulations, g(r)om, and you won't have to ask.

And since space can't be nationalized they'll all be run by the UN.

Posted by AlanC 2016-06-02 07:55|| 2016-06-02 07:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Yes, AC, I can just imagine UN commissioner for Space; Kofico Harongo Mephagerongo; laying the the law down on Putin or Putin's successors, or the Chinese, or (assuming the second American revolution succeeds) USA.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-06-02 08:12|| 2016-06-02 08:12|| Front Page Top

#7 It's not really relevant that it goes into space. Sure it does, but we reach a new thermal equilibrium. To pick some round numbers, if in the year 2400, after 384 years of ~3% growth, we're somehow using 1,000,00 TW then this is the equivalent of 6 times current solar insolation - even if the entire planet is encased in solar panels, we'd still be generating the equivalent of another 5 suns beating down on us with our fusion reactors or whatever. The average surface temperature of the planet would be about 155 Celsius.

Posted by Bugs Poodle8604 2016-06-02 08:16|| 2016-06-02 08:16|| Front Page Top

#8 typoed a zero there by accident 1,000,000 TW. 1000 PW.

Posted by Bugs Poodle8604 2016-06-02 08:18|| 2016-06-02 08:18|| Front Page Top

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