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2016-06-16 Home Front: Politix
Terror watch list takes center stage among gun-control proposals
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Posted by Fred 2016-06-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 I have a big problem with this whole 'watch list' concept. Not with the list itself, but with the lack of any process to appeal - or in many cases to even find out that you are on it and that it is why you can't get on the plane.
Posted by Glenmore 2016-06-16 07:32||   2016-06-16 07:32|| Front Page Top

#2 NO! It would be too easy for the Executive Branch to develop an "enemies list" and put whomever he/she wanted on the list. There goes your 2nd Amendment rights.
Posted by JohnQC 2016-06-16 07:32||   2016-06-16 07:32|| Front Page Top

#3 #2 - THIS is exactly right
Posted by Frank G 2016-06-16 08:52||   2016-06-16 08:52|| Front Page Top

#4 The elimination of all due process is the brass ring here.
Posted by M. Murcek 2016-06-16 10:04||   2016-06-16 10:04|| Front Page Top

#5 re: #2....

That's HELL NO, John.

Instant gun control, since there's no process for getting on or off the list; they can put everyone that has ever had or wants a background check on the list.
Hey presto, you can't buy a gun.

The evil minions of the left are experts in Catch-22.
Posted by AlanC 2016-06-16 10:58||   2016-06-16 10:58|| Front Page Top

#6 If someone is a "known terrorist" he or she should be either dead or in jail. If someone is a suspected terrorist keep an eye on them either until you have enough evidence to charge them with a crime or until you are satisfied they are not a threat. That's kinda simple, isn't it?

Oh, and if you don't have enough agents to keep an eye on all the terrorists that Baraq let's into the country from places like Afghanistan, Pakistan and Chechnya then tell fucking Baraq to stop letting those people into the country.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-06-16 12:51||   2016-06-16 12:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Nevermind that this wouldn't do a single thing to actually solve the problem of terrorist attacks like Pulse.

These are secret lists. There is no criteria for getting on the list and not process for getting off the list.

Lois Lerner can simply place all the conservative organization members (and posters to Rantburg) on the list. After all this administration considers conservatives just as dangerious as actual Islamic terrorist.

Someone once told me that when the left gets the presidency they will do every single thing they accused the Bush administration of doing. How true.
Posted by CrazyFool 2016-06-16 15:53||   2016-06-16 15:53|| Front Page Top

#8 So Trump's on board with the idea. But not to worry. He said he was a "huge second amendment guy". Huuugge...I tells ya.
Posted by DepotGuy 2016-06-16 16:45||   2016-06-16 16:45|| Front Page Top

#9 Trump needs a 'win' with the NRA for political reasons. Let them work out some sort of deal and get it before the Congress. It could be something as innocent as an amended 4473 (background check), or local law enforcement approval as is done with sound suppressors. Let's see what they come up with.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-06-16 16:51||   2016-06-16 16:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Besoeker...WADR Bullshit.. As a reminder, Trump at one time said he supported a ban on "assault weapons ". Then with no explanation of a pivot point - wasn't. So excuse those of us that are skeptical of a man whose proven not to have any true foundations other than to his personal advancement. Mr.Trump and President Obama are making Orlando into a gun control issue. Fucks him.
Posted by DepotGuy 2016-06-16 18:52||   2016-06-16 18:52|| Front Page Top

#11 You can be as skeptical as you want, but if any of you are deluded enough to think things will get *better* under Hillary, God help you.
Posted by Crusader 2016-06-16 23:21||   2016-06-16 23:21|| Front Page Top

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