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2016-08-02 Science

Israel Develops a Highly Protected APC to Replace Thousands of M-113 ~~POS~~ 'Tin Cans'

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Posted by gorb 2016-08-02 14:42|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 BTW, Pentagon Wars is available for free on YouTube.

Posted by gorb 2016-08-02 15:29|| 2016-08-02 15:29|| Front Page Top

#2 The M-113 is not armored. I should know.

An AP round from a M2 or a 0.51 soviet heavy machine gun doesn't even slow down to admire its work.

The best thing to say about the 113 is that you can circle the wagons and have a fighting perimeter that will deflect the 7.62 x 59 or the 0.223...not much else.

Oh and they will keep out the sun to prevent sunburn and if you shut the upper hatch it will keep the rain off of you.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2016-08-02 15:38|| 2016-08-02 15:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Sock, As I recall they were also good for mapping the bottoms of water bodies.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-08-02 15:56|| 2016-08-02 15:56|| Front Page Top

#4 "The Pentagon Wars" movie is both hilarious and an inside look at requirements creep, about how an upgraded M-113 became the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Dunno about the book.

Maybe someday, someone will do a re-make starring the F-35.

Posted by SteveS 2016-08-02 16:17|| 2016-08-02 16:17|| Front Page Top

#5 "namer" is Hebrew for "tiger"

Leopard for purists and tiger is tiger (most people don't bother)

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-08-02 16:24|| 2016-08-02 16:24|| Front Page Top

#6 The M113 was designed to get infantry to the battle quickly and keep them mostly protected against artillery/mortar splinters/shrapnel and light arms.

It did do that quite well.

As for protecting the occupants against hostile incoming fire from heavy machine guns and pretty much anything else... 'twasnt it's job.

Posted by DarthVader 2016-08-02 16:38|| 2016-08-02 16:38|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm here to say that after an exchange of mortar rounds and other niceties with our short friends from north of the DMZ, my entire company of M-113s could possibly whistle like a steam calipee in a high wind. Not to mention bomb fragments from daisy cutters dropped to keep the little bastards off our necks.

We liked the extra .50s that having tracks gave us compared to regular leg infantry and we liked having 4.2 mortars but everything else about a 113 was it came with everything but a bullseye.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2016-08-02 18:35|| 2016-08-02 18:35|| Front Page Top

#8 As for protecting the occupants against hostile incoming fire from heavy machine guns and pretty much anything else... 'twasnt it's job.

They figured nobody would be bringing MGs?

Posted by Rob Crawford 2016-08-02 23:39|| 2016-08-02 23:39|| Front Page Top

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