Article

2016-11-14 Iraq

Iraqi Troops in Mosul Could be Trump's First Crisis

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-11-14 08:11|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Iraq

#1 Historically this situation would have been met by a siege.

Posted by Glenmore 2016-11-14 08:36|| 2016-11-14 08:36|| Front Page Top

#2 and this is our crisis, how?

Posted by Frank G 2016-11-14 08:39|| 2016-11-14 08:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Why? Just because you say so? It's a ongoing crisis for the Iraqis who elected a corrupted pol who made appointments based on loyalty not competency. Sounds like a self inflicted wound to me. Maybe if you really fought a war to win rather than an exercise to placate NGOs and their whining, it might not be as difficult as you make it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-11-14 08:39|| 2016-11-14 08:39|| Front Page Top

#4 I believe I came to understand Arab militaries in 1980, when - while stationed on Israeli Egyptian border - I've seen an officer hit a senior enlisted on the face with a riding crop. Several times. The NCO didn't even try to cover his face, or anything.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-11-14 08:46|| 2016-11-14 08:46|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm with Frank G on this. Let them handle their own messes.
And just for the record, we need to make it a rule to shoot out of hand any and all who bring up reconstruction of a defeated enemy. And if they don't feel 'quite defeated yet', well okay then, keep shelling until they get the message.
Don't get me started on NGO's.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2016-11-14 09:56|| 2016-11-14 09:56|| Front Page Top

#6 Doesn't help that the western side of Mosul was left unsecured.

Posted by Pappy 2016-11-14 11:22|| 2016-11-14 11:22|| Front Page Top

#7 It didn't take the press too long to start pinning blame on Trump, did it? This is only the beginning.

Posted by Raj 2016-11-14 11:29|| 2016-11-14 11:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Remember the period before the 2006 Mid-Term Election? The local ~~rag~~ newspaper had a Page 1 Above-the-Fold story every day, often with gory pictures, about the horrors unfolding in Iraq. With Democratic Majority achieved the next issue prioritized stories about a pink llama in the county fair (!?!) and local corruption.
The MSM will make it a Republican problem because that is what they do.

Posted by magpie 2016-11-14 11:42|| 2016-11-14 11:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Tunnels are susceptible to gas and those compression bomb thingies. Think of this as an opportunity to acquire new skills, Mr. Goran. Consult the Israelis.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-11-14 11:44|| 2016-11-14 11:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Trump's crisis is the state of US physical infrastructure, manufacturing jobs, illegal immigration etc.

Posted by John Frum 2016-11-14 12:54|| 2016-11-14 12:54|| Front Page Top

#11 Flame throwers and Jerry cans of gasoline worked wonders for my grandfather and uncles in the Pacific.

Posted by Knuckles Whaising3001 2016-11-14 13:37|| 2016-11-14 13:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Perhaps some carpet bombing is in order.

Posted by Iblis 2016-11-14 13:47|| 2016-11-14 13:47|| Front Page Top

#13 Its elite special forces and an armoured division are fighting to hold districts in the eastern outskirts of the city

Foolish use of rapid deployment mobile forces.
Maybe not so elite.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-11-14 15:02|| 2016-11-14 15:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Elite in relation to the regular Amy which probably isn't very effective

Posted by John Frum 2016-11-14 15:26|| 2016-11-14 15:26|| Front Page Top

#15

Posted by Lone Ranger 2016-11-14 18:15|| 2016-11-14 18:15|| Front Page Top

#16 #11 Flame throwers and Jerry cans of gasoline worked wonders for my grandfather and uncles in the Pacific.

Yes, they did, Knuckles! Here is a pic of my dad's amphibian tractor hosing a cave on Peleliu in WW2. Dad drove an LVT with a Canadian Ronson flamethrower module placed in the bed. Flame worked wonders on neutralizing caves and pillboxes. However, one had to watch out for a pillbox and some serious ammunition and artillery round cookoffs.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2016-11-14 20:14|| 2016-11-14 20:14|| Front Page Top

#17 Fuel air munitions, TW

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2016-11-14 21:53|| 2016-11-14 21:53|| Front Page Top

21:55 Whiskey Mike
21:53 Whiskey Mike
21:33 charger
20:42 Barbara
20:39 Frank G
20:34 Barbara
20:32 JohnQC
20:32 Barbara
20:31 charger
20:24 Frank G
20:24 charger
20:22 Skidmark
20:20 Alaska Paul
20:18 Skidmark
20:14 Alaska Paul
20:12 vendaval
20:08 vendaval
20:03 vendaval
19:53 Zhang Fei
19:42 JohnQC
19:36 Iblis
19:32 JohnQC
19:21 USN, Ret.
19:20 phil_b