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2016-12-05 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
SF in ISIS fight frustrated by top brass drone micromanagement
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Posted by Besoeker 2016-12-05 05:37|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top
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#1 My guess is the aerial 'drone management' is conducted by neither clueless politicians nor senior military brass. But that's just a guess.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-12-05 05:54||   2016-12-05 05:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Never served so much as a minute in the military. And any of you who served should be happy about that. I respect the hell out of you that did, but, I've had an anti-authoritarian streak a mile wide since I was 2 and it would not have worked out well.

That said, I remember hearing about this kind of $hit in Viet Nam and also I heard about the institution of fragging. How bad does it have to get before the controllers "feel their pain"? Wasn't that one of LBJ's problems?
Posted by AlanC 2016-12-05 08:08||   2016-12-05 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Helicopter Hover factor, Vietnam Era

The desperate need to impose power and control. It then creates a mother-may-I environment. Too many things happen too fast on a battlefield to have one 'brain' handle it all. Then the enemy is able to exploit that overload. Time and again demonstrated at the NTC in the 80s. We're back.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-12-05 08:52||   2016-12-05 08:52|| Front Page Top

#4 micromanagement = inbred institutional hesitation = frustration and casualties for the good guys

The formula never changes. It really sucks too - even when the micromanagement is finally removed, the hesitation lingers.

Posted by Tennessee 2016-12-05 09:39||   2016-12-05 09:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Eight years of this has bred an entire cohort of officers and senior NCOs who see careers advanced or ended by the mother-may-I syndrome. It takes years to wash out or ruthless culling. Given the new secdef, I'm thinking the latter. A new crop of 04 and 05 need to be brought up quickly.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2016-12-05 10:23||   2016-12-05 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Or maybe bring back a bunch of O-5 and O-6 that were forced out by the empty suit's perfumed warriors in the Pentagon...A lot of fine soldiers and great leaders with initiative and guts are drawing retirement checks that would love to get back in it.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2016-12-05 11:53||   2016-12-05 11:53|| Front Page Top

#7 When every decision, including those to fire or not, need to be run up the chain in Washington, nothing much gets done.

Posted by DarthVader 2016-12-05 13:09||   2016-12-05 13:09|| Front Page Top

#8 I hate playing Mother May I?
Can only imagine the frustration.
Posted by swksvolFF 2016-12-05 17:00||   2016-12-05 17:00|| Front Page Top

#9 The downside of enhanced communications. The bosses want to communicate.
Posted by Jomort Ulavigum1021 2016-12-05 17:14||   2016-12-05 17:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Think: a platoon of Lindsay Graham JAGS poised to make a career jump on your dead career
Posted by Frank G 2016-12-05 21:37||   2016-12-05 21:37|| Front Page Top

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