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2017-03-23 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Stranded for 5 days in Arizona wilderness, woman hikes 11 miles to call for help
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Posted by Besoeker 2017-03-23 10:08|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 A GoFundMe account has been set up to help VanHecke with medical expenses.

Silly girl! You should've signed up for Obamacare. Then all of your expenses would've been covered!

[/sarc]
Posted by Bobby 2017-03-23 13:20||   2017-03-23 13:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Rescuers said VanHecke was smart and "did everything right."

Yet they located her car before finding her. So other than getting the first rule of survival in stranded vehicle situation wrong she did everything else right.
Posted by DepotGuy  2017-03-23 14:53||   2017-03-23 14:53|| Front Page Top

#3 11 miles?
She was only 11 miles from cell coverage?
That's an afternoon's walk at a sauntering pace!
This is winter. The Arizona temps are moderate.
Posted by al aSha-med 2017-03-23 15:29||   2017-03-23 15:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Her posting / explanation:
Hey guys. Since everyone keeps asking, I'll post the explanation here.

I was on my way from the southern rim of the Grand canyon. I put Havasu Falls Trail Head into Google maps. I had 70 miles to empty not including reserves. I go down the highway leading from the rim and it says turn right before I thought it was the right road. I decided to trust Google and turn onto this ratchet dirt road. Google said I'd only be on it 40 miles before the next highway where I figured I could get gas well before the danger zone. Anywho. 35 miles in, it says to turn on a road that doesn't exist. I figured it may have washed a bit of the road away since they were primitive dirt roads. So. I turned anyway and figured I'd see the road momentarily. It was getting dark. I came up to a fence with no roads in sight. Panicked since gps stopped working, too. So I Panicked and tried to find the road again. Finally found it but was at 0 to empty. Parked by the first man made structure I found and decided to wait til daylight. Turns out my reserve was exhausted, too.

So I spent five days constructing various signs to help someone find me. Including an SOS sign out of rocks about four feet by ten feet. That wasn't working so I made a "HELP" sign on the third day that I got to about 20-30 feet tall for the letters. I also tried a signal fire but since everything was so dry, it burned too clean. I also made a road barricade after a truck driver drove past me without noticing. I had a flashing headlamp that I turned on every night. I rationed my food and water and when they found me I still had 16-18 days left. However, I got tired of waiting to be rescued.

I had no signal and no gps. So I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and hiked a total of 21-22 miles. I had to hike 11 miles east from my car just to get signal to call 911. Even then, the call dropped after 49 seconds and I had to pray they got enough info to find me. The helicopter found me about two hills away from my car on my hike back. Idk if it was a mile. Maybe less.

So they put me on the care flight and hooked me up to fluids and oxygen. On the bright side, I guess I got to cross riding in a helicopter off of my bucket list. Now I'm at a hotel in Flagstaff awaiting family and an escort. So yeah. Trauma and stuff.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-03-23 16:40||   2017-03-23 16:40|| Front Page Top

#5 So apparently she was returning to her car & was a short distance away from it when she was found.
She either did not have a spare tire, or was unaware of the huge and extremely visible amount of black smoke produced by a burning spare tire.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-03-23 16:42||   2017-03-23 16:42|| Front Page Top

#6 "explained that she ran out of gas after Google Maps sent her down a road that didn't exist."

Wonder if the lawyers are ringing her phone off the hook.

Picture on the story has her vehicle parked in some nice shade. Amazed she waited 5 days though.
Posted by rjschwarz 2017-03-23 16:45||   2017-03-23 16:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Question about txt msg in general: If you try to send one and don't have cell coverage at that very instant, will the cell phone keep "pinging" until it makes contact with the network, and then will it send its msg at the usual high bit rate typical of cell msgs? Sending txt msgs usually takes just a few seconds, no where near the 49 sec. mentioned.
I was once hiking in the canyon of the Rio Grande near Bandelier National Monument. Had no cell phone coverage for miles in any direction due to the canyonland features. At one point, I was suddenly able to see the Sandia ridgeline above Albuquerque - line of sight was about 40 miles away, and this only through a gap in the nearby mountains. At that very instant I received a text msg from Albuquerque (most likely from a cellular network transmitter on that distant ridge) that caused me to change my plans. A few feet further down the trail - no coverage at all.
Reading between the lines, lost person was using Google maps through the cell phone data system, an extremely bad choice in any remote area.
One remote area close to where I live -- many shorelines of the Great Lakes have NO coverage, even though they may be rather close to major cities. The networks don't bother installing transmitters out on the lakes.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-03-23 16:58||   2017-03-23 16:58|| Front Page Top

#8 It is my understanding that the 9-11 system does not accept text messages, Anguper Hupomosing9418.

When I try to send a text message and for some reason it does not get into the system, a message just pops up on my cell phone that the message failed. The phone does not keep trying to send it until it gets through.
Posted by trailing wife 2017-03-23 17:12||   2017-03-23 17:12|| Front Page Top

#9 FCC notes on sending text to 911. Some 911 systems will accept, some won't.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-03-23 17:31||   2017-03-23 17:31|| Front Page Top

#10 I've had the same problem before - Google Maps relies on an always-on connection and won't tell you where you are unless you have data. Even with offline maps enabled it still will freak out and not load.
Posted by Herb McCoy7309 2017-03-23 17:54||   2017-03-23 17:54|| Front Page Top

#11 She did a lot of things right, but she needed better situational awareness, which means she needed good paper maps. When all the wonderful electronics wink out you are back to basics.

I have a Delorme Inreach device that keeps track of my trips by sending an email to who I request, and when they open the website address, they get a graphic of the trip with waypoints every 10 minutes. I can also text message with Iridium, just like how the points are sent. Also have emergency button. It's a good thing. Also better to let someone know where you are going.

Here is a map of one of my son's snow machine trips. The contour map comes as part of the program.

Leif snowmachine trip map
Posted by Alaska Paul 2017-03-23 17:59||   2017-03-23 17:59|| Front Page Top

#12 I LOVE paper maps
Posted by Frank G 2017-03-23 18:58||   2017-03-23 18:58|| Front Page Top

#13 What projection Frank?
Posted by Skidmark 2017-03-23 22:21||   2017-03-23 22:21|| Front Page Top

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