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2017-04-06 Government

Former Ranger Instructor Calls For Army To Create Urban Warfare School

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Posted by Besoeker 2017-04-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 So small game snares, fish trap and L-shaped ambush training will be replaced with drive-by shooting and bus stop trolling. Welcome to LA.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-04-06 02:48|| 2017-04-06 02:48|| Front Page Top

#2 After 16 years of Iraq you still don't have one?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-04-06 08:32|| 2017-04-06 08:32|| Front Page Top

#3 Mckenna MOUT site. No formal 'school' that I know of.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-04-06 08:49|| 2017-04-06 08:49|| Front Page Top

#4 There isn't a formal school. Every base has a MOUT area and units train on their own in it.

Cities are just meat grinders for armies and if one isn't really needed, I am for just leveling it with artillery and moving on.

Posted by DarthVader 2017-04-06 09:35|| 2017-04-06 09:35|| Front Page Top

#5 Cities are just meat grinders for armies and if one isn't really needed, I am for just leveling it with artillery and moving on.

Also thermobaric weapopons or fuel-air bombs to level the playing field instead of dealing with meat-grinders.

Posted by JohnQC 2017-04-06 10:50|| 2017-04-06 10:50|| Front Page Top

#6 This is a good call. We need to be able to teach MOUT operations at a better level. If we are going to ask out troops to be door kickers we need to give them more than a simple exposure to it before we ask them to go forward and fight.

Posted by 49 Pan 2017-04-06 13:04|| 2017-04-06 13:04|| Front Page Top

#7 Cities are just meat grinders for armies and if one isn't really needed, I am for just leveling it with artillery and moving on.
In WW2 the Germans were astounded that the US Army was so concerned with line straightening that we had to clear the Hurtgen Forest. They then moved one good Infantry Division supported by totally green Volksgrenadier in there and lets us bleed ourselves white. Sometimes the best tactic is to just cordon off an area and whack it with indirect fire when it gets uppity.

Posted by magpie 2017-04-06 13:06|| 2017-04-06 13:06|| Front Page Top

#8 We're not using Detroit, and no one would miss Chicago. Make them useful!

Posted by Rob Crawford 2017-04-06 16:54|| 2017-04-06 16:54|| Front Page Top

#9 IIRC Pendleton has one for USMC

Posted by Frank G 2017-04-06 19:40|| 2017-04-06 19:40|| Front Page Top

#10 Magpie, your tactic sounds like it would be familiar to Edward, Black Prince of Wales.

Posted by rjschwarz 2017-04-06 20:57|| 2017-04-06 20:57|| Front Page Top

#11 You know, the Russians under Zhukov would encircle, bypass and just starve out centers of resistance...which explains their doctrinal rapid advancement metrics.

And Montgomery is still pivoting around Caen.

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