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2017-05-05 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Delta kicks family off flt to facilitate stand-by passenger (Video)
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Posted by Besoeker 2017-05-05 06:43|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Hat tip to the passenger and his wife. Notice how calmly the offended passenger continues to facilitate dialogue and the video recording of the event? He knows he has just hit the legal damages lotto and is trying to mentally select the color and optional equipment for he and his wife's matching 2018 Carreras and Ivy League colleges for the boys. It really is quite a lot to think about on such short notice.
Posted by Besoeker 2017-05-05 06:55||   2017-05-05 06:55|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't think the passenger rules have been significantly updated since the Civil Aeronautics Board era. Maybe the 'contact' aspects need to be moved from the FAA to the FTC for administration and subject to existing legal precedents concerning such.
Posted by P2Kontheroad 2017-05-05 07:57||   2017-05-05 07:57|| Front Page Top

#3 As I understand the conditions of the ticket (contract) it only applies to the person named, so when the 18 year old did not use his, it reverted to the airline to sell again, not to the family of the non-flying passenger to use for their unticked baby.
Posted by Glenmore 2017-05-05 08:27||   2017-05-05 08:27|| Front Page Top

#4 As I understand the conditions of the ticket (contract) it only applies to the person named, so when the 18 year old did not use his, it reverted to the airline to sell again, not to the family of the non-flying passenger to use for their unticked baby.

Yes, but this unhappy event appears to have taken place at a layover or stop, with Delta's full concurrence for the passenger switch at the flight's point of origin.
Posted by Besoeker 2017-05-05 08:31||   2017-05-05 08:31|| Front Page Top

#5 So now we know where the fired United employees ended up finding a new job.
Posted by gorb 2017-05-05 10:11||   2017-05-05 10:11|| Front Page Top

#6 "Here, hold my gin."
Posted by swksvolFF 2017-05-05 10:51||   2017-05-05 10:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Is this something that has been going on for a while, and we are only finding out about it now that people are posting video taken on their phones, or is this something new?
Posted by trailing wife 2017-05-05 10:57||   2017-05-05 10:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Its not new. Flying has sucked for as long as I can remember.
Posted by Crusader 2017-05-05 11:07||   2017-05-05 11:07|| Front Page Top

#9 Depends on the airline. Southwest has always been tolerable in my experience. Hawaiian has always been more than tolerable. The one time I flew JAL it was pretty good in spite of the long distance. United - not so much.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-05-05 11:31||   2017-05-05 11:31|| Front Page Top

#10 Been flying since '67. Some airlines were very good some great and some just okay up until the '90s when amenities and courtesy started to wain.

After 9/11 it's gotten pretty bad all around with a few airlines trying to return to civility but amenities are few and far between unless you pay the big bucks for business or first class.
Posted by AlanC 2017-05-05 11:53||   2017-05-05 11:53|| Front Page Top

#11 I remember wishing I had been bumped from some US Air flights.
Posted by Skidmark 2017-05-05 12:07||   2017-05-05 12:07|| Front Page Top

#12 

What Caused an Epic Meltdown at Delta
Posted by newc 2017-05-05 12:57||   2017-05-05 12:57|| Front Page Top

#13 In the video, an employee tells him refusing to get off the plane was a federal offense and he could be jailed.

"What blew me away was when they said, if you don't give the seat up, you're going to jail, your wife is going to jail, and they're gonna take your kids away," he told NBC4 Wednesday.


Was the employee representing himself/herself as a police officer? If so, that is an offence.

Southwest says they are not over-booking their flights. Of course, they don't go everywhere.
Posted by JohnQC 2017-05-05 13:10||   2017-05-05 13:10|| Front Page Top

#14 The airlines claim not giving up your seat is disorderly conduct. In reality a flight attendant telling someone to get out of their seat and leave unexpectedly is disorderly conduct.

Try that on a Greyhound passenger and see what happens to you, not just by the passenger bit the whole cabin. 'Nother class of people, bro.
Posted by Nero White 3083 2017-05-05 15:13||   2017-05-05 15:13|| Front Page Top

#15 What's disorderly is overbooking a flight and trying to unseat the seated passenger for the latecomer.
Posted by gorb 2017-05-05 16:24||   2017-05-05 16:24|| Front Page Top

#16 How long before phones must be turned off before entering the plane (for safety reasons of course), or forbidden in the cabin because of terrorism ( aka might film airline employees doing bad things)?
Posted by rjschwarz 2017-05-05 19:20||   2017-05-05 19:20|| Front Page Top

#17 Buried in news earlier this week was the story about the bumped (and bruised) United pax:
settled for am 'undisclosed sum.'
expect the Delta family will also be getting an 'undisclosed sum.'
Posted by USN, Ret. 2017-05-05 22:20||   2017-05-05 22:20|| Front Page Top

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