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2017-05-08 Europe
Election: What Happened in France?
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Posted by Besoeker 2017-05-08 03:31|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 Suicide.
Posted by Hupeart Thaitch2372 2017-05-08 04:10||   2017-05-08 04:10|| Front Page Top

#2 A client state of Islam? History, why must it repeat itself ?

The Vichy regime was the French government which succeeded the Third Republic from July 1940 to August 1944. It was proclaimed by Marshal Philippe Pétain following the military defeat of France and the July 10 vote by the National Assembly to grant extraordinary powers to Pétain, who held the title of President of the Council.

The “French state,” (L'État Français) in contrast to the “French Republic,” willfully collaborated with Nazi Germany to a high degree: raids to capture Jews and other “undesirables” were organized by the French police not only in the northern zone - occupied by the German Wehrmacht - but also in the southern “free zone” which was occupied only after the Allies invaded North Africa in November 1942.

While Pétain collaborated with the Germans, Charles de Gaulle claimed to incarnate the legitimacy and the continuity of France. Following the liberation of France after Operation Overlord, de Gaulle proclaimed the Provisional Government of the French Republic (GPRF) in June 1944. The GPRF was recognized as the legitimate government of France by all the allies on October 23, 1944.

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Posted by Besoeker 2017-05-08 04:19||   2017-05-08 04:19|| Front Page Top

#3 ... and feel a deep need to atone.

Which they express via 'anti-Zionism'?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-05-08 04:32||   2017-05-08 04:32|| Front Page Top

#4 Putin lost.
Posted by Clyde Mussolini1716 2017-05-08 08:59||   2017-05-08 08:59|| Front Page Top

#5 
Posted by Phinese Fleating9433 2017-05-08 09:22||   2017-05-08 09:22|| Front Page Top

#6 When do you think our ancestors left Europe in the first place? Unfortunately, we have a class of people who want to model America after the place.
Posted by Procopius2k 2017-05-08 09:47||   2017-05-08 09:47|| Front Page Top

#7 er...Why..
Posted by Procopius2k 2017-05-08 09:47||   2017-05-08 09:47|| Front Page Top

#8 
Posted by Phinese Fleating9433 2017-05-08 09:51||   2017-05-08 09:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Not ready for emancipation?
Posted by JohnQC 2017-05-08 09:58||   2017-05-08 09:58|| Front Page Top

#10 If as reported 1/3 of French ballots were returned unmarked or damaged, it suggests that apparent mandate for whatsisface is not exactly solid. I wonder what local elections will look like.
Posted by Angusock Chuting6110 2017-05-08 10:50||   2017-05-08 10:50|| Front Page Top

#11 What Happened in France?

Real men don't eat Quiche.
Posted by Skidmark 2017-05-08 11:03||   2017-05-08 11:03|| Front Page Top

#12 Dunno much about French media. Dunno what role it played in shaping French opinions. But if it's anything like ABCNBCCBSCNN - WAPO - NYT then it's possible the people of France are getting a lot of fake news, yellow journalism and slanted stories. Kinda hard to run an election that way.

I don't understand the guilt over imperialism and WWII either. Muslims are NOT Jewish.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-05-08 11:44||   2017-05-08 11:44|| Front Page Top

#13 I don't understand the guilt over imperialism and WWII either. Muslims are NOT Jewish.

They take the parochial view that both Jews and Muslims are (or have been, in the case of Muslims in certain communities) small minorities in Europe. They ignore the fact that the Jews were also until the establishment of Israel a small minority everywhere in the world, while Muslims are the vast majority in a large chunk of it. In other words, opening the doors to Europe's Jews back in the day would have got them 8 million or so more at most, while opening the doors to the world's Muslims today could bring in 1 billion of them, from a culture that conquers rather than assimilates.

Incidentally, as of Israel's Independence Day a few days ago, there are 14.4 Jews worldwide, 43% of whom live in Israel.
Posted by trailing wife 2017-05-08 12:06||   2017-05-08 12:06|| Front Page Top

#14 Sigh, we're back to "Freedom Fries," I guess.
Posted by regular joe 2017-05-08 12:48||   2017-05-08 12:48|| Front Page Top

#15 TW, I presume that is 14.4 million, but even then it still a stunningly small number,
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2017-05-08 16:27||   2017-05-08 16:27|| Front Page Top

#16 14.4 million

*sigh* Yes, thank you for catching that, dear Whisky Mike. I caught all my other mistakes, but missed that one. :-( There are so many ways to belong to a small minority, including hanging out at Rantburg, that belonging to one of the smaller world religions doesn't make me feel unusual -- but that may be a specifically American experience.
Posted by trailing wife 2017-05-08 18:09||   2017-05-08 18:09|| Front Page Top

#17 Don't preach, if you please. It's all peachy.
We world-weary French won't get screechy
Till Russians reach Clichy,
Elites flee to Vichy,
Or headscarves are no longer chi-chi.
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2017-05-08 18:13||   2017-05-08 18:13|| Front Page Top

#18 Oh, TW. Thanks for kind words yesterday. I meant ot reply -- often intend to, actually --but that rollover time's problematic -- I'm usually distracted, nodding off, or running out the door in that slot, depending... Anyway, I knew it wasn't working, but also knew I had to get something down so it wouldn't drive me crazy all day. Thanks for humoring me.
Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2017-05-08 18:20||   2017-05-08 18:20|| Front Page Top

#19 At some point the French will fight back and it will be a very nasty civil war. I put my money on the French but the longer they wait before confronting the obvious problem the worse the odds.

And I wouldn't count on American doughboys coming getting involved this time.
Posted by rjschwarz 2017-05-08 18:57||   2017-05-08 18:57|| Front Page Top

#20 I meant ot reply -- often intend to, actually --but that rollover time's problematic

I have the same problem, Zenobia F. I get involved in finding articles for the next day or whatever, then don't get back to see what's been said until it's too late. You can always post comments in the O Club, though -- I check that regularly, and there's no rollover. For the record, the O Club is just a chat spot for all Ramtburgers who want to chat, not restricted to certain personnel. Poke your head in, and I'll be happy to buy you an imaginary drink of your choice. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2017-05-08 19:53||   2017-05-08 19:53|| Front Page Top

#21 Matt Bracken wrote a chapter in his new novel. Dealt with the French finally going medieval on the islamists. It was brutal. LINK HERE.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2017-05-08 21:05||   2017-05-08 21:05|| Front Page Top

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