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2017-08-15 China-Japan-Koreas

North Korea's Missile Success Is Linked to Ukrainian Plant, Investigators Say

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Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top
File under: Commies

#1 For a small, rather impoverished communist country which lacks the technology to provide electricity and food to it's people, they do seem to have made a giant leap forward in nuclear science and missile technology. Perhaps our illustrious "intelligence services" could shed some light on this topic.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-08-15 07:47|| 2017-08-15 07:47|| Front Page Top

#2 You mean the same "21 Intelligence Services" who missed 9/11, the rapidity of NORK nuke developments and seem certain Mr. Trump "colluded" with the Rooskies? That group of intelligence services?

Although I am certain they could find out what I had for breakfast this morning.

Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2017-08-15 08:08|| 2017-08-15 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 1. The Houthis (or rather, renegade elements of the Yemen Army loyal to the deposed president) are using Russian-design missiles.

2. The Iranians are involved with the Houthi elements in Yemen.

3. The Iranians also have ties with North Korea, both in the NorKs training Iranian forces and cooperation on their respective nuclear programs.

4. The Iranians are flush with funds, both from Euros eager for profit(after lowered sanctions) and $400 million on pallets along with a note saying "With Love from Barry and Valarie".

5. The Ukranians aren't exactly the least corrupt people on the planet and they have a renowned fondness for cash.

Have I missed anything?

Posted by Pappy 2017-08-15 11:25|| 2017-08-15 11:25|| Front Page Top

#4 NO! NY SLIME GOT IT WRONG AGAIN!

The author of the original study mis-quoted by the NY Times is PISSED-OFF big time!

The engines are a Ukrainian design made only in Moscow Russia under license by NPO Energomash.

(Wikipedia on NPO Energomash

Link including quote by Anatoly Zak who did the real research.

Posted by 3dc 2017-08-15 13:00|| 2017-08-15 13:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Soo..

Does that mean the Russians are selling to the NorKs, or to the Iranians? Or the Chinese?

Or

It was mentioned in that ridiculously long message thread of another production site, albeit slower and lower production numbers. What's to stop the design from being 'quietly' produced or (more likely) assembled elsewhere, possibly in smaller numbers?

Posted by Pappy 2017-08-15 14:37|| 2017-08-15 14:37|| Front Page Top

#6 If North Korea has a couple of large Haas's, a BOM stock list, and prints, they could probably make the rocket engines.

For example,

Just because Pratt and Whitney _charges_ 38 million for an RL-10 engine doesn't mean it was that hard to build back in the 1990's when they charged a lot less for the four that went into the DC-X. (And those were specially modified with a different nozzle design to work with atmospheric backpressure, and therefore essentially custom engines with RL-10 turbomachinery).

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2017-08-15 19:07|| 2017-08-15 19:07|| Front Page Top

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