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2017-08-18 Home Front: WoT

Trump cites tale of Gen. Pershing's pigs' blood bullets that historians dismiss

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Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2017-08-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 I would suspect that most American bullets send jihadis straight to Hell.

Posted by jvalentour 2017-08-18 00:30|| 2017-08-18 00:30|| Front Page Top

#2 In the interest of Science, I say we try it and see if it works.

Posted by SteveS 2017-08-18 01:13|| 2017-08-18 01:13|| Front Page Top

#3 I remember reading about Pershing dipping bullets in pigs blood sometime in the last century. Can anyone verify this?

Wouldn't this foul the bore?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-18 02:33|| 2017-08-18 02:33|| Front Page Top

#4 No, as long as you only dip the tip and let it dry while upside down. Doesn't take much.

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2017-08-18 03:00|| 2017-08-18 03:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Seeking, thank you very much, you caused me to remember my platoon sergeant in basic - I haven't thought of him for 40 years. We called him (behind his back) Dracula. I'll probably have nightmares tonight.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-18 03:07|| 2017-08-18 03:07|| Front Page Top

#6 I remembered this, or something similar...

Form Wiki -

Moro Rebellion (1899–1913) was an armed conflict between the Moro people and the United States military.

The word "Moro" is a term for ethnic Muslims who lived in the Southern Philippines, an area that includes Mindanao, Jolo and the neighboring Sulu Archipelago.

Tactics

Pershing wrote the following in his autobiography, about the juramentado:[65]‬

These juramentado were materially reduced in number by a practice the army had already adopted, one that the Mohammedans held in abhorrence. The bodies were publicly buried in the same grave with a dead pig. It was not pleasant to take such measures but the prospect of going to hell instead of heaven sometimes deterred the would-be assassins.[66][67][68]

Though Pershing inflicted this treatment upon captured juramentado,[69]‬ regarding it as an unpleasant measure,[70][71] there is no proof that he used other similar tactics.[72]

Posted by BrerRabbit 2017-08-18 03:53|| 2017-08-18 03:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Back in my yoot, I read a biography of Pershing that said the Moro's were buried with entrails and blood of pigs. The graves were shown to the condemned first then the person was shot. Usually with others as witnesses and they carried the stories back to the other Moros.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2017-08-18 09:49|| 2017-08-18 09:49|| Front Page Top

#8 Bacon - what can't it do?

Posted by Anomalous Sources 2017-08-18 10:35|| 2017-08-18 10:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Silver Bullet Gun oil made out of pig's fat to put Jihadist down

Posted by 3dc 2017-08-18 11:04|| 2017-08-18 11:04|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't know about Pershing but the British in India

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-18 11:09|| 2017-08-18 11:09|| Front Page Top

#11 "This story is a fabrication and has long been discredited," Brian McAllister Linn, a Texas A&M University [professor?], told Politifact. "I am amazed it is still making the rounds."

Seldom, do those who write the history books actually know what goes on in wars.

Posted by JohnQC 2017-08-18 11:20|| 2017-08-18 11:20|| Front Page Top

#12 Add in the same strategy that Gen. Sheridan used in the Shenandoah campaign.

Posted by DarthVader 2017-08-18 11:21|| 2017-08-18 11:21|| Front Page Top

#13 g(r)omgorum I;m sorry to hear that. All I can say is you should thank your drill sergeant, you're still alive today aren't you?

Posted by Seeking cure for ignorance 2017-08-18 13:19|| 2017-08-18 13:19|| Front Page Top

#14 I had plenty of garlic with dinner - just in case.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-08-18 13:24|| 2017-08-18 13:24|| Front Page Top

#15 Well, there are historians and then there are people who were there. Old man confessed that before hitting the islands in the Pacific, some of them would modify their bullets to make them dum dum rounds. Nothing official, but then again, troops would take their own initiative. So, technically, there is no record of our boys using such round. Historians searching the 'records' wouldn't find it either.

Posted by Procopius2k 2017-08-18 19:11|| 2017-08-18 19:11|| Front Page Top

#16 In the book Empire of the Seas, there is an accounting of the defenders putting fat on the bullets, which, if hit, would ignite the clothing of the Ottomans.

Posted by swksvolFF 2017-08-18 20:37|| 2017-08-18 20:37|| Front Page Top

#17 The story I heard is that the Sepoy Mutiny in colonial India was triggered by a British officer telling Muslim troops that the bullets for their rifles were lubricated with pig fat.

Posted by ed in texas 2017-08-18 21:30|| 2017-08-18 21:30|| Front Page Top

#18 'Tap, tap' with the Kabar and the slug bears the sign of The Cross. Use it on the .45s to send little missionaries.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-08-18 22:38|| 2017-08-18 22:38|| Front Page Top

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