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2017-09-13 -War on Police-
Heather Heyer Died of a Heart Attack
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Posted by badanov 2017-09-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11 views ]  Top

#1 'Life Flight' did not appear to be a viable option.
Posted by Besoeker 2017-09-13 01:18||   2017-09-13 01:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Should be a simple matter to get an autopsy report. BTW, how's the pretrial phase going for the driver?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-09-13 10:53||   2017-09-13 10:53|| Front Page Top

#3 BTW, how's the pretrial phase going for the driver?

Curiously quiet, no?
Posted by Pappy 2017-09-13 13:46||   2017-09-13 13:46|| Front Page Top

#4 You'd think some energetic journalist looking to get a scoop would be looking into it. How long can they keep the guy locked up while they make their case?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-09-13 14:06||   2017-09-13 14:06|| Front Page Top

#5 So Rantburg is now linking to White Supremacist sites now huh? Is it really relevant that an overweight woman that got mowed over by fucking Nazi may have died of a heart attack instead of blunt force trauma? Yeah...and those fat jokes are real classy too.
Posted by DepotGuy  2017-09-13 15:17||   2017-09-13 15:17|| Front Page Top

#6 So Rantburg is now linking to White Supremacist sites now huh?

Give it a rest DG. I only speak for myself - but your never-Trump rants are getting pretty tiresome
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-09-13 15:37||   2017-09-13 15:37|| Front Page Top

#7 ...but your never-Trump rants are getting pretty tiresome.

What do my comments have to do with President Trump?
Allow me to answer - absolutely nothing.
The link to this post is an unapologetic WS site. The content and comments are overtly racist and anti-semetic. The article itself is repugnant and IMO beneath Rantburg standards. But then again maybe things have completly changed around this joint.
Posted by DepotGuy  2017-09-13 15:53||   2017-09-13 15:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Yeah, I doubt that's 250, unless she's a 5'0" tall smoker.
Posted by Skidmark 2017-09-13 15:56||   2017-09-13 15:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Yep. We're all wrong, and you're right (goyshe kopf)
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-09-13 16:08||   2017-09-13 16:08|| Front Page Top

#10 So Rantburg is now linking to White Supremacist sites now huh? Is it really relevant that an overweight woman that got mowed over by fucking Nazi may have died of a heart attack instead of blunt force trauma? Yeah...and those fat jokes are real classy too.

I made the decision to link to a "White Supremacist site", because the writer had provided a fact that apparently some people regard as cause to force someone off the internet, and had provided a fact/opinion I was not aware of.

Hunter Wallace has the same right to speak his mind as the people who were denied a forum on the Internet by stating the very same opinion.

I placed it in opinion because I routinely feature editorials that do not fit my views.

You apparently are in the same mindset as Google and GoDaddy, i.e. that the Bill of Rights only apply to you as an individual, and to no one you disapprove of.

As for the fat jokes, you can put this squarely on the media, which featured a foto of the victim which bore very little resemblance to the victim the day she died. The fact the foto bore little resemblance to the woman meant, to me at least, that the media was attempting to blow something by the rest of us. It was a successful attempt at managing opinion before all the facts were out.

What they did by posting the foto and leaving out how Heyer died was much like your overbearing, and patently false (even outrageous) statement that we link to white supremacist sites.

Posted by badanov 2017-09-13 16:41|| http://www.chriscovert.net  2017-09-13 16:41|| Front Page Top

#11 MSM misled us all very badly with their Charlottesville coverage. Instead of focusing on the lack of law enforcement they went after Trump for criticizing both sides in the violence. Then it turns out even Nancy Pelosi is scared of Antifa...but no apologies to Trump. For over a week they raked Trump over the coals as if the violence had been entirely his fault when they should have been asking Gov MacAuliffe why he didn't enforce the law. Now we must consider how Ms. Heyer really died, if it was the driver's fault or not, what's happening with his trial and why the authorities won't release the autopsy report. MSM won't tell us.

So yeah, Depot Guy, Rantburg has a link to a site you choose to characterize as white supremacist. Go ahead and read CNN if think they're any better. But it's no good to cast aspersions on the source unless you can disprove the facts. We want the facts. Got any?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-09-13 17:03||   2017-09-13 17:03|| Front Page Top

#12 Looks like they make a pretty good case.
Posted by swksvolFF 2017-09-13 17:10||   2017-09-13 17:10|| Front Page Top

#13 fucking Nazi

James Fields has been treated for schizophrenia since he was a child, DepotGuy, which is a decade or two earlier than it usual manifests. He needs to be locked up because he is a documented danger to his mother, who takes care of him; the problem is that nowadays we don't lock up crazy people until they've killed someone, after which they spend the rest of their lives in prison. But the particular form of vicious stupidity Mr. Fields latched onto is immaterial -- he could have as easily been a fucking Antifa Black Bloc, or a soldier of the archangel Michael, getting instructions through messages on his laptop that only he could see.

American "Nazis" are pathetic poseurs, except for the ones who are undercover FBI agents or the legitimately insane.

Is it really relevant that an overweight woman that got mowed over by fucking Nazi may have died of a heart attack instead of blunt force trauma?

I am overweight by about twenty pounds. Ms Heyer is grossly obese, carrying about ten times that much excess weight; this may or may not have been the result of poor behavioural choices, though smoking cigarettes, and its effect on an already strained cardiovascular system, definitely is. And yes, it does matter if she spontaneously died of a heart attack due to overexertion rather than having been killed by a panicking crazy man. If she was already dead, he did not kill her, nor could she have dodged out of his path as others did -- and then we can look into the responsibility for subsequent events of the violent Antifa idiots who were pounding on his car with clubs... and the mainstream news media who trumpeted a false story to smear the non-left for political advantage.
Posted by trailing wife 2017-09-13 19:07||   2017-09-13 19:07|| Front Page Top

#14 I made the decision to link to a "White Supremacist site", because the writer had provided a fact that apparently some people regard as cause to force someone off the internet, and had provided a fact/opinion I was not aware of.

I'm sure DepotGuy can helpfully provide other sources that mentioned the heart attack. Perhaps, CNN? ABC, NBC? MSNBC?

Maybe television is boring. Perhaps The New York Times has something? The Washington Post? The Los Angeles Times? The Arizona Republic? Any other 'reasonable' newspaper in his vicinity?

What do my comments have to do with President Trump?
Allow me to answer - absolutely nothing.


Allow me to respond - in this instance.

Your other past comments, not "absolutely nothing".
Posted by Pappy 2017-09-13 19:10||   2017-09-13 19:10|| Front Page Top

#15 … much like your overbearing, and patently false (even outrageous) statement that we link to white supremacist sites.

Hmmm…I wonder what led me to call the link a White Supremacist site? I dunno, maybe it was the article titled ‘White-Collar Supremacy’ in which a “The White ethnostate” is imagined. And oddly enough it’s listed under the tagline of “White Supremacy”. Or maybe it was the websites comment section that led me to that conclusion? As example, one poster with an avatar that has a Nazi symbol imposed on a US flag commented; “The Senate is nothing but israeli-occupied territory.” “And good riddance to Heather “light as a feather” Heyer”. But perhaps that’s me just being overbearing and making patently false statements again.
Posted by DepotGuy 2017-09-13 19:12||   2017-09-13 19:12|| Front Page Top

#16 youcan put this squarely on the media, which featured a foto of the victim which bore very little resemblance to the victim the day she died.

See: "Michael Brown Lil Scholar™", "Trayvon Adorable grade schooler™",....
Posted by Frank G 2017-09-13 20:04||   2017-09-13 20:04|| Front Page Top

#17 Obviously, there's no convincing you.

But at least consider that the great bulk of War on Terror news we post comes from foreign sources, which feature facts and data our vaunted domeatic media won't or can't publish publish.

Some of them are as racist and anti semitic as can be, such as al-Manar and the Iranian news agency Press TV. Some of the sources we use are as bland and unimaginative producers of news as can be, the way it should be.

Some of them, such as the Daily Mail provide us with domestic news we can't find anywhere else.

The decision to link to a white supremacist site was a calculated risk, the calculation only being to bring to light two facts we did not have before.

The site was the source.

The site's owner has some very unsavory political ideas, but his presentation was as unbiased as can be presented.

I hasten to add that I was like you several years ago. If facts or ideas come from unsavory sources, they they must not be considered. But I have aged some since, and my thinking has been tempered somewhat from experience in helping out around here.

I understand you disagree with my decision, but I would prefer to leave it there.
Posted by badanov 2017-09-13 20:18|| http://www.chriscovert.net  2017-09-13 20:18|| Front Page Top

#18 I understand you disagree with my decision, but I would prefer to leave it there.

I still want to know if DepotGuy can cite where, and from what source(s), there was reporting of that news.

I'd like to read DepotGuy's opinion on what AntiFa did at the demonstrations.

Alas, DepotGuy appears to grace us with his august presence only at certain time.
Posted by Pappy 2017-09-13 22:26||   2017-09-13 22:26|| Front Page Top

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