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2017-10-16 Iraq
The "War after ISIS" begins in Iraq
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Posted by Besoeker 2017-10-16 07:17|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iraq 

#1 Long story short: The Kurds just got screwed by their only ally, the US.
Posted by Injun Bucket8891 2017-10-16 07:25||   2017-10-16 07:25|| Front Page Top

#2 in the recent anti ISIS battles, the Kurds have fought better than the Iraqis

however, the Kurds do not, I think, have any air force and the Iraqis do
Posted by lord garth 2017-10-16 07:59||   2017-10-16 07:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Long story short: The Kurds just got screwed by their only ally, the US.

It's traditional
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-10-16 08:22||   2017-10-16 08:22|| Front Page Top

#4 Long story short: The Kurds just got screwed by their only ally, the US.

Let's see what President Trump says and does today.
Posted by trailing wife 2017-10-16 08:43||   2017-10-16 08:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Pff, like Trump is in charge of Middle East policy. The Deep State is running things, it's business as usual.
Posted by Harcourt Angoluting9366 2017-10-16 09:14||   2017-10-16 09:14|| Front Page Top

#6 The Kurds screwed themselves. They were warned this would not end well. Is the US supposed to bomb Baghdad on behalf of the Kurds? Force open up a route to the sea though Iraq, Iran, Turkey or Syria?

I know, American troops can escort Kurdish oil tankers to Israel and imports to Erbil. Who would object to that?
Posted by Omogum Ulaviger9966 2017-10-16 10:20||   2017-10-16 10:20|| Front Page Top

#7 How do you know the US isn't aiding the Kurds?
Posted by  jvalentour 2017-10-16 11:40||   2017-10-16 11:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Because Klingons.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-10-16 11:42||   2017-10-16 11:42|| Front Page Top

#9 When do we get off the fecking wheel? I know lots of people like it and make money off it, but the American taxpayer and the American parent are being ripped off...
Posted by M. Murcek 2017-10-16 13:44||   2017-10-16 13:44|| Front Page Top

#10 The US, and the West in general, have zero national interest in Iraq. We should stay out of it, until and unless their government develops an interest in weapons of mass destruction and/or threatens other allies and peaceful countries, such as Israel.

The Kurds do seem more reasonable and aligned with some Western values, but we don't really know -- note that they're basically led by communists in Turkey. One could make a case for selling them weapons to push Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Iraq to their heels.

The West has three interests in the Middle East: help Israel defend itself, the only free country there (give undiluted moral support, sell weapons, free trade); crush Iran; demand that the Saudis to dis-own the Wahhabis, or else cut them off. For all other groups or states in that region, including Northern Africa: cut off all relationships, or crush them if they suggest or support any attack on the West.

Other than that we have no rational interest in that part of the world; let it fall back to poverty, depravity, and barbarism until they figure out better and start to use reason instead of force.
Posted by si vis pacem, para bellum 2017-10-16 20:50||   2017-10-16 20:50|| Front Page Top

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