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2018-01-20 China-Japan-Koreas
China to use electromagnetic catapult for 3rd carrier.
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Posted by 3dc 2018-01-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top
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#1 I think the ChiComms are a generation away from being a peer competitor with our Carrier Strike Groups and be able to project force globally
--Great you've figured out how to launch them. Next step is how to recover them.
--Current J-15 is WAY too heavy to carry enough gas/bombs to be anything other than a defender of the boat. They either have to build a bigger boat or a smaller airplane. I think they are building bigger boats.
--To go global, you have have fuel n food. ChiComms don't have a capacity to sustain their carriers for long term cruises.

The US has been doing this for 85 years. ChiComms can steal all the technology they want. What they can't steal is experience. Oh and here's another hint - NATOPS is written in blood.
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2018-01-20 01:16||   2018-01-20 01:16|| Front Page Top

#2 What they can't steal is experience.

How many collisions have they recently had? I'm sure they don't have to spend time on 'human resource' training at the level American naval personnel face.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-01-20 01:39||   2018-01-20 01:39|| Front Page Top

#3 #3 - I was specifically talking about millions of hours of carrier operations and hundreds of 1000s of launch/recovery cycles.

No doubt the recent incidents are troubling. The Navy will hold people accountable, learn from this, and be better off.
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2018-01-20 01:54||   2018-01-20 01:54|| Front Page Top

#4 US competitive warfighting edge has slipped, says Mattis
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-01-20 02:07||   2018-01-20 02:07|| Front Page Top

#5 Let the Chicoms waste their money on aircraft carriers. They were obsolete the moment the guided missile was perfected.
Posted by Herb McCoy7309 2018-01-20 02:18||   2018-01-20 02:18|| Front Page Top

#6 I think the ChiComms are a generation away from being a peer competitor with our Carrier Strike Groups and be able to project force globally

That's what the USN thought about the IJN. Then came Pearl Harbor. And the Japanese had nowhere the amount of funding the Chinese are pouring into the PLAN. The Chinese spend about $200b on their military. When you adjust for salary differences* (about 7 to 1), the Chinese are probably spending about the same amount of money. Except they don't have expensive expeditionary forces stationed around the world. Bottom line is they will catch up faster than anyone expects, and I suspect they will be more or less even in a decade or so. Our allies in the region have been straddling the friends in hopes of keeping their trade relationships with China. One of these days, the Chinese will stage a grand tour of Asia, as they were wont to do periodically prior to the last 200 years of weakness. That is when our regional "allies" have to decide whether to become Chinese provinces or throw their lot in with US.

Isn't Thailand a Chinese province in all but name these days, what with their purchases of Chinese military junk equipment? What's the view from Bangkok?

* http://english.chinamil.com.cn/news-channels/china-military-news/2015-01/19/content_6314553.htm
Posted by Zhang Fei 2018-01-20 03:37||   2018-01-20 03:37|| Front Page Top

#7 straddling the friends

straddling the fence
Posted by Zhang Fei 2018-01-20 03:38||   2018-01-20 03:38|| Front Page Top

#8 ZF - no doubt they can project power regionally and are spending money to catch up. However they are at least 10 years away from having all 5 CVs built let alone operational. Also they have zero amphibious capability. The ability to project globally requires multiple deployable CVs and the capability to seize/hold port facilities. Again they are not even close to being there. IMHO the PLAN submarine fleet is the wildcard.

Thailand - well you could say the same about Myanmar and Cambodia. PRC bought em plain n simple. I don't think the PRC will go all "Great East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" militarily - they're doing economically.
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2018-01-20 08:44||   2018-01-20 08:44|| Front Page Top

#9 I read the Chinese were putting their money into outdoor air purifiers.
Posted by Skidmark 2018-01-20 08:45||   2018-01-20 08:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Towering air purifier will bring fresh air to smog-choked Xi’an
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2018-01-20 16:09||   2018-01-20 16:09|| Front Page Top

#11 Towering air purifier will bring fresh air to smog-choked Xi’an

This will do nothing for the smog-choked villages. But at least the party cadres can breathe easy.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2018-01-20 21:34||   2018-01-20 21:34|| Front Page Top

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