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2004-04-20 Terror Networks

Six Reasons Why All the Muslim Rulers Are Murtad

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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-04-20 12:12:40 AM|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 WTF is this. Forgery attempt? Look at the name...

Posted by OldSpook 2004-04-20 1:09:20 AM|| 2004-04-20 1:09:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 They commit shirk by committing sarf and âataf

Good old Al-Muhajiroun. Ha ha ha!! Whey don't they just write the whole lot in arabic/urdu-whatever - I feel like I'm being goaded. I know what a kufr is cos I am one, apparently.

Is that 'shirk' as in 'to shirk one's responsibilities' ?

What are 'sarf and ataf'? sex acts?

Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-20 4:34:19 AM|| 2004-04-20 4:34:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 They do not fulfil the Pillars of Tawheed...

Whoa, I'll have some of what's in his hookah!

I think I might've sarfed at the weekend, but it was all a bit hazy after the seventh pint. I've got the chafing, sure enough.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-04-20 7:41:34 AM|| 2004-04-20 7:41:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 In case you get the 'shirks'...

The Jihad's's Fundamentalist Phrasebook

Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-20 8:01:40 AM|| 2004-04-20 8:01:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 They could have added a 7th crime of the Muslim rulers, namely, they 'consume mass quantities' and 'enjoy the moons of mikzor'.

Posted by mhw 2004-04-20 8:11:04 AM|| 2004-04-20 8:11:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 They commit shirk by committing sarf and âataf

I let a massive sarf yesterday. I really should avoid refried beans for lunch. And after I had some asparagus for dinner my 'ataf had the oddest smell...

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-04-20 8:28:17 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-04-20 8:28:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 My posting ended with the sixth item. Everything after that was added by someone else.

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-04-20 9:01:48 AM|| 2004-04-20 9:01:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Farting contest - a Muslim sacrament? I must convert.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-20 9:10:29 AM|| 2004-04-20 9:10:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 This is the thanks we get from Houndouras for allowing in their illegal immigrants and allowing them to send money back home to prop us that 3rd world shithole. Same for Mexico which never even sent troops or help to Iraq and undermined us in the UN on Iraq votes.

Posted by Anonymous4353 2004-04-20 10:40:12 AM|| 2004-04-20 10:40:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 A glossary for us bean-eating midgets with funny pants:

SAW Acronym for Arabic "Salla Allahu alaihi Wa Sallam". It means "peace be upon him", but it is used when referring to Prophet Muhammad(SAW).

SWT This is the Acronym for "Subhanahu wa ta'ala" meaning "Allah is pure of having partners and He is exalted from having a son."

("swt" explains a bit about the weird sexual hangups of that whole cult)

http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php

Posted by Carl in N.H 2004-04-20 12:43:25 PM|| 2004-04-20 12:43:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 declaring a person to be Kafir

KAFIR? Liquefied yogurt?

Is that what happened to those jokers fiddling with rocket launchers when the Apache Helecopter blew them away?

Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-20 12:56:15 PM|| 2004-04-20 12:56:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 actually the apparently bizarre mixture of English and Arabic makes sense for a discussion of Muslim law/theology (though this particular discussion is wahabi-jihadi-loony and not approved by all Muslims)

In discussions of a non-western religious legal tradition, there are inevitably phrases that dont translate well. Example - "While I am sure the Orthodox will never sanction gay unions, I fully expect that the Conservatives will Posek that some form of gay union is acceptable, but wont consider it I>Kiddushin
and to get there they'll have to drash the Tanaach in ways that the Orthodox would not consider Kosher. .

And that would be from a purely English speaking background. And Im NOT using some of the more technical terms, which I cant recall off the top of my head. AMong the ultraorthodox, who tend to come from a Yiddish speaking background, they tend to discourse on Jewish legal matters in whats called "Yeshivash" - probably about 30% Hebrew/Aramaic legal terms, about 30% yiddish, and the rest English. Utterly incomrehensible, I find it.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-04-20 1:19:15 PM|| 2004-04-20 1:19:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 The Gettysburg address, Yeshivash

YESHIVISH TRANSLATION
Be'erech a yoivel and a half ago, the meyasdim shtelled avek on this makom a naiya malchus with the kavana that no one should have bailus over their chaver, and on this yesoid that everyone has the zelba zchusim. We're holding by a geferliche machloikes being machria if this medina, or an andere medina made in the same oifen and with the same machshovos, can have a kiyum. We are all mitztaref on the daled amos where a chalois of that machloikes happened in order to be mechabed the soldiers who dinged zich with each other. We are here to be koiveia chotsh a chelek of that karka as a kever for the bekavodike soldiers who were moiser nefesh and were niftar to give a chiyus to our nation. Yashrus is mechayev us to do this... Lemaise, hagam the velt won't be goires or machshiv what we speak out here, it's zicher not shayach for them to forget what they tued uf here. We are mechuyav to be meshabed ourselves to the melocha in which these soldiers made a haschala--that vibalt they were moiser nefesh for this eisek, we must be mamash torud in it--that we are all mekabel on ourselves to be moisif on their peula so that their maisim should not be a bracha levatulla-- that Hashem should give the gantze oilam a naiya bren for cheirus-- that a nation that shtams by the oilam, by the oilam, by the oilam, will blaib fest ahd oilam.

As an example
"that Hashem(God) should give the gantze oilam (the whole world) a naiya bren ( a new "burn" IE a new birth) for cheirus (freedom)"

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-04-20 1:26:11 PM|| 2004-04-20 1:26:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 shirk -- apostasy
tawheed -- the oneness of Allah
deen -- belief ("spirit of belief" might be better)
takfeer -- denouncing someone as a kafir. "excommunicating"
As-Sarf is where sorcery is used to make someone, who is liked, become hated.
Al-Ataf is where sorcery is used to make someone, who is disliked, be liked.
tasdeeq -- affirmation
takdheeb -- disbelief, declaring something that is agreed upon to be false, denial
aqeedah -- The firm creed that one's heart is fixed upon without any wavering or doubt. It excludes any supposition, doubt or suspicion.

I used Google to put this together. There is a lot of thoughtcrime in Wahhabism. Use at your own discretion, kafir.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-04-20 1:53:07 PM|| 2004-04-20 1:53:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I'll stick with the bean soup.

Posted by Fred 2004-04-20 2:23:50 PM|| 2004-04-20 2:23:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 This sounds like reaally bad sci-fi.

"Fraz, Mahmoud! You know it is shirk to covet the sacred Fiznack of Ebnzir! Now we must buzit the deen, or the Blens of Morglar will karf us with zim-zim!"

Posted by Cthulhu Akbar 2004-04-20 3:12:38 PM|| 2004-04-20 3:12:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 how come there no hiaku in korun

Posted by HalfEmpty 2004-04-20 8:40:43 PM|| 2004-04-20 8:40:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 'Murtad' - is that anything like Marklar.

Posted by A Jackson 2004-04-20 11:59:03 PM|| 2004-04-20 11:59:03 PM|| Front Page Top

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