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2011-09-30 Arabia
Al Awaki is dead, as reported from Arabia
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Posted by  2011-09-30 08:32|| || Front Page|| [18 views ]  Top

#1 Awlaki was married with five children wives..
Posted by American Delight 2011-09-30 09:09|| http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/  2011-09-30 09:09|| Front Page Top

#2 I hope the jackals got there first and ate him.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2011-09-30 11:16||   2011-09-30 11:16|| Front Page Top

#3 Congratulations, drone zappers!

Ulululululululululululu!!!
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-09-30 11:29||   2011-09-30 11:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Al Wacked!
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-09-30 11:29||   2011-09-30 11:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Ron Paul condemned the killing.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-09-30 11:42||   2011-09-30 11:42|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree with Paul. Do YOU want Barak Obama deciding if YOU (through executive decree) are to be executed?

By the way, I'm glad the worthless POS is dood! I just take exception to the process.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-09-30 12:18||   2011-09-30 12:18|| Front Page Top

#7 What I want to know is where is JUSTICE when we need him?
JUSTICE! Bring out your dead!

Al (The frozen, not the wacky)
Posted by Frozen Al 2011-09-30 12:42||   2011-09-30 12:42|| Front Page Top

#8 I understand Besoeker's point. A policy that allows a president to target an American citizen with a drone-zap is potential trouble.

al-Awlaki is a traitor and scum. I have no problem zapping him precisely because he's a traitor and because he's worked so hard to insulate himself from the normal ways we'd deal with traitors.

But there is precedent here, and an unscrupulous president could use said precedent to target other Americans.

Just saying, let's all be careful what we wish for.
Posted by Steve White 2011-09-30 14:06||   2011-09-30 14:06|| Front Page Top

#9 How about "If you make war against Americans, you die. No exceptions."
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-09-30 14:10||   2011-09-30 14:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Burn in this life (for a second or two), burn in hell.

Karma.
Posted by Barbara 2011-09-30 14:21||   2011-09-30 14:21|| Front Page Top

#11 " How about 'If you make war against Americans, you die. No exceptions.'"

Works for me, EP.
Posted by Barbara 2011-09-30 14:23||   2011-09-30 14:23|| Front Page Top

#12  " How about 'If you make war against Americans, you die. No exceptions.'" Works for me, EP.
Posted by: Barbara

Ok for some. Others go on to become university professors, write leftest books, live in Chicago brownstones, and back Manchu-Candidate presidential hopefuls.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-09-30 16:42||   2011-09-30 16:42|| Front Page Top

#13 I agree with Steve White about this could become a slippery slope. Remember just a few months ago when the Department of Homeland Security came out with a list of possible suspicious groups -- and all of them were conservative groups.
Posted by Slindsey 2011-09-30 19:20||   2011-09-30 19:20|| Front Page Top

#14 Trusting Obama to get it right, even once, is very difficult but Ron Paul can be naive. I reluctantly have to agree with this one Obama policy. They are not entitled to Due Process as enemy combatants in a war, openly rejecting their country as traitors and are not heads of state/political leaders protected from assassination. Read Malkin's article on Samir Khan--she has such a way with words and so logical:

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/09/30/second-u-s-jihadi-reportedly-killed-in-drone-attack-plus-refresher-course-on-american-bloggers-vs-samir-khan/



Excerpt:

As Rusty (Shacleford/JAWA) put it after digesting Khan’s manifesto:

This makes two Americans who are in charge of al Qaeda media — Adam Gadahn in Pakistan/Afghanistan for their as Sahab label and Samir Khan in Yemen for the English side of their al Malahein label.

This should drive home the point that the global jihad is not an Arab or a Pakistani problem. Violent jihad is not only being imported from these countries, but we are now exporting the future leaders of the jihad.

Think about that for awhile.

For those who have serious reservations about targeting American citizens using drones, I wonder if this changes anything for you? Does that fact that Khan openly and gleefully admits that he is a traitor change your mind? Or do you still think that people like Khan, Adam Gadahn, and Anwar al-Awlaki can’t be targeted due to some overriding principle of “justice” only happening within the confines of US courts?

Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2011-09-30 19:26||   2011-09-30 19:26|| Front Page Top

#15 my question is was there a mechanism to revoke his citizenship? if so why was it not used long ago so that this dronezap was just another jihadi scum and not a step down the slippery slope of targeted killings against Americans?

good riddance to bad garbage, but the residue of a dangerous precedent is bothersome.
Posted by abu do you love 2011-09-30 19:32||   2011-09-30 19:32|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm with Ron Paul and Besoeker. I don't like the idea of of POTUS doing things to Americans without due process.

And there is a reason bills of attainder are prohibited NOT in the Bill of Rights, but in Article 1 and NOT only for the federal government but for the states as well, one of the few limitations on the states that does not result from federal supremacy. The founders knew that laws that don't apply to every one are a bad idea.

Remember this is President Fast & Furious.

No doubt this guy is a traitor and would be found guilty of treason in a trial by his peers. But would you be in favor of him being drone-zapped in CONUS at the whim of POTUS? If not, why should OCONUS make such a huge difference, especially when he could have been snatched?

Bush made a mistake with Padilla and teh w0n has made a mistake here. Being an American citizen should mean something, especially when you are guilty. Citizenship has been devalued by this assassination.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-09-30 19:54||   2011-09-30 19:54|| Front Page Top

#17 Oreilly just rightfully gave the credit to the CIA and military for a fine job, which have been given the authority to take the hunt to terrorists, wherever they may be found. Obama can't take credit for this. Maybe we should thank W, too. Although Obama rules by decree/executive order, he could not target a domestic citizen by drone zap and hope patriotic citizens will fire on their own. We do have checks and balances, even if it only the conscience and sense of honor of those serving. But then most in the admin don't seem to have a clue. It makes me shudder to think what Obummer, DoJ. and Homeland Insecurity could do to terrorize innocent citizens but after this Gunwalker, good folk will be diligent and demand more accountability.
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2011-09-30 20:23||   2011-09-30 20:23|| Front Page Top

#18 Let's remember this is still in effect -

S.J.RES.23 -- Authorization for Use of Military Force (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)

--S.J.Res.23--

S.J.Res.23

One Hundred Seventh Congress

of the

United States of America

AT THE FIRST SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday,

the third day of January, two thousand and one

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Whereas, on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and

Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad; and

Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence; and

Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States; and

Whereas, the President has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force'.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-09-30 22:27||   2011-09-30 22:27|| Front Page Top

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