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...Jubeir tried to assure Americans that Saudi Arabia had tried its best to rescue Johnson from his captors, who said they would kill Johnson if hundreds of Al Qaeda members in Saudi jails were not released. A three-day deadline was set last week after his kidnapping. "The people of Saudi Arabia are outraged by the cruel and cold-blooded murder of this innocent man," Jubeir said. He said that 15,000 Saudi security personnel had been involved in the search for Johnson, whose body was found in a Riyadh suburb. On Friday, photos of his beheaded corpse were posted on the Internet by his killers. Meanwhile, Crown Prince Abdullah blamed Israel for the execution. Speaking to Saudi television, he said, "Zionism is behind it. It has become clear now. It has become clear to us. I don't say, I mean... It is not 100 percent, but 95 percent that the Zionist hands are behind what happened." Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef said, "Al-Qaida is backed by Israel and Zionism, " and a Saudi official in the US argued that Zionists and others who argue for regime change in Saudi Arabia "share the same objective as Osama bin Laden." When faced with the choice between the bottle in front of him and a frontal lobotomy, it is quite obvious which option he took. Good Muslims don't drink alcohol. I think Nayef rode to school on the short camel.
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#1 No difference between Abdullah and Antisemite, is there?
Posted by BMN 2004-06-22 9:01:47 AM||
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#2 This seems to be a dark day for the Al Qaeda movement in Saudi Arabia. Crown Prince I.B. Dull-uhh and Prince Nayef now in agreement on something that everyone in SA can unite behind - ridding themselves of the Zionists.
It's simple, yet effective. Al Qaeda is the Zionists.
Posted by B 2004-06-22 9:09:57 AM||
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#3 Reading this piece and trying to understand the mental processes of these great princes is the literary equivalent of severe vertigo.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-22 10:23:31 AM||
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#4 Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef said, "Al-Qaida is backed by Israel and Zionism, " and a Saudi official in the US argued that Zionists and others who argue for regime change in Saudi Arabia "share the same objective as Osama bin Laden."
This brain-dead moron is actually in contention for the Saudi throne?
Does anyone else get the impression that the Saudi royals are like the Tsarist House of Romanov with bin Laden playing the role of mad monk Rasputin? (There's even a slight resemblance too.)
The depths of selfdeception that Arab leadership will cheerfully sink to goes beyond credibility. So long as they can torture out of their twisted logic some sort of conclusion that avoids even a hint of self-blame, it's no-holds-barred.
The Saudi royals are sinking into a morass of insane finger-pointing and squabbling while their kingdom is shredding itself against reality's jagged rocks. If this was some backwater tinpot dictatorship (which it would be without any oil) all of this would be comically hilarious.
Instead, we are treated to some of the most deluded self-induced hallucinatory lunacy that is rivaled only by Joseph Goebble's Nazi propaganda machine. I'm beginning to suspect whatever disease that the royals have (syphillis, microencephaly, tertiary necropsis of the patella ...), it is most definitely terminal.
It is simply surreal to watch grown adults indulge in the abject denial of reality. I'm beginning to think that America needs to create its own propaganda films to counter such drivel as "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."
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#5 Is it possible that this is meant for local consumption? Abdullah thinks this is the only way to get the masses of brainwashed Saudis to oppose AQ? Im not sure, but I do think Abdullah understands that AQ is not Zionist.
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#6 Considering the amount of funding AQ receives from Saudi royalty, I'm sure he's aware of it.
Posted by Zenster 2004-06-22 10:47:43 AM||
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#8 This is obviously a disgusting thing for this moron to say but his reasoning might make sense. He knows his country is filled with anti-semites so he's trying to turn them against al-queda by associating al-queda with jews. I don't think he really believes what he's saying... but you never know.
Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-06-22 11:05:11 AM||
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#9 Meanwhile, Crown Prince Abdullah blamed Israel for the execution. Speaking to Saudi television, he said, "Zionism is behind it...
This is just beyond belief.
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#10 Interesting theory y'all. It would explain why supposedly intelligent men would make such inane statements.
Posted by virginian 2004-06-22 11:08:30 AM||
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#11 microencephaly
Mr. Z - I vote for that one!
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#12 If he stopped mentionoing Israel and just villified the Zionists I could go with that. Perhaps the term Zionists would eventually morph in peoples minds to mean Al Queda instead of the Jews. Sort of the way Liberal once meant a free-trading low taxation type and now it means the opposite.
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#20 5% signal / 95% noise...
Your political leanings aside, .com, I still find that estimate to be rather liberal.
Posted by Zenster 2004-06-22 12:51:38 PM||
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#21 Oh yeah? Lol! You're prolly right regards Abdullah...
Posted by .com 2004-06-22 12:57:05 PM||
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#22 So what's the plan if Saudi oil goes off line?
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#23 AP - Seriously?
Some Options - Strategic Reserves (Now aren't you glad Bush isn't listening to the dumber-than-a-brick Skeery?), Other suppliers will try to step up to max to cash in on price, but most are at or near max now - cashing in, doncha know.
Questions - Damage: How bad / how long? Who did it? (i.e. are Royals complicit?) If Royals go at it against each other then Army vs Nat'l Guard melee begins. CP Abdullah controls NG (Shammar Clan) / Nayef (Sudairi Clan) controls Army. Approx evenly matched. Sooooo many variables depend on who...
Timeframe - When? Today, 6 months, 12 months... determines how many US & UK boots might be free...
Ooooo! So much data, so few specifics, lol!
Posted by .com 2004-06-22 1:24:47 PM||
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#24 Bingo, Zenster. If the Royals can only blame Jews for AQ and the British Saudi dissidents, it is a dark day indeed for the MK. Even smart Saudis (and there are more than a few) must see the fakiness of this so-called domestic strategy by linking AQ and Jews. Time for W and friends to think of worst case scenarios.
Those of us who have shared the economic slivers of gold in the Kingdom know that expecting its leaders to promote parliamentary democracy and the rule of law would be too much. But, at least, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect them to recognize that the world has changed since Sept. 11?
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#26 Soddy unlike Iraq has never been secular - in fact it is the opposite spectrum. Iraq will have a much more easier time to transition into democracy (at least a ME version of it) that Soddy will ever achieve - revolution or evolution. Iraq probably next to Eygpt and Lebanon has the largest educated professional class in all of the ME - doctors, lawyers, engineers etc. Plus it has oil and water (bigger than oil in the ME)and the foundations for building a democracy. Soddy has none of this but a theocratic monarchy built on clan culture, too much money, too much free time, lazy ambition and living in denial.
#27 Sorry, Muslim brothers, we are going to hold you to the meaning in your words.
AMER HERITAGE: Zionist
n. An organized movement of world Jewry for the reconstitution of a Jewish state in Palestine, now concerned with supporting the state of Israel.
In our time, there is a state of Israel, so, basically Zionism is about ensuring the continuation of the state of Israel.
So, foreign contractors were killed by people ensuring the continuation of the state of Israel? Which people, Saudi Arabia? You mean your "friend" the US? Name names, buy a vowel, or STFU.
Incidentally, I have seen a number of commentators on the BBC blogsite contrast being anti-Semitic with anti-Zionist, as if one acceptable and the other not. Both are reprehensible. One can support both the legitimacy of Israel and the the creation of a Palestinian state. If our fellow lefty-bloggers are really for treating people fairly and equally, let's quit cutting people slack when they justify anti-Zionism; if you are against Israel, you are against the people in Israel.
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#28 The only thing wrong with Zionism is that it's mainly a Jooooooooo thing.
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#29 These statements are strong evidence of the depth of panic of the Saudi royals. The end is upon them and they don't have a clue how to prevent it. When you're reduced to calling the "insurgents" Zionists, you're pathetic. My guess is that there are a lot of scenarios being dusted off and updated at both CENTCOM and the Pentagon. The only real question is before or after November.
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#30 If al Quaeda really wants to tip over the Saudi applecart, it won't attack the oil industry, it will start blowing up desalinization and wastewater recycling plants. If you look at Saudi population growth, you will find that it correlates nicely with the increase in water supply brought about through use desalinization and wastewater recycling. You want to see the Arab street seethe - take away their drinking water.
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#31 all saudi royal family members, close your eyes and repeat after me; "the sky is not falling, the sky is not falling, everyone loves and adores us, open rebellion is not upon us, the sky is not falling. feel better? no? well at least you can still blame your troubles on the J-O-O-O-O-O-S! have a nice day.
#35 Spirochete. Rantburg word of the day...now I get it. Bwahahahhahh!
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#36 As funny as that mental image is, doesn't it assume that Crown Princess Abdullah /has/ a brain, much less two whole brain cells? I mean, 2 brain cells is giving him alot of credit.
#37 And I am almost 100% convinced that the UN's black helicopters, flown by Illuminati pilots trained at a secret North Pole base, have made contact with Mason agents within Saudi Arabia to frame the Zionists for this one, when in reality all they did was cart a couple of death rays over the border.
Just when I thought the Saudis couldn't get any more laughable . . . this would make great comedy if so many people weren't dying because of it.
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#38 Nah, doc. They'll blame them for the Korean guy.
Posted by tu3031 2004-06-22 7:39:22 PM||
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#39 If he stopped mentionoing Israel and just villified the Zionists I could go with that. Perhaps the term Zionists would eventually morph in peoples minds to mean Al Queda instead of the Jews
The last time Abdullah used the term, it was a slur directed against Nayef and his faction. This time, who knows? Maybe it is a deflect-and-blame.
CP Abdullah controls NG (Shammar Clan) / Nayef (Sudairi Clan) controls Army. Approx evenly matched.
Don't forget that the KSA Air Force still has a good portion of its F-15s on the western side of the Kingdom, away from Ridyadh. And there's the KSA navy. Still plenty of Harpoons in their inventory...
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#40 think there's no backdoors programmed in, Pappy?
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
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