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2004-10-05 Arabia
US Should Stop Wars and Give Peace a Chance
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Posted by JerseyMike 2004-10-05 09:03|| || Front Page|| [12 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Bad link.

That said, I think we're trying to stop wars.

We just need to kill the enemy faster.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-10-05 10:19:51 AM||   2004-10-05 10:19:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Wars Work" - An unpleasant fact of life.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-10-05 10:30:05 AM||   2004-10-05 10:30:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Here is the article, My guess is they can't figure out that dropping skyscrapers, blowing up
embassies and beheading innocents has anything to do with it.

The often-heard complaint from the Western world is that the entire Muslim community does not condemn the acts of violence that are being perpetrated today in the name of Islam. No matter how many times Muslim organizations or Muslim states condemn terrorist acts committed by militants who do not represent the majority of the Muslim world the Western media does not convey these condemnations to the readers. As a result the public is kept uninformed and continues to perceive all Muslims as enemies and a threat to the Western world. Every Muslim today is being blamed for the crimes of a minority whose acts are rejected and abhorred by the majority of Muslims adhering to the true principles of Islam. There is no true Muslim in the world that condones the acts of the terrorists who claim to be followers of the faith. The fact is Muslims are a peaceful people who have been victimized in the past and are being demonized today.

The media in the US and the West claims that the entire Muslim community remains silent and indifferent to the violence that is being committed by a deviant minority in the name of Islam. That is far from the truth. Muslims all over the world have condemned and condemned over and over again through official statements by governmental and nongovernmental organizations. The media and satellite channels in the Muslim world continue to air programs that express the views of the majority of the public that condemn terrorist acts and reject the extremist views of militants in the Muslim world. Religious scholars and spiritual leaders continue to preach tolerance and give guidance to Muslim youth who remain devastated and disappointed in the whole world — disappointed in their leaders who have allowed them to be humiliated; disappointed in the injustices committed against their people while the whole world watches; disappointed in the international legal system that is inactive; and above all disappointed by the actions of the few that has tarnished their image and has given Islam a bad name.

The conflict in the Middle East, the war on terror and the clash of civilizations have been the focus of the media since the Sept. 11 2001 attacks against the US. The biased views and analyses as well as the negative coverage against all Muslims continue to fuel the West’s sentiments against the Muslim community. Of the many articles that I have read there is one that I believe has summarized the whole situation clearly and gives a lot of justice to the demonized Muslims of today.

The author of the article that I am referring to is the British writer Patrick Seale. I will conclude with an extract of his analysis.

“But events have shown that military means alone are unable to quell a shadowy, stateless organization such as Al-Qaeda or a nationalist insurgency such as the US is battling in Iraq. No effective strategy for either type of conflict has yet been devised by the US. Instead, Bush’s doctrine of preventive war — which favors armed intervention over containment and seeks to impose America’s will unilaterally — has driven a coach and horses through international legality. It has estranged some of America’s main European allies, triggering a crisis in trans-Atlantic relations, which will take years to heal. It has also enraged the Muslim world.

At the heart of America’s failure lies the administration’s refusal to recognize that the contemporary roots of Islamic terror are to be found in American policies. ...senior American officials — and particularly the neoconservative ‘friends’ of Israel among them — angrily reject any such link. For them, hostility to the US is the product of backward Muslim societies, failed states and an inherently violent religion. It has nothing to do, they argue, with America’s wars or Israel’s brutal occupation. More effort should be made, they say, explaining American values to Muslim opinion! The committee investigating the Sept. 11 attacks recommended that the US government provide much larger resources to support broadcasts to Muslim audiences, rebuild scholarship and exchange programs, help fight high illiteracy in the Middle East, do more to encourage economic development and trade — in fact do every thing except change American policies!

Not only is this approach fundamentally wrong headed, but it provides the US with an alibi for not addressing the ‘roots of terror’ — that is to say the anger, desperation and rampant political grievance which cause men and women to want to hit back against their tormentors, even at the cost of their lives. For example, instead of stopping Israel’s infamous wall and its expanding settlements — as it alone could do — the US is doing the exact opposite!”

Every Muslim today is of the writer’s opinion that calls for reassessment and change in US policies toward the Middle East. Efforts to prevent terrorism should address the root causes of conflicts that are enraging innocent civilians in the Muslim world.

Patrick Seale is one of many writers with a conscience. Pat Buchanan, Robert Fisk, Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Jonathan Power, Linda Heard, and other Western writers have been advocates of peace and are brave enough to speak out in defense of the Muslim world. However a lot more needs to be done to stop the increasing prejudice against Muslims in the West that is threatening world peace.

America please listen. No more wars. Give peace a chance.


Posted by JerseyMike 2004-10-05 10:56:36 AM||   2004-10-05 10:56:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 "Efforts to prevent terrorism should address the root causes of conflicts that are enraging innocent civilians in the Muslim world."

And Thailand's part in the Middle East conflict for which the muslim terrorist are killing Thais is?
Posted by Don 2004-10-05 11:13:44 AM||   2004-10-05 11:13:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 There's no pathetic, excuse-making whiner like an Arab: try googling the phrase, "1.2 billion helpless Muslims" and see what comes up.

If these worthless shitheads would put just half the effort into fixing their ailing, sick-puppy culture that they put into complaining about how unfair we're being to them, the world would be a paradise.
Posted by Dave D. 2004-10-05 11:27:34 AM||   2004-10-05 11:27:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 If Mormons, Scientologists, Branch Dividians, fans of Justin Timberlake or the KKK were beheading "non believers" or creating cowardly acts of chaos, America would find a way do more than "condemn" the perps.
Despite being a democratic culture, the will of the majority would come down hard in defense of civilization. Clash of civilizations? No, it is a clash of Civilization versus Barbarians.
Pick your side, "billions of peace lovers", and stop whining. Until Islams billions reign in their fanatics, the task is left up to "infidels".
Posted by Capsu78 2004-10-05 12:36:12 PM||   2004-10-05 12:36:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Justin Timberlake has fans?
Posted by Fred  2004-10-05 12:38:04 PM||   2004-10-05 12:38:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 War is to liberals as sex is to ultra-conservatives - denial of human nature.

The liberals who attempt to cling to the 60's "what if you had a war and no one showed up" is as brain crushingly stupid as the idea that you can stop prostitution or drugs by just saying no.

Jersey Mike...go join your Salvation Army protests and bang a drum. You look just as stupid.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-05 12:50:27 PM||   2004-10-05 12:50:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 That was the article JM posted, not his opinion.
Posted by Fred  2004-10-05 1:01:31 PM||   2004-10-05 1:01:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 :-0 oops...I guess it's clear I only read the last paragraph...sorry jm..I should have known you wouldn't say that.

time to log off
Posted by 2b 2004-10-05 1:03:41 PM||   2004-10-05 1:03:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 2b - suggest you not insult Ethel as well.... ;-)
Posted by Frank G  2004-10-05 1:08:22 PM||   2004-10-05 1:08:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Islam sounds like John Kerry.

Bring it On!

Stop, stop you're hurting me, give peace a chance!
Posted by RJ Schwarz 2004-10-05 1:20:47 PM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-10-05 1:20:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 US Should Stop Wars and Give Peace a Chance

How about we just give nuclear fuel to oil rich countries, in return for PEACE?
Posted by Poison Reverse 2004-10-05 2:18:09 PM||   2004-10-05 2:18:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 now our enemies have had the last 25 years to fight agaisnt us...it is only fair we get a few years to return the favor...
Posted by Dan 2004-10-05 2:23:40 PM||   2004-10-05 2:23:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Samar, habibti, let's not beat around the boosh

1. What is your definition of terrorist acts? Do Zarqawi bombings in Iraq constitute terrorism?

2. Have you read the Chritian Science Monitor article posted yesterday on why 3 free thinkers (as their "crimes" are so petty, I won't even dignify them as "dissidents") are rotting behind bars?

3. Have Arab govts. done enough to change policies so that discussions without fear can take place in al-watan al-arab?

4. Did you attend the conference in Jeddah re how the Arab/Muslim world needs to influence and bamboozle outsiders so they see you as victims?

5. Do you really think that the US has not changed its policies toward your part of the planet?

For 1, you roundly condemn terrorism and you plead with us to understand that your country and other Muslim countries condemn it also. What, however, if you believe it's OK to kill infidels in the name of jihad and THAT is not terrorism but legitimate resistance? BTW, I'm so glad that the preachers who speak in front of the Kaaba on Fridays are moderate in their approach.
If your answer to second part of 1 is yes, then the govt. of Algeria is responsible for the more than 100,000 deaths that have taken place since 1992 in that Godforsaken land. Plus these deaths are justifiable. You know, suppression breeds violence and all that. Then you also have to believe that the bombings and violence in the MK are also justified. You know, humiliation breeds hate and all that. What other methods do the suppressed have if delegitimizing means of expression are part and parcel of the political landscape or your region?

For 2, Your fellow citizens languishing in the slammer would no doubt see the irony in your blaming the Great Satan and its Zionist entity buddy for problems in your region. I imagine they don't blame the usual suspects for their enforced stay; rather, they blame Prince Naive, the Min. of Interior. What bombs and bullets have their fingerprints? Fingerprints are only on their pens.

For 3, if you answer no, be pro-active and make sure that you revise your commentary so it reads like a look- into-the-mirror piece. Send it to Okaz or Medinah Arabic lang. papers. Then pack your bags and get ready for a stay behind bars. If you dare.

For 4, if you did, then you paid entirely too much attention (and money) on the drivel that participants were spouting. You also spout only drivel. Pure template. "The Other is the cause of my misery." Why didn't you just look up one of Chomsky's articles and save money?

For 5, the US has turned a new leaf in its policies toward ME. You folks have remained inert. It's called cerebral calcification and your public figures, just like the Left here, can only function in this state. I can only hope Boosh, Rummy, Wolfy, Condi, and Cheney come out on top to finish the changes. If not, then don't worry about a thing. The State Dept. may even have you visit the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave on its own nickel to scold us for our insensitivity.
Posted by chicago mike  2004-10-05 3:22:41 PM||   2004-10-05 3:22:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Ethel is Salvation Army?
Posted by Shipman 2004-10-05 3:36:05 PM||   2004-10-05 3:36:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 ...senior American officials — and particularly the neoconservative ‘friends’ of Israel among them — angrily reject any such link. For them, hostility to the US is the product of backward Muslim societies, failed states and an inherently violent religion...

No, hostility to the US is due to many Muslims' fixation on finding a savior for a leader, rather than promoting non-religious leadership qualities in each individual in the societies. When they seek saviors in suicide bombers, jihadi executioners, and Wahabi governments and their lives don't change for the better, they become filled with envy, shame, and a propensity for finding scapegoats.
Posted by jules 187 2004-10-05 3:58:17 PM||   2004-10-05 3:58:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Post hoc, propter hoc -
"after the fact, therefore because of the fact".
Posted by mojo  2004-10-05 4:05:37 PM||   2004-10-05 4:05:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 who ever wrote this crap needs too be beheaded
Posted by smokeysinse 2004-10-05 4:58:13 PM||   2004-10-05 4:58:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Dear Arab News:

Eat, shit and die!

Signed,

Buns of Steel
Posted by Capt America  2004-10-05 7:16:30 PM||   2004-10-05 7:16:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Brave Jihadi's always look for an out when they're getting their asses kicked. "Look for the root causes" is right up there at the top of the list.
Posted by tu3031 2004-10-05 8:19:39 PM||   2004-10-05 8:19:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 I pulled up behind a car with California tags and the bumper sticker "War is not the answer". I have to agree - war isn't the answer, if there's a choice. But as I said on my blog, we didn't start this war. We were attacked, not once, but over and over. We finally have a president that understands that if we don't do something about these attacks, they will continue. It takes all sides to wage peace - it only takes one side to wage war. The only alternative to defending ourselves is surrender, and that's not a very good things, even for baby ducks and small kittens.

IF the Arabs want peace, they must learn to act in peace. If they continue to follow that idiotic cult of the crazy 7th century pedophile they have elevated to someone holy, then they may find life getting very difficult for them in the coming years.

Posted by Old Patriot  2004-10-05 11:02:30 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-10-05 11:02:30 PM|| Front Page Top

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