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2016-09-27 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Donald Trump's strange speaking style, as explained by linguists
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Posted by gorb 2016-09-27 00:03|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 More spitting elitism from the chattering classes. They just can't stop themselves from being hateful. It feels so good to do.
Posted by Thumper Dribble5791 2016-09-27 04:00||   2016-09-27 04:00|| Front Page Top

#2 The New Class is running scared (because they know that on a level playing field most of them would be manual laborers). IMO, there is no limit to what they'll be willing to do to keep power --- we are moving into the territory where InfoWars is sane and insightful.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-09-27 04:29||   2016-09-27 04:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Here is what Plumpudding (Pullum) says about Americans:

“American bigots, whenever you have any criticism of America, like to say: if you don’t like it, you can leave. So I want to say, if you don’t like Standard English the way it is, talk sump’in else. Don’t mess with our language. If you don’t like it, sod off. Talk French.”
Posted by Willy 2016-09-27 04:54||   2016-09-27 04:54|| Front Page Top

#4 The Cambridge Union (debating) society awards honorary memberships to 'particularly distinguished individuals.' Among those memberships are listed:

The Most Rev Desmond Tutu
Professor Stephen Hawking
Rev Jesse Jackson Sr.
His Excellency Frederik Willem de Klerk

So much for speaking style. But as a lowly 'deplorable' who am I to say?
Posted by Besoeker 2016-09-27 05:30||   2016-09-27 05:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Why Trump’s speeches are incomprehensible to some -- and make perfect sense to others

The crowds he draws at political rallies seem to have little trouble understanding him. Because he is often unscripted he seems authentic and down to earth. People are tired of mealy-mouthed politicians lying to you, whoring for votes and then when elected screwing up the country beyond belief.
Posted by JohnQC 2016-09-27 06:48||   2016-09-27 06:48|| Front Page Top

#6 DJT's drifting off into stream-of-consciousness musings can be quite distracting and makes it appear that, at least in debate context, he is dodging the question.

Life would be better for him if he could find a way to express his first-hand knowledge of the zeitgeist without constantly referencing his properties. He comes across as bragging, something we learn early in life is (mostly) undesirable in association.
Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-09-27 10:24||   2016-09-27 10:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Lackoff's expertise is in the way language is used to evoke indirectly. He's right about trump.

VRWC is also right - outside of NY/NJ Trump comes across as defensive and boastful at the same time. And while that worked to shout down primary opponents, it gives pause to people who wonder of he's really got the discipline to be given the nuclear codes - especially because he doesn't deem able to admit even to himself when he is wrong or lacks knowledge.
Posted by Zebulon and Tenille2425 2016-09-27 11:54||   2016-09-27 11:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Nobody appreciated braggadocious?
Posted by swksvolFF 2016-09-27 12:33||   2016-09-27 12:33|| Front Page Top

#9 
Or when Trump keeps calling Clinton "crooked," or keeps referring to terrorists as "radical Muslims," he’s strengthening the association through repetition.


No -- he's stating the bald truth.

The clown who wrote this doesn't even inhabit the same world as the rest of us.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2016-09-27 15:20||   2016-09-27 15:20|| Front Page Top

#10 Rob Crawford, both.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-09-27 16:37||   2016-09-27 16:37|| Front Page Top

#11 And these same elites think Joyce's "Ulysses" is comprehensible writing.
Posted by glenmore in ny 2016-09-27 17:58||   2016-09-27 17:58|| Front Page Top

#12 Nope, glenmore, it's the king's new clothes thing.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-09-27 18:11||   2016-09-27 18:11|| Front Page Top

#13 Yes, swksvolFF, I appreciated braggadocious.

And I appreciate a guy who can make a speech without a teleprompter. I appreciate someone who can go off on tangents like Trump does and then when he's done with the tangent, finish speaking about the original train of thought. They don't think that's intellect? Maybe they're just not smart enough to follow it.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2016-09-27 19:07||   2016-09-27 19:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Trump's "oh by the way" reminds me of Monty Python's "And now to something completely different".
Posted by European Conservative 2016-09-27 19:21||   2016-09-27 19:21|| Front Page Top

#15 It may be an affected style,
It may be a behavioral trait of his role,
It may be organic from decades of celebration.

Who cares?
Posted by Skidmark 2016-09-27 23:56||   2016-09-27 23:56|| Front Page Top

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