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14 00:00 Elmomolet Sforza9640 [11148]
2 00:00 trailing wife [11139]
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Hague: 'Belligerent' Israel should tame its rhetoric
British Foreign Secretary William Hague on Wednesday warned that "belligerent" Israel should tame its rhetoric and said unrest in Arab countries may hinder the peace process.
"O is my basnet a widow's curch?
Or my lance the Wand o' the willow tree?
And is my hand a lady's lilly hand,
That this English lord dhimmi dog should lightly me?"

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Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/09/2011 02:33 || Comments || Link || [11148 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Should a future fully islamofascistic Egypt remilitarize Sinai in violation of treaty obligations Israel would be subjected to overwhelming diplomatic pressure to hold still.

The 'international community' has systematically delegitimized Israeli defense of any kind and will continue to do so.

Israel is expected to remain passive in the face of attacks on its own territory, so an Israeli military reaction to Egypt operating on Egyptian territory would not be well received.

The Camp David Accords might actually offer little security to Israel, at least in the current international political environment.
Posted by: Caesar Fleaque2608 || 02/09/2011 3:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, GOD Loves Israel, so maybe it's time for the big battle to get the world to walk the line again.
Posted by: newc || 02/09/2011 11:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, GOD Loves Israel, so maybe it's time for the big battle to get the world to walk the line again.

God helps those who help themselves, newc. Of course, it greatly helps Israel's survival that God gave her the Arabs (and Iranians) as enemies. The IDF has already begun moving units to the Sinai against future need, and they've altered their planning to assume another all-out war.

What Israel will need to do is to tell the British Foreign Secretary and all his little friends to shut the fuck up about matters that don't concern them. In English, so they'll be sure to understand.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/09/2011 12:42 Comments || Top||

#4  O were there war between the lands,
As well I wot that there is non ....


For now, at least.
Posted by: lotp || 02/09/2011 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Wow, tw.

You tell 'em! :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 02/09/2011 12:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Nah, tw. I think they should do it in Cockney for a more dramatic effect. ;)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 02/09/2011 13:29 Comments || Top||

#7  Si vis pacem, para bellum.
If that makes me belligerent, make the most of it!

Have the Brits forgotten the study of Latin, of Roman history, or even of their own history?
Posted by: Shereter Poodle9774 || 02/09/2011 15:04 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes they have.

And if you want to know more about it, read The Vichy Syndrome, by Theodore Dalrymple. It's a new book and Rantburgers will love it!
Posted by: Omolurong Ghibelline1929 || 02/09/2011 16:21 Comments || Top||

#9  If only to be surrounded by Israel's shiny-happy-neighbors. Couldn't get better.
Posted by: Goober Glearong9707 || 02/09/2011 19:55 Comments || Top||

#10  shut the fuck up

This is certainly a high-water mark - an utterance so far divorced from modern realities and so monumentally stupid as to cause our own tw to emit unlady-like curses. Well done, Mr. Hague; moronitude of the first water. Color me impressed! And yeah, what she said.
Posted by: SteveS || 02/09/2011 20:25 Comments || Top||

#11  Maybe, TW, we should be a bit more diplomatic to the Foreign Secretary, by saying, "sod off," instead of STFU. It's only good manners.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/09/2011 21:35 Comments || Top||

#12  Y'all are delightful and I adore you! I don't view strong language as unladylike or ungentlemanly, but simply as rhetorical reserve ammunition for the strongest circumstances. Which this is -- as someone said, they're trying to make it impossible for Israel to defend herself.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/09/2011 21:38 Comments || Top||

#13  finally, TW has sunk to my depths. Lotp next!
Posted by: Frank G || 02/09/2011 21:38 Comments || Top||

#14  Would this quote be applicable in respect to Israel?
Latin, it seems to have a subtlety of it's own, in getting to the point.

In pace, ut sapiens, aptarit idonea bello. In peace, like a wise man, he appropriately prepares for war.
Posted by: Elmomolet Sforza9640 || 02/09/2011 23:19 Comments || Top||


Cameron begins extremism crackdown, cash withheld from 'suspect groups'
Hattip g(r)omgoru.
  • Funding cut to Muslim bodies after PM speech
  • Steps to combat rise of radicalism in universities

    The government has already started to withdraw state cash from what it regards as suspect Islamist groups that had previously been funded to reach young Muslims at risk of being drawn to terrorist networks. New, tougher criteria are being applied, with hundreds of thousands of pounds being withdrawn from specific groups after it was deemed they were too soft on Islamic extremism.

    Ministers are also awaiting a report in the next fortnight from a Universities UK working group, which has been in preparation for a year, on how to combat Islamic extremism on university campuses.

    The working group, including eight vice-chancellors, was established in response to the arrest of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in the US for an attempted act of terrorism. Abdulmutallab studied at University College London between 2005 and 2008.

    The report is likely to call for greater rigour in the selection of speakers and stronger oversight of religious societies. University vice-chancellors have been accused by thinktanks such as Quilliam, a Muslim counter-extremist group, of being complacent about the radicalisation that is taking place in higher education.

    Today, it was being stressed by the government that David Cameron's call for a more "muscular liberalism" to combat home-grown terror, made in a speech in Munich on Saturday, was not simply rhetorical. It would lead to practical changes, including the wholesale review of the Prevent strategy set up by Labour.

    One outcome is likely to lead to a greater focus on specific areas where propagandists for terrorism are known to be operating, including community centres and gyms. There is also expected to be a clearer separation of resources to fight terrorism, and general community cohesion work.

    One government source said: "There is going to be a real shift in who we fund and who ministers share platforms with. It has already started. There used to be a view in the home office that the best way to engage dangerous people was through some people who were not themselves extremists, but shared much of their thinking . We think it is better to confront all forms of extremism -- the kind of people that support Jihad abroad, but say no Jihad here, or at least not now."

    The "British values" set out by Cameron in his speech -- freedom of speech, freedom of speech and equality between sexes -- will be the criteria by which the government will engage in future.

    Haras Rafiq, director of anti-extremist organisation Centri, said he fully supported the prime minister's call for a ban on the public funding of Muslim groups that did little to tackle extremism. He blamed some of the current misdirection of funds on failings by the Prevent programme, which has spent £53m on more than 1,000 counter-terrorism projects since it was set up in 2007 in the wake of the 7/7 London bombings.

    Rafiq said: "A lot of funding is going to groups that hold vile views that are not acceptable in a tolerant, liberal society like the UK. Some support suicide bombing, attacks on British troops in Iraq or Afghanistan and other forms of violent extremism, but they are supported by the government so long as they don't support violence in the UK -- even where they support unacceptable domestic policies like saying it's wrong for Muslims to vote or it's sinful for a woman to get into a taxi alone with a man she's not related to. But my biggest concern is that by funding and promoting fringe elements within British Muslim society, it is tarnishing the whole Muslim community."

    But Mohammed Shafiq of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim youth group, said Cameron had been "deeply irresponsible" to suggest that some publicly-funded groups did little to tackle extremism.

    "Where are these Muslim organisations that support extremism? I don't believe they exist, and if the prime minister believes otherwise he should have the confidence to name them." Farooq Murad, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said it was important to identify which groups Cameron had been referring to. "The MCB itself, though not in receipt of government funding, has consistently spoken in favour of British values that acknowledge universal human rights and pluralism," said Murad.

    No shadow ministers today followed shadow justice secretary, Sadiq Khan, in claiming David Cameron was involved in "writing propaganda for the EDL" on the day 3,000 English Defence League members held a rally in Luton. Yvette Cooper said Cameron was "unwise" not to have also criticised the EDL, but foreign secretary William Hague said a PM's speech should not be shelved "because some people have chosen to march down a street".
    Lemme know when Anjem Choudray "falls" in front of an Underground train. Then maybe I'll take this seriously.
    I'd settle for all his wives being taken off benefits and deported...
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  • Posted by: trailing wife || 02/09/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11139 views] Top|| File under:

    #1  Gracias, TW.
    Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/09/2011 2:54 Comments || Top||

    #2  De nada, g(r)omgoru. Actions speak louder than words, and it's very heartening to see necessary actions finally being taken.
    Posted by: trailing wife || 02/09/2011 12:45 Comments || Top||



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