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Arabia
Kuwaiti al Qaeda suspects get five-year jail terms
A Kuwaiti court handed down five-year jail terms today to four alleged al Qaeda members, including one accused of links to the attack on the U.S. warship Cole and a plot to bomb a hotel in Yemen. The judge said some of the charges against the four, all Kuwaitis, had been dropped, but neither court officials nor defence lawyers were able to say for which charges they had been convicted.
That was quick.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 10:01 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Abu Hamza Calls Shuttle Tragedy 'Sign From God'
A controversial British cleric drew criticism from moderate U.K. Muslims on Monday for describing the space shuttle Columbia disaster as a "sign from God" and the astronauts aboard as "criminals." Abu Hamza al-Masri, a firebrand radical wanted in Yemen on terror charges relating to the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000, told reporters that the space shuttle represented "a trinity of evil because it carried Americans, an Israeli and a Hindu." The cleric was referring specifically to Ilan Ramon, Israel's first astronaut, and Indian-born mission specialist Kalpana Chawla, a Hindu.
Yep. That must be the reason. Couldn't be anything else...
"The Muslim people see these pilots as criminals. By going into space they would have sharpened the accuracy of their bombs through satellites," al-Masri said. "These missions would increase the number of satellites for military purposes. It would increase the slavery of governance of other countries by America. It is a punishment from God."
If God concerned himself with such things, Abu Hamza would be a pillar of salt by now...
The cleric mentioned reports that the break-up of the spacecraft began above Palestine, Texas, which he sees as a "sign from God."
If it was over Palestine at 40 miles up, it was "over" Blanket, Bangs, and Commanche, Texas, too. I'm not too sure what that's a sign of, though, not being a theologian by training...
But Ghayasuddin Siddiqui, leader of the mainstream Muslim Parliament of Great Britain, dismissed al-Masri's comments as "lunacy" and said that British Muslims would be feeling sympathy for the dead astronauts and their families.
Mark your calendar: I believe this might mark the first use by a Muslim leader of the "L" word. And damned accurately, I might add...
"These people went to explore space and to learn more about it — this is how human knowledge progresses," he told CNSNews.com. "The people who died in this catastrophic accident will do down as great benefactors of humanity. They were courageous and bold."
And, we might add, better men than Abu Hamza ever was or will be. And that statement includes the women on board.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 12:17 pm || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [275 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Watch out Abu Hamza. Your little rant is bad Karma.............
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 12:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Watch out Abu Hamza. Your little rant is bad Karma.............
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 12:49 Comments || Top||

#3  May something heavy fall upon him from a great height.
Posted by: mojo || 02/03/2003 12:58 Comments || Top||


U.S. Soldier Is Shot in Germany
A U.S. soldier was seriously wounded by gunfire in southern Germany, police said Monday. Police said they had no leads on who fired the shots or the motive for the early morning attack on the 26-year-old soldier. The soldier was shot after he pulled his car off the road to clean ice from his windshield on the way to the barracks in Schweinfurt, police said.
Looking for more details.
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 10:15 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [419 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Part of the problem is that the command in Germany keeps on insisting that the civilian vehicles driven by our servicemembers have distinctive plates. No matter how much this problem is hammered into to them, some Staff Wiennie[tm] always underminds the will to shift all the personally owned vehicles [pov] to local looking identifications. One big "KICK ME" plainly marked on the vehicle.
Posted by: Don || 02/03/2003 11:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Some mornings I just can't keep up with you, Fred.
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 10:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Mines gone...

The shooting's unusual. I can't recall hearing of the Fritzies potting Americans along the road. I wonder if there's a turban involved, or if it's the Deutschland über Alles set? Or did the Werewolves finally kick in?
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 10:45 Comments || Top||

#4  UPDATE: The 26-year-old soldier from the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry was wearing civilian clothes when he was shot in the left hand and leg on his way to the barracks in Schweinfurt, 60 miles east of Frankfurt, Schweinfurt police spokesman Karl-Heinz Schmitt said in a statement. The soldier was able to drive despite being wounded and later underwent surgery, the statement said. The injuries were not life-threatening. Police said they had no leads on who fired the shots or the motive for the attack, which happened around 5 a.m. They appealed for witnesses. A spokesman for the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry confirmed the incident but declined to give any further details, including the soldier's identity.
The incident was under investigation. Police said they would not be able to question the soldier until Tuesday because of his injuries.

I don't think I have heard of any attacks on american troops in Germany since the Bader Mienhof Gang were running around. Of course, it could be as simple as a jealous boyfriend.
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Part of the problem is that the command in Germany keeps on insisting that the civilian vehicles driven by our servicemembers have distinctive plates. No matter how much this problem is hammered into to them, some Staff Wiennie[tm] always underminds the will to shift all the personally owned vehicles [pov] to local looking identifications. One big "KICK ME" plainly marked on the vehicle.
Posted by: Don || 02/03/2003 11:54 Comments || Top||

#6  More details, let's look at this like a CSI episode, shall we?
A U.S. soldier was seriously wounded by gunfire early Monday after he pulled his car off the road in southern Germany to clean ice from the windshield, police said.
Now why didn't he scrape the ice off before he started driving?
The 26-year-old private first class from the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division was wearing civilian clothes when he was shot in the left hand and leg on his way to the barracks in Schweinfurt.
Early Monday morning going back to the barracks in civilian clothes, stayed out late on Sunday night?
Police said they were focusing on a personal motive, after both German investigators and U.S. military officials said there were no indications of a terror attack. "It looks like a criminal act," police spokesman Dieter Klein said. "We're tending to look at (the soldier's) personal relationships."
Uh huh.
The shooting took place around 5 a.m. about three miles from the Schweinfurt barracks, where the 2nd Brigade of the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division is stationed. The soldier was able to drive despite being wounded, and was in stable condition after undergoing surgery, 1st Infantry spokesman Maj. Mark Ballesteros said. Earlier, the soldier's unit had said he was released from the hospital Monday evening. Ballesteros declined to give further details, including the soldier's identity. Police said they would question him Tuesday. The soldier was driving a Ford Mustang with U.S. military license plates that closely resemble German plates, except for small NATO and U.S. symbols. The U.S. military replaced more distinctive plates in 2000 out of concerns for force protection, said Alison Bettencourt, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Army Europe in Heidelberg.
Then why did you put the NATO and US symbols on them? Anyway, our PFC has to jump in his car and leave in a hurry, not stopping to clean his windshield. Gets away down the road to where he thinks it's safe to stop, pulls over and gets out to clean off the windshield. Then gets shot, jumps back in his car and takes off.

My guess, someone's husband came home, our PFC put his pants on and ran, husband grabs gun and follows him, husband sees our hero stopped on the side of the road, pulls up and takes his shot. Hero gets your typical flesh wound and drives off. Husband goes home to smack the wife. Comments?
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 15:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Haul Gerhard Shroeder in for questioning--he HATES Americans!
Posted by: JDB || 02/03/2003 22:49 Comments || Top||


Peace-Keeping Forces in Kosovo to be Halfed
KFOR commander Italian General Fabio Mini announced in Pristine that by the end of the current year the present number of approximately 30,000 servicemen of the international peace-keeping forces in Kosovo (KFOR) would be reduced by half.
Pardon me, but I really don't think this is a good idea right now, General, sir. Not trying to tell you what to do, but have you looked outside lately? Gonna storm soon.
According to him, many duties to ensure security in the region will be transferred to the UN civil mission in Kosovo and to Kosovo police.
Oh great -- now the refugee commission workers can get started on their prostitution rings.
In his turn Gregory Johnson, commander-in-chief of NATO forces in the south of Europe, indicated that the reduction in the number of international peace-keepers would be carried out in accordance with the earlier approved plans.
Guys, I'm telling you, it's gonna storm soon. Perhaps this is something the Italian and Spanish troops can do for us?
According to him, the security situation in Kosovo has improved significantly and there is no need to maintain the present number of servicemen.
I'm betting there are al-Qaeda and related terrorist group cells in Kosovo and Bosnia, just waiting for the go signal.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/03/2003 01:32 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [340 views] Top|| File under:

#1  First step in getting US troops out of Europe. The Europeans can help the war in Iraq by picking up the slack in the Balkans. Win-win for everyone except the Balkins.
Posted by: Yank || 02/03/2003 11:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Let the French and Germans do it - they won't be going to Iraq, and can at least keep the peace in their own back yard, can't they? Or is that too simplisme?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/03/2003 8:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh, this will help:
Serbia yesterday asked NATO for permission to send troops back to Kosovo, nearly four years after the alliance bombed Serb forces to oust them from the province. Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic asked NATO's commander for southeastern Europe, Admiral Gregory Johnson, for permission to send about 1000 troops to the province. Djindjic argued the Serb troops would fill a possible security vacuum if NATO were to pull out some of its troops because of possible military action in Iraq.
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 10:55 Comments || Top||

#4  The Serbs want back in? Oh, gooooooooood idea! I hope the Adm. thought this one over for about 2 seconds before he said no thanks.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 11:19 Comments || Top||

#5  We're talking about Euros and NATO here. The proposal's probably in committee right now...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 11:26 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't doubt that for a minute, but I hope the Admiral got his dope slap ready for the Euroidiots.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 11:29 Comments || Top||

#7  First step in getting US troops out of Europe. The Europeans can help the war in Iraq by picking up the slack in the Balkans. Win-win for everyone except the Balkins.
Posted by: Yank || 02/03/2003 11:56 Comments || Top||

#8  Remember when the rest of the world was doing NOTHING so the USA bombed the Serbs out of Bosnia stop the "oppression" of local Muslims (who often were terrorists)???

And did we get any credit for that from the Islamic world? No, 9/11 is all the thanks we got.

I say let the Serbs go in and do (or have) ANYTHING they want, with our full blessings.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 02/03/2003 14:11 Comments || Top||

#9  Re: the Balkans. The EU-niks couldn't even get their act together to clean up their backyard without our help, so how do we expect them to do the right thing now? They have leadership issues here, there, and everywhere.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 14:39 Comments || Top||


Bad News for Akhmed Zakayev
On Friday Akhmed Zakayev is to appear before London's magistrates court in low spirits.
Poor guy. Let me reach for the sympathy meter I borrowed from Fred.
And it is not surprising. Since the last hearings several weeks ago, Britain has been increasingly favouring his extradition to Russia.
Tap, tap.
Over that period, Britain has experienced a physical sensation of being a fly trapped in the international terrorist web. On January 5, the police discovered an amateur laboratory in Wood Green, a quiet London suburb, where five North Africans were making ricin. A grain of this poison is enough to kill a human. In the following weeks, Scotland Yard carried out three raids, including one at the London mosque, which resulted in detaining 10 more alleged terrorists. As if to prove his deadly skills, one of the detainees stabbed a policeman.
Thus proving his devoutness as an Islamist.
The British public was shocked to learn that some of those arrested were trained to make ricin from beans and stab policemen to death in Chechen rebels' camps.
They may have been shocked, but anyone who's been following the Chechers wasn't.
It was a revelation to Britain. Suddenly many UK citizens, including the dispassionate judges of London's Bow Street magistrates court who are to hear Zakayev's extradition case, came to realise what kind of forces stood behind that well-mannered ex-actor in a double-breasted European suit. Those were Islamist haters of the civilised West who had been accumulating chemical weapons for terrorist attacks against the British capital.
Is it me or is Pravda playing this one straight?
In a couple of weeks Chechnya ceased to be an exclusively Russian issue. People who had been possibly trained to kill and destroy by the ex-field commander Akhmed Zakayev showed up in Britain to demonstrate their skills.
With field offices in all the good countries of Europe. And also in France and Germany.
It was as if the wahhabite Ichkeria of Zakayev and Maskhadov came to Britain to become its domestic issue. As if Ulster was not enough for Albion.
They prefer to take on the crazies one at a time, same as the rest of us.
His own experience turned Zakayev into a perfect trainer for young combatants. Recruits in Chechen militant camps trained to conduct deadly attacks against the world, including Britain, must have praised him. The Russian Prosecutor's Office accuses Zakayev of forming illegal bandit formations, killing 302 people, including two clergymen, captivity and mutilation, any of which could have been subjects of his camp lectures.
There was a time when killing clergymen was the exclusive province of the NKVD.
As to the Chechens, they do not want to return to Shariah courts, public executions and legal slavery
A fair number of them do. Of course, most of them hate yer guts, Ivan, and therefore are pre-disposed to Wahhabite lunatics clerics who spew hate.
- that Wahhabite inquisition carried out in the years when Akhmed Zakayev was Minister of Culture and later on Deputy Prime Minister of the de-facto independent Republic of Ichkeria.
He got to make the rules, couldn't have been too bad for him.
But there is more bad news for Zakayev.
Tap, tap.
Not only his ideology, but his legal status in Britain are collapsing. On January 10, 2003 Britain officially recognised Russia member of the European Convention on the Suppression of Terrorism signed on January 27, 1977.
Zakayev didn't count on that.
This move has taken the wind out of Zakayev's sails. The Convention deprives the alleged terrorist of an opportunity to justify his actions by political reasons and thus avoid extradition. Zakayev's lawyer Gareth Peirce can now speak volubly of her defendant being "a prominent Chechen political figure," "a fighter for his country's independence" and "mediator in political negotiations." Under the convention, politics is weak evidence against participation in terrorist groups, killings and hostage taking all of which are incriminated to Zakayev.
Tap, tap.
But the worst is yet to come for the Chechen Envoy. Lately, he has been hoping to be set free after the London court hearings on Friday. Early in January Gareth Peirce said, "I hope that our Home Secretary will follow the example of the Danish authorities and will not authorise hearings on Zakayev's extradition case." The shrewd lawyer and her defendant were in for a heavy blow. On Wednesday British Home Secretary David Blunkett signed an injunction authorising the launch of Zakayev's extradition proceedings. The British legal mechanism has been put into operation and there is no way of stopping it.
Tap, tap -- dammit Fred, this is the last time I borrow YOUR sympathy meter!
Pinochet's extradition shows that the meticulous British Themis will turn Zakayev into a ball throwing him from low instance courts to higher legal echelons, until the case reaches the House of Lords. The ping-pong game with Pinochet's case lasted 500 days. Unfortunately for Zakayev, he has not got the Chile dictator's trump card - fragile health. Maskhadov's Envoy is as strong as an ox.
Unless he returns home,anyways.
Thus, he will be strong enough to board Russia-bound flight sooner or later.
Tap, tap -- hey Fred, maybe it ISN'T broken after all!
Posted by: Steve White || 02/03/2003 01:21 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [267 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's probably working but with a negative log scale.

dorf
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 8:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Dunno what's wrong with the old sympathy meter. It was working fine on Saturday...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 8:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Think Vanessa's getting ready to book the penthouse at the Chechnya Hilton? Glass in the windows optional...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 10:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Fred --- Your sympathy meter is calibrated, tested and working fine. Trust your meter and crosscheck, as we say in instrument flying. I would hope that the Zakayev case works its way expeditiously through the Brit System, he is transported to his old digs, and is dealt with as he deserves. Sweetie Pie is just a Hollywood idiot and she will run out of wind.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 10:23 Comments || Top||

#5  I just hope Pravda isn't counting too much on the good sense of the British courts. I'd still put the likelihood of Zakayev thumbing his nose at the Russers and the rest of us as he walks at 50-50.
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 10:47 Comments || Top||


European Parliament Chairman Censures European Leaders for Backing U.S. Position on Iraq
In Prague on Friday Pat Cox, chairman of the Parliament of Europe, censured the letter of eight leaders of Europe backing the position of the United States on Iraq.
"He c-c-c-censored them? Hold me, Ethel!"
It would make me glad if the key leaders of Europe gave more time to the search for consensus than advance their own diplomatic initiatives, said Cox.
Yar! The only people allowed to go off half-cocked on this continent is us!
On Friday he had a meeting with Vladimir Spindla, Prime Minister of Czechia. Cox said that the settlement of the Iraq problem must rely on the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and censured a possible unilateral military action against Iraq.
Clearly one of the requirements for being Chairman is an inability to count. If eight countries sign a letter of support, than it isn't unilateral, is it?
The leaders of eight European countries put their signatures under a letter published on Thursday by The Times newspaper and some other European publications. The letter was undersigned by the president of Czechia and the prime ministers of Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Hungary, Italy and Denmark. The authors of the open letter back the United States in its planned hostilities against Iraq.
To each of the eight, another big thank you from me.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/03/2003 01:14 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [314 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A long time ago, in a Playground far, far away, a pact was made by a Tribe of children calling themselves "NATO"; and in this pact it was said that "An attack against one constitutes an attack against all". Perhaps 9/11 wasn't an attack, but an unfortunate misunderstanding of on how diplomacy is executed between two Tribes. Frankie goes to Hollywood in reverse. I do appreciate the German Army Decon unit with us here; they, like the Czechs' are standing by to assist the nation of Kuwait if Sammy does something silly like gassing innocent civilians of another nation. (read Diplomacy, Tribes, etc.) Hmmm....
Posted by: Bodyguard || 02/03/2003 3:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "" Merde en France posts a link stating that Albania and Slovakia have joined the 8. The article points out how militarily poor the 10 are, compared to Nuclear France than Germany, but still notes the split in Euro opinion.

Time to move bases.

(Merde en France posts their posts in English and French, side by side. They're funny, irreverent, and display classical Gallic humor. And on the side of Truth, Justice, and Goodness (They say Rumsfield is right about "Old Europe"). Please add to the links on the right.)

Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 4:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Posting from other computer. Previous comment is mine.
Posted by: Ptah || 02/03/2003 4:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Good idea. They're on the list. I just love Gallic smartassery...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 9:11 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm ready to show the Europarliament our national finger...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 10:05 Comments || Top||

#6  I must confess that up to this moment that I have never heard of the Europarliament. And I have the feeling I am not alone....
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 10:12 Comments || Top||

#7  "Yar! The only people allowed to go off half-cocked on this continent is us! "

See? I've got a half-cock right here...
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 10:19 Comments || Top||

#8  What the bloody 'ell is Czechia?
Posted by: Brian || 02/03/2003 10:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Ireland is on the list as well. Their prime minister was rightly steamed for not even being asked to sign by the "8". Before you consider Ireland to be a backwater of the former United Kingdom, Their per capital annual family income is now higher than Germanys. They've also run into the buzzsaw of the EU when the decided to (GASP!) cut taxes and tarrifs to stimulate their enconomy.
Posted by: Frank Martin || 02/03/2003 10:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Seems to me that eight leaders is consensus, but I's just a iggerant Yank. In the US Congress, censure is a big fat hairy deal, a formal show of disapproval. Is it the same thing in the EP, or just one guy flapping his gums?

Merde in (not en---I suspect there's a subtle difference) France is an American living in France.

Posted by: Angie Schultz || 02/03/2003 11:06 Comments || Top||

#11  I think the "censure" amounts to Mr Chairman making faces on his own. If my Mom was still around, she'd warn him his face is gonna stay that way.
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 11:10 Comments || Top||

#12  European joke of the day (from the italian paper La Repubblica,monday Febr. 3rd, interview to a leftist leader): "...a strong , clear and UNCONDITIONED no to the war to Iraq...An eventual UN resolution is no longer a sufficient guarantee: the pressure by the USA on the UN inspectors are UNACCEPTABLE and they make the UN no longer credible". Boys, this guy says that EVEN IF the UN calls for war the left is UNCONDITIONALLY in favor of Saddam. You know, the UN is under USA control...This guy should be paid for being the best clown in the world.
Posted by: Poitiers || 02/03/2003 11:28 Comments || Top||

#13  hmm Europe is to speak with one voice, we got 4 against, 10 for the US. When the French and Germans are "censuring" the majority, maybe the power structure is not one country one vote? And if it isn't, why are the smaller countries signing up?

Seems to me that someone needs censure here...
Posted by: flash91 || 02/03/2003 12:03 Comments || Top||

#14  France and Germany: Beware of Caucuses becoming Consensus.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 12:56 Comments || Top||

#15  Frank Martin: I was surprised too. I don't think the British thought that the Irish wanted to have anything to do with anything in the British were involved. The PM of Ireland must be VERY worried about Saddam too..
Posted by: Ptah || 02/03/2003 19:08 Comments || Top||

#16  Ptah --- The Irish PM is probably worried about mosque construction up north.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 20:53 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
New Zealanders accuse US of hiding WMD
Wellington, New Zealand, Agencies
Protesters tried to scale a fence surrounding the US Embassy in New Zealand during an anti-war rally Sunday, saying they wanted to check for weapons of mass destruction.
"Hey! Look what I found in the U.S. ambassador's underwear drawer!"
"Don't touch that, you fool! You'll kill us all!"

The protesters, carrying ladders and mock metal detectors, tried to scale a 6-foot iron gate in front of the Embassy compound in Wellington but were hauled down by police. Twenty-three demonstrators were arrested and several were charged with disorder, assault and resisting police, police Inspector Marty Grenfell said. About 250 people attended the rally.
None of them very bright...
Protest organizer John Sarvis said he was disappointed by the police reaction. "There might be rogue nations in the world, but there is only one rogue superpower," Sarvis said, referring to the United States.
Sarvis probably thinks that statement makes sense...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 10:38 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [271 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bloggers on scene report actual count closer to70-100. They evaporated when the arrests were made.
Posted by: Chuck || 02/03/2003 10:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like New Zealand Clown College is back in session...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 11:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Dang, I wish I coulda been there - I always wanted to rake some screaming protestors offa th' embassy walls with an LMG...
Posted by: mojo || 02/03/2003 13:04 Comments || Top||


Tom Hayden mouths off on war
Tom Hayden, life-long schnook activist and fear-monger peace activist, granted an interview to Pravda. Too long to post in full here -- well actually I could until Fred whacks me, but it's just so stultifying that I gave up after a while. He's a Stalinist, and whiny to boot. So hit the link if you think you can stand it -- Tom is chock-full of nutty goofiness.

"You know, I've met Noam Chomsky in Porto Alegre.
They were on the lam from the VRWC.
He was giving a conference there and I came across with him. I havenÂŽt seen him for 35 year.
"Honest, I don't know him, officer!"
Even when he's got an excellent photographic memory, he did not recognize me. Maybe for the goatee."
Maybe because he has pre-senile dementia.
Tom Hayden is now 63 and has been a leftist dipshit social rights activist since he was at the University, forty years ago, breaking his mother's heart because he never graduated. He became worldwide famous as the leader of the Chicago Seven, a mob group of proto-terrorists students that broke into the Democrat National Convention in 1968 to protest against the war in Vietnam. Since then, his name is linked with the goofball activism for labor and social rights.

Times are different now, but not at all.
Fer instance, now he's no longer respected.
There's still something to fight for, maybe the world is now more unjust than in the sixties.
The world today looks like a scene from Terminator 2 -- no wait, it doesn't.
The mankind is again in the eve of a war, maybe more cruel and destructive than the one that took Hayden to the streets in the 1960's.
Let's ask the Iraqis after they're liberated.
Iraq proves that the USA has not learned too much from Vietnam and its will to control world's natural resources remains the same. So there is Tom Hayden. He, as hundred of thousands of anti-globalization goofs activist, keep on fighting for power and hegemony a better world.

Q. How did you become an active militant of the anti-globalization movement?
I thought I could score on hippie chicks. I was very involved in the demonstrations in Seattle in 1999, at the time I was member of the California State legislature. I believed then and I still believe that the World Trade Organization is a boon menace to Democracy. Specifically, it has the power to subvert or override laws concerning labor standards, environmental standards, water quality and so on. So I joined the pro-Democracy and Anti-globalization movement.
I think his egg was addled long before he joined.
Q. What does the Anti-Globalization movement mean?

A. Globalization is an arrangement for a new international set of laws and they favor human investor rights and property rights for purposes of world freedom and humanity trade. The anti-globalization movement is for a global injustice. [snippero here]

Q. Why a person from the USA should join the Anti-Globalization movement?

A. They say that the young people is very upset about the world they are inheriting from the older generation and they feel that it is completely unjust.
Sounds like every generation until they get power.
They don't want to be part of it. It is a simply moral issue for them. They also know that our Government is trying to create an empire: militarizing and globalizing at the same time. This means wars that the young Americans will have to serve in and perhaps die in for purposes that are questionable and dubious. It means a military budget that is the biggest in the History of the world. It means that the money from the military budget is subtracted on what can be spend in education, in the environment or in the health care. There are a lot of unfinished businesses in the United States.
[more snippero] This guy trots out every hoary chestnut in the closet. Anybody think he's stuck or something?
Q. Do you think Bush is going to attack Iraq? And if so, what should the anti-globalization movement do?

A. Well, the question is hard to answer as every day brings us fresh news.
He's kidding, isn't he? The fresh news daily is more evidence of just how evil Saddam is.
I agree with those who say that Bush wants war and that is prepared to do everything to have his way. On the other hand, anti-war movement in the USA is bigger this time than it was at the beginning of the Vietnam War. The support for the war comes from the hard line republican pro-Bush partisans. They want to create a protectorate in the Middle East, in Baghdad, from which they would control oil supplies and they will be entitled to overthrow Iran and Syria and destroy Hezbollah and impose a settlement on the Palestinians. Now we've sent 250.000 troops there. If Bush calls the war off, it is like surrender for his point of view.
"It's ALL ABOUT OIL!!" Gads. Isn't there a lefty around who has an original idea or two?
Q.Is the Free Trade Zone of the Americas part of this building up of an Empire?

A.Yes. NAFTA was Canada, the USA and Mexico, has been a disaster.
Which accounts for all the riots in the streets.
The unemployment in Mexico is much higher than at the beginning of NAFTA. The middle class has collapsed in Mexico. Millions of farmers have been ruined because of the flood of imports from the USA.
The middle class has collapsed because of the kleptomaniacs running all the big stuff there, but don't let us get in the way of a good rant.
The immigration crisis is getting worse because the US imports cause more immigrants to leave places like Chiapas. Probably 3,000 people have died in the border since NAFTA and they do not count same numbers at the World Trade Center. They also do not count the bodies on the Mexican side of the border, so it is probably worse.
Like every good lefty, Tom-mo makes sure he denigrates the people who died at the WTC. It's a calling card for them.
ALCA is a NAFTA expanded is like NAFTA and asteroids growing in all Latin America.
Okay, I give: what in the world did he just say?
Q.With the above in mind, is there something that Russia could obtain from globalization?

A. For the Russians the term globalization may have another meaning.
As in "Where's mine?"
The Russians are not anti-globalization; they want to be part of it and not to be isolated. I understand and agree with that.
So globalization's not so bad after all. Make up yer mind.
But without going back to the policies of the former Soviet Union I hope that the Russian government and policies will push forward an independent, sovereign, Russian rule in this international order. I would hope that the Russian do not have their natural resources rapped by multinationals and their very rich national heritage replaced by McDonald's.
Like the French.
I am sure that the Russians will feel on the same way. So in absence the anti-globalization, unless globalization includes respect for the dignity of Russian national culture, Russian sovereignty over their own natural resources. The purpose of Russia is not to become a colony of the United States but this is what US led globalization will intend.
"They're evil, evil I tell you! I can barely stand my countrymen! Ummm, what time is my flight back to LA?"
More snipping liberally (dare I say) applied.
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#1  Cuckoo!
Posted by: Parabellum || 02/03/2003 12:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks! Parabellum.. I needed that!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 12:59 Comments || Top||

#3  There are reasons why I am very embarrassed to have been born and raised in California: That my birthstate created and voted for this fruitcake is one of them.

My only salvation was The Santa Ana Register (now The Orange County Register, one of the original Conservative newspapers of the VRWC, and longtime rational voice in the wilderness that's California politics. If you've wondered why Orange County is a hotbed of Conservatism in California, The Register ranks near the top on the short list of reasons why.)
Posted by: Ptah || 02/03/2003 4:41 Comments || Top||

#4  The Sixties are over Tom. Now go back to sleep and dream of Jane and the glory days when people actually paid attention to you.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  I am a fifth (and last) generation Californian and reading about Tom Hayden is like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I get my blood boiling just listening and reading his and his ilk's dreck. I had 4 years at UC Berkeley '66 thru '70, and am still up to here with all the leftist propaganda. These scum have ruined one of the most beautiful, energetic, and all around neat states in the Union. I hope that some day the people have the political will to take their state back.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 10:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Cuckoo!
Posted by: Parabellum || 02/03/2003 12:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Two phrases, Tom -

1)Hanoi Jane
2) STFU
Posted by: mojo || 02/03/2003 16:46 Comments || Top||

#8  --They say that the young people is very upset about the world they are inheriting from the older generation and they feel that it is completely unjust.--

Hey, dipwad, they're talking about you! You are the establishment. Besides, why are your trusting anyone under 30? And how much did Jane pay you to go away? Living large on the ex-wife, now there's something to be proud of.
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India-Pakistan
MPA not quite bumped off by another pol...
Peshawar: Member Provincial Assembly (Pakistan People’s Party-S) Alamzeb Khan Umarzai has [been] severely injured, his driver killed while two constables also severely injured during an life attempt on him. Talking to newsmen after he rushed to the Lady Reading Hospital, Alam Zeb Khan Umarzai said that he was on his way to Sherpao to attend a meeting. Bashir Khan Umarzai, former MPA, his two sons Shakil Khan, Mansoor and his relatives Riaz, Masood and Nasir opened fire on them and his friend (driver) Ayaz was killed on the spot while two police constables Farman Ullah and Sajjad were also severely injured.
It's laughable, but something like that actually happened a couple years ago, in a sheriff's election, in Georgia. I think it might have been Cobb County. It's a bit more common in Pakland, though...
It is to be mentioned here that this was third of its kind life attempt on the MPA, twice like life attempts have been also made in the past, in which the Alam Zeb had severely injured as this time he has also injured. Leaders of the PPP(S) and other politicians including Nisar Muhammad Khan, Hukam Khan etc. have expressed grave concern and anger over the tragic incident and has said that the government has failed to protect the lives of the people. They questioned that how the government could protect the life of a common citizen when it could not protect the life of an MPA.
Want to be the attempted assassin "just happens" to be an MMA member, even though he also appears to be a relative?
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Bomb explosion in Karachi, one dead and two injured:
KARACHI, Feb 03: One person was killed and two injured in a blast which took place in the parking lot of Clifton Shopping Galleria behind PSO House at 11:30 a.m. Blast rocked the buildings and window panes of many of the nearby buildings were broken. The blast was caused by a bomb believed to be planted in a motorcycle. The explosion caused extensive damage to one side of the modern, glass structure of the PSO headquarters and blew out windows of nearby buildings."We cannot rule out foreign hand in the blast," Inspector General of Police (IGP), Sindh, Syed Kamal said while talking to reporters at the site of the blast.
Nor domestic hands, for that matter...
He said it would be premature to blame or suspect the Al- Qaeda for the blast. "It is a blast...that's all we know. We are investigating." Tariq Jameel, deputy inspector general of Karachi police, told Reuters. Police chief Asad Ashraf Malik said the motive for the bombing was unclear but he called it a terrorist strike. At least five motorcycles were also damaged in the explosion. One part of the damaged PSO building was smeared with the blood of the victim, who was thrown into it by the explosion, witnesses said. The blast caused panic as people ran for cover. Dozens of police and paramilitary officials rushed to the scene and cordoned off the area.
Modern glass buildings housing Gallerias are so secular and western, I'm surprised this is the first such booming.
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Southeast Asia
Indonesia arrests Singapore militant
Police in Indonesia say they have arrested the leader of the Singapore branch of Jemaah Islamiah (JI), the regional militant network accused of carrying out the Bali bombings last year.
Mas Slamet Kastari was detained on Sunday evening in the city of Tanjungpinang on the Indonesian island of Bintan, Lieutenant-General Erwin Mappaseng told the BBC. Mas Slamet had been on the run since 2001, when Singaporean police implicated him in a plot to crash an airplane into Changi International airport.
More than 50 alleged members of JI have been arrested over the last year in Singapore and Malaysia. News of Mas Slamet's detention came hours after a small bomb went off at the national headquarters of Indonesia's police force in the capital, Jakarta.
Bad timing for your capture, Mas. The cops are pissed.
Indonesian police say they have been on the trail of Mas Slamet Kastari for a few days, after receiving a tip-off from their Singaporean counterparts. He was first sighted on the Indonesian island of Sumatra, then followed to Bintan island, just off the coast of Singapore. There, according to police, he was supposed to meet with two accomplices who failed to turn up. "He was carrying a fake identity card and passport," Lieutenant-General Mapasseng said.
I'd have been surprised if he didn't.
The BBC correspondent in Jakarta, Rachel Harvey, says the arrest marks a significant breakthrough for the security forces. Recent improvements in co-operation between police forces in the region could be starting to pay dividends, she says. Also on Monday Indonesian police said they had arrested a Malaysian man who they said was involved in the planning and financing of the Bali bombing. A total of 30 suspects have now been arrested in connection with the Bali attacks, which killed nearly 200 people, mostly foreign tourists.
Too many people involved, someone was bound to talk. Your experienced terror groups limit the size of their cells to just a few people. That limits the damage when one cell is broken.
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#1  Details on the second capture:
Nurdin Mohammed Thob was arrested yesterday in East Java and is to be taken to Bali for questioning about his role in providing $US35,000 ($60,000) to finance the Bali attack.Spokesman for the Bali investigation, Zainuri Lubis, said Mr Thob was picked up alone in rented house in Gresik in East Java. Mr Thob, a Malaysian, has been a suspect since December when his name was found on a document in a raid on a house in Solo occupied by a key JI figure and Bali bombing suspect known as Muchlas. Indonesian police say Mr Thob, with another Malaysian, Dr Azhari, has long been wanted by the Malaysian Government.
Nice to catch the money men and find out where the funds came from.
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Pressure mounts on Indonesian president to speak out against US
Jakarta Post
Indonesian president Megawati Soekarnoputri appears to be wavering on whether to condemn a possible attack by the United States on Iraq as calls mount for her to speak out publicly against an attack. Analyst Ikrar Nusa Bhakti urged Megawati on Sunday to be more assertive in addressing the Iraqi issue in order to avoid the misperception that Indonesia supports the U.S. and its allies over Iraq. "It is true that we are dependent on the U.S. for many things, but that should not keep the President from being more assertive in addressing the issue," Ikrar told The Jakarta Post. "Voicing an anti-war opinion is a positive thing and in accordance with our Constitution, regardless of any possible ire from Washington."
"Of course it's a wringer, madame. But as president of Indonesia, it's your obligation to put your bosom in it."
Ikrar's comments came after noted religious leaders told the government over the weekend to make clear its stance on the Iraqi issue. During a meeting with Minister of Foreign Affairs Hassan Wirayuda last Friday, the religious leader said Megawati had to make known her position on a possible U.S. attack on Iraq.
As long as it's the same as theirs, anyway...
"The minister admitted that the President had never officially addressed the issue, which could be misunderstood as being indecisive," Muslim leader Solahuddin Wahid told the Post on Sunday.
Mega is either timid, which could be the case, or smart enough to realize that the U.S. is going to win on Iraq, one way or the other. The Islamists in Indonesia are determined to blindly follow the Arab lead, regardless of the fact that they're going to get tromped. It's the same bunch who were determined, up until October, that there was no terrorist danger to Indonesia, which just goes to show that there's no such thing as "disgraced" in politix.
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Indonesian police arrest Singapore head of Jemaah Islamiyah
Indonesian police said today they have arrested a man who is the chief in Singapore of the Jemaah Islamiyah regional network. Mas Slamet had plans to hijack planes in Bangkok and Singapore and crash them, said national police detective chief Commissioner General Erwin Mappaseng. Slamet was arrested in the town of Tanjung Pinang in Riau province on Sumatra island.
Yes! Oh, nice job!
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Bad Guys boom Indonesian police headquarters
Jakarta Post
An explosion rocked a building inside the Indonesian National Police headquarters complex in Jakarta early on Monday, El Shinta radio reported. The blast damaged several windows, the door and the ceiling. Two cars were damaged by the blast, but there was no casualties reported. The Bhayangkari building is a function hall which usually deployed to host meetings or wedding celebrations.
"Mahmoud, they're catchin' almost all the Jemaah killers!"
"You're right, Yusuf. We must vow..."
"YES! YES!"
"... DIRE REVENGE!"

National Police spokesman Brig. Gen. Edward Aritonang confirmed that the blast was caused by a bomb, which was planted before the entrance door of the building. "The low-explosive bomb was put in a black suitcase. But we have yet found out the detail of the bomb," he told reporters in a press conference held one and half hour after the blast. Edward denied that police failed to maintain its security as "the building is out of our security control because it is used for public events".
It's a public building. Anybody could sabotage it. That's the case with all public buildings...
He said that some officers have reported the suit to the bomb squad, but the bomb blew before they arrived. The case will be handled directly by the National Police, instead of the Jakarta Police.
And the National Police are not happy...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 09:26 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [260 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I was thinking that, too. Somebody didn't give the happy couple a toaster...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 12:25 Comments || Top||

#2  OK. They hold weddings at their National Police Headquarters?

Would be interesting to know what meetings or weddings were scheduled.
Posted by: Chuck || 02/03/2003 11:36 Comments || Top||

#3  I was thinking that, too. Somebody didn't give the happy couple a toaster...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 12:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Luggage, Fred. They got a set of luggage. One piece at a time.
Posted by: Chuck || 02/03/2003 13:15 Comments || Top||


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#1  Send this link over to Democratic Underground will ya? They could use the help...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Send this link over to Democratic Underground will ya? They could use the help...
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Axis of Evil
Powell Promises U.N. Compelling Proof on Iraq
LONDON/BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Secretary of State Colin Powell pledged Monday to provide "straightforward, sober and compelling" proof this week that Iraq was hiding banned weapons from United Nations inspectors in violation of U.N. demands.
Baghdad has already dismissed the evidence. "They won't be really proof, they will be fabricated space and aerial photos," Hussam Mohammad Amin, head of Iraq's National Monitoring Directorate, said Sunday.
Wow, never saw that coming,did we? And Hussam sounds like he's got a real tough job.
In a Wall Street Journal opinion piece two days before he speaks to the U.N. Security Council, Powell wrote that although there was still no "smoking gun," the world must recognize Iraq had flouted the will of the international community.
I'd settle for "smoking rubble"...
Powell was backed up by British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Washington's main ally in its drive to force Baghdad to give up banned weapons peacefully or by force.
Blair said there was "unmistakable evidence" that Iraq was withholding cooperation from the inspectors.
Striking a conciliatory but firm note toward other European allies, many of them skeptical of U.S. intentions, Powell promised Washington would try to bridge differences and fully consult its partners before any decision to go to war.
...and if that don't work, we're going anyways."Partners" my ass.
A peaceful outcome was still possible if Iraq's President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) switched course and cooperated with U.N. experts hunting for Baghdad's weapons of mass destruction. But Washington "will not shrink from war" if necessary, he wrote.
Powell did not say what evidence he would hand the Security Council Wednesday. One of his aides told an Egyptian daily it would not have the detail of evidence used in a law court but would convince "any sensible person" Iraq was hiding something.
Any "sensible person" is already convinced.

NO PICTURES OF STOCKPILED WEAPONS
Richard Haass, State Department director of policy planning, told al-Ahram in an interview run in Arabic: "I don't want to raise expectations. We will not present pictures of 30,000 stockpiled warheads which can each carry chemical weapons, if that is what you mean by evidence."
The two top U.N. disarmament officials, Hans Blix and Mohamed ElBaradei, are expected to go to Baghdad at the end of the week despite a letter they wrote that appeared to put conditions on the trip, U.N. officials said.
Iraq has rejected any conditions for the visit, expected on Saturday, just days before another key report by the inspectors to the Security Council on February 14 -- possibly the last before Washington finally decides on an attack.
In a German newspaper interview published Monday, Blix called on the United States to come up with concrete facts in its evidence to the United Nations this week.
"What we need is evidence that is actionable, tip-offs that lead us to specific places," Blix, the U.N.'s chief weapons inspector, told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.
Like flashing signs "Weapons of Mass Destruction HERE".
In the Wall Street Journal article, Powell wrote that he would say Baghdad was continuing to frustrate the work of the inspectors, who have been scouring Iraq since November but have yet to find proof of chemical, biological or nuclear arms.
"While there will be no 'smoking gun' ... we will ... offer a straightforward, sober and compelling demonstration that Saddam is concealing the evidence of his weapons of mass destruction, while preserving the weapons themselves," he wrote.

SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES
Washington says Iraq is in breach of Security Council resolution 1441, which gave Baghdad a last chance to give up banned weapons peacefully or face "serious consequences."
To the UN "serious consequences " means they'll have the Iraqi ambassador's car towed..
Powell admitted that "much has been made of the friction between the U.S. and some of its traditional partners" -- France and Germany among them -- who want to slow the rush toward war.
"We will work to bridge our differences," he said, promising "a new round of full and open consultation with our allies about next steps."
"The next step is BOOM. Are you in or out?"
In London, Blair told the British parliament there was "a huge infrastructure of deception and concealment designed to prevent the inspectors from doing their job."
"The evidence of cooperation withheld is unmistakable," he said two days after returning from talks with President Bush (news - web sites) in Washington. "We are entering the final phase of a 12-year history of the disarmament of Iraq."
Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou, on a Middle East tour as envoy of the European Union (news - web sites), of which Greece is current president, said chances of peace were "quite slim" but a last try by Arab states to head off war might be worth it. Yeah, right...
Papandreou said in the Jordanian capital Amman that Arab leaders believed Saddam still had to be convinced that war could be imminent. "The feeling is that he doesn't understand" that time is running out, Papandreou said.
Then he's even dumber then we thought.
U.S. and British forces have been gathering in the Gulf and Turkey's government said Monday it would ask parliament this week to authorize military measures -- a move that could open the way for U.S. forces to open a northern front against Iraq.
Could????
IRAQ WANTS ARAB SUMMIT
In Iraq, which denies it has weapons of mass destruction, the newspaper Babel, owned by Saddam's eldest son Uday, called Monday for an emergency Arab summit to discuss "the aggressive American threats." "Babel"? How appropriate? Too bad it's spelled wrong. And those Arab summits always accomplish so much...
Arms inspections continued in Iraq Monday. The official Iraqi News Agency said the inspectors found a damaged warhead for a permitted short-range missile and a ceramic mold for a small missile during visits to at least nine more sites.
...and then they tried to find another distillery to search and mooch some of that good Iraqi scotch....
The agency called the finds unimportant.as usual There was no immediate comment from the inspectors.


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#1  Well, I think we can safely say now that the U.N. is not going to take any action AT ALL if this is any clue - apparently they have all had their brains AND spines removed. Got this link from FARK - good grief!
http://www.artdaily.com/noticiaframe.asp?not=11&fnot=2/2/2003
Posted by: Flora || 02/03/2003 22:27 Comments || Top||


Iraqi ’Ghost’ Troops :Now You See Them, Now You Don’t
President Saddam Hussein has decentralized the Iraqi army in preparation for urban combat and will rely on his son Qusay to co-ordinate a defensive war in the cities, according to exiled generals monitoring Iraq.
This is just like listening to our retired generals on CNN telling us how the US military will fight.
"The Americans will be fighting ghosts. They will find it very hard to know where the enemy is. Those who are betting that Saddam will be defeated quickly are mistaken," Lt. Gen. Tawfik al-Yassiri told Reuters. "Tens of thousands of elite Iraqi forces have spread underground, above ground, in farms, schools, mosques, churches ... everywhere. They are not in camps or major installations.
There's a word for troops like this - deserters.
These units are prepared for city warfare and have the experience for it," said Yassiri.
Really? Just when did they face a modern combined arms unit and live?
Yassiri took part in a 1991 uprising against Saddam and now heads a council of exiled officers.
Exiled loosers
The officers say they still maintain contact with their former comrades inside Iraq.
Checking for job openings?
Another exiled officer, who did not want his name published, said some of the best trained units in house-to-house fighting are not part of the regular Iraqi army."They are vicious," the officer said. "They were trained in Europe and do not even wear uniforms."
Chechens?
He did not elaborate, but European states supplied Iraq with military equipment and training in the 1980s.
Saddam's former military aides say secondary systems of communications are in place to help the Iraq army function under U.S. strikes, including simple long range walkie-talkies and fiber optics cables that are hard to hit underground.
Fiber won't help the guys running around in the field and simple walkie-talkies are easy to monitor and jam.
They say the focus of Iraqi defenses are Baghdad and that Qusay, Saddam's younger son and most trusted lieutenant, is pivotal in keeping the Iraqi leader in command of his army.
In a region ruled by autocratic leaders reluctant to delegate power, Saddam has placed Qusay fully in charge of units responsible for the security of the regime, namely the Special Republican Guards and the Special Security Apparatus, the exiled generals say.
Giving him this much power means Sammy has anointed him as his successor. Otherwise he wouldn't have trusted him.
"Qusay still takes orders from Saddam. But Saddam will be trusting few people to see him or know where he is during the war," said Lt. Gen. Saad al-Obeidi, who was involved in Iraq's psychological warfare in the 1980s.
Meaning he'll be hiding in a seperate location.
"It will be almost exclusively Qusay, although he does not have any military experience really," Obeidi said.
This is a tough one. Do you take out Qusay on day one to cripple command and control, or do you let him screw things up?
Saddam, his former aides say, has divided Iraq into three sectors -- the north, center and south -- with commanders for each sector delegated almost total power during hostilities.
Makes sense, they know they'll lose communications.
They say they have found out the identity of only the southern commander so far -- Saddam's cousin Ali al-Majeed, known as Ali Chemical for leading Iraqi troops that smashed a 1988 Kurdish uprising in the north using chemical weapons.
Him we need to kill first day.
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#1  "They were trained in Europe and do not even wear uniforms."


If the exiled officer isn't full of BS, then we've just received advance notice that Iraq is going to disregard the Geneva Conventions and the rules of civilized war.


Everybody who's surprised, raise your hand.

Posted by: David Hines || 02/03/2003 12:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh sheesh, where do we begin... IF this guy isn't BS. Schwarzkopf can update his famous quote about Saddam being a great military man.
in farms, schools, mosques, churches
"Slobo, make room on the bench will you... we got atleast two comin' to join ya.."
fiber optics cables that are hard to hit underground
Maybe ten years ago they were...
Sounds like Sammy got a bit agitated by the news his life was extended by 6 weeks. When a man's ready to go, you don't play with his head like this...
Posted by: Rw || 02/03/2003 12:50 Comments || Top||

#3  "They were trained in Europe and do not even wear uniforms."


If the exiled officer isn't full of BS, then we've just received advance notice that Iraq is going to disregard the Geneva Conventions and the rules of civilized war.


Everybody who's surprised, raise your hand.

Posted by: David Hines || 02/03/2003 12:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh sheesh, where do we begin... IF this guy isn't BS. Schwarzkopf can update his famous quote about Saddam being a great military man.
in farms, schools, mosques, churches
"Slobo, make room on the bench will you... we got atleast two comin' to join ya.."
fiber optics cables that are hard to hit underground
Maybe ten years ago they were...
Sounds like Sammy got a bit agitated by the news his life was extended by 6 weeks. When a man's ready to go, you don't play with his head like this...
Posted by: Rw || 02/03/2003 12:50 Comments || Top||

#5  They'll be ghosts soon enough...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 13:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Calling John Edwards, calling John Edwards.


Invisible troops. What a concept.

Posted by: Chuck || 02/03/2003 14:10 Comments || Top||

#7  "Saddam has placed Qusay fully in charge of units responsible for the security of the regime, namely the Special Republican Guards and the Special Security Apparatus, the exiled generals say."

Didn't the Special Republican Guard finish rather poorly at the Special Olympics?
Posted by: JDB || 02/03/2003 22:07 Comments || Top||


U.N. Watchdog Says World Losing Patience with Iraq
The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency said Monday the world was losing patience with Iraq and Baghdad needed to begin cooperating more with U.N. weapons inspectors. Despite the disagreement among many countries about whether Iraq is in material breach of U.N. resolutions, International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Mohamed ElBaradei told Reuters in an interview the consensus was that Baghdad had to improve its behavior. "There is an agreement that Iraq needs to cooperate more, that the international community is getting impatient and that inspectors should be able to provide positive reports soon," he said. ElBaradei said that this was a message he and fellow chief weapons inspector Hans Blix, in charge of the hunt for chemical, biological and ballistic weapons, would communicate to the Iraqis when they arrive in Baghdad Saturday.
"We expect to get a breakthrough in the area of chemical and biological (weapons) and missiles. Maybe we will not completely finish the job (this weekend) but we would like to see a breakthrough," he said.
Even ElBaradei is getting tired of being used by Saddam. He see's where this is going and wants to have a job after the war.
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Middle East
Malnutrition in Gaza 'as Bad as Zimbabwe' Says Clare Short
The disturbing report, Losing ground: Israel, poverty and the Palestinians, examines in detail how Israels occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip has been the primary cause of the destruction of the Palestinian economy. It calls for full Israeli withdrawal from the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and for international monitors to oversee the process.
A magnificent piece of muddled reasoning...
International Development Secretary Ms Short told a packed meeting in the House of Lords that if there was no speedy action the possibility of a viable Palestinian state would be eroded. "Most people in the world have agreed that the answer is two states side by side, two states that both people can feel safe in and gain security. There would need to be lots of international intervention to make people feel safe. But if we dont move quickly, the possibility of a Palestinian state is being eroded by growing settlements and then we have no solution."
Raving lunatics exploding in all directions aren't part of the argument, of course...
President Bush has said he believes in two states, Colin Powell has said he believes in two states, Prime Minister Sharon has said he believes in two states. If we dont make progress on that, two states will be eroded and then we dont have any political solution around which to mobilise. Then the danger of the crisis becomes enormous.
God forbid we don't have a political solution around which to mobilize!
William Bell, co-author of the report and Christian Aids Policy Officer for Palestinians and Israel said: The Palestinians are currently living in a state of extreme, worsening poverty and fear for their future. Almost three quarters of Palestinians now live on less than US$2 a day - below the United Nations poverty line. The report details how, in the ten years of the Oslo peace process, living standards have worsened for almost all Palestinians living in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Last year, due to Israeli closures of these regions, Palestinian earnings from agriculture fell by 70 per cent, as farmers were unable to market their produce, for instance.
That would seem to be a clear indicator that the Oslo "peace processor" isn't good for the Paleostinians, wouldn't it?
Doctors report clear growth in important indicators of poverty - including child malnutrition, anaemia in pregnant women and a sharp increase in numbers of underweight babies. Stress-related conditions such as heart disease and hypertension have also increased. Since the beginning of the second intifada, in September 2000, new cases at mental health clinics have grown by 100 per cent - alarmingly, most of these cases are children.
Could that have something to do with the very fact of the Second Intifadah?
Ms Short said that according to UNICEF figures, children in the Gaza were now as malnourished as children in the Congo and Zimbabwe.
You have to admire the way they totally dismiss any relation between cause and effect here. The Oslo peace processor isn't good for Paleostinians, the Second Intifadeh increases the incidence of mental breakdown by one hundred percent, and not a word about the boomers, gunnies, snuffies, and Criminal Masterminds™ who're conducting warfare against Israel. The poor, put-upon Paleos can't "bring their goods to market" because they're shut out of Israel — there don't seem to be any markets within Paleostine. Why did the mean old Zionists lock them out? Could it possibly be because of their habit of exploding or shooting women and children to shreds? If I drive a nail through my own forehead, sure, I can complain about having a headache. But it's my own damned fault, isn't it?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 11:42 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [350 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Perhaps Yassar could be pursuaded to spend a bit of the billion or so dollars he's skimmed stolen earned off the Paleo Authority.

Er, and how can starvation be on the increase if the farmers can't sell their produce? Seems to me that it'd just be lying around for the taking at that point.
Posted by: Chuck || 02/03/2003 13:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Ah,yes. The Palestinians. Professional victims not responsible for any of this. It's those damn Jews. I have no sympathy for these people. None.
Any I had went out the window about a year and a half ago.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Fred --- your present reading on the sympathy meter, please? My Tricoder records no neural activity between the emotional and rational areas of the cerebral cortex. It is obvious that we have some kind of alien life form addressing the House of Lords.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 15:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Ariel Sharon will wait til the Iraq thang is in control, and do the final smackdown of the Paleos....wouldn't be surprised to see Hezbollah bring some wrath of God back upon themselves with foolishly timed/poorly thoughtout attacks from Lebanon either...Syria asking for some of this as well? Could be a house cleaning of dramatic proportions
Posted by: Frank G || 02/03/2003 15:46 Comments || Top||


Axis of Evil
U.S. Begins Training Iraqi Dissidents
The U.S. Army started training a group of Iraqis opposed to Saddam Hussein on Monday for support roles in the event of U.S.-led war with Iraq. So far, only a few dozen volunteers recruited from Iraqi opposition groups around the world have arrived at the Taszar air base, 120 miles southwest of Budapest, where the training is taking place under heavy security. "I can confirm that the training began today," U.S. Army Maj. Robert Stern, a spokesman for the training task force, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from the base. The Hungarian government authorized the United States to bring 1,500 trainers and up to 3,000 volunteers for two training sessions at the Hungarian air base. The U.S. military has permission to use the base until the end of the year, provided the dissidents do not receive combat training.
"The volunteers will be primarily responsible for translation and liaison work" between the coalition forces and the Iraqis, Stern said. Still, the volunteers will learn self-defense, laws of armed conflict including the Geneva Conventions, human rights, rules of engagement and ethical decision-making.
A second round of training will focus on the conduct of civil military operations, guide and liaison work, and guard work.
Stern also said translators and teachers also were at the base to help some volunteers understand the training and improve their English. Once the volunteers complete both phases of training, they will be flown from Taszar to an area outside Hungary yet to be determined.
Bet we can guess.
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 11:23 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [267 views] Top|| File under:


Sammy issues even more blood-curdling threats...
President Saddam Hussein vowed yesterday to kill one million enemy soldiers if they tried to take Baghdad but offered to cooperate with the UN disarmament process after inviting the chief UN weapons inspectors back to Iraq. "The enemy will not enter Baghdads suburbs because he will die. Even if they send a million soldiers, our boys will kill them," Saddam told senior military aides. "The enemy will land in remote regions and film it," the Iraqi strongman said, according to reports released to the official press.
We're going to fake it, and they're going to kill a million of us. Quick, Ethel! My pills!
Saddam charged that the enemy media will then start saying that they are at some distance from Ramadi (west of Baghdad) or somewhere else and now on its way to invade this or that city. This is how they are going to put on their show, he added.
Was it good for you, too, darling?
As Washington presses the UN Security Council to authorize war, the press said Saddam had reviewed with top aides, including Defense Minister Sultan Hashem and son Qussay, strategies to defeat an enemy landing while limiting Iraqi losses.
And how do they intend to do that?
Iraq also threatened suicide attacks. Suicide attacks are our new weapons, Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan told the German news magazine Der Spiegel, adding: The whole region will be set ablaze. This part of the world will become a sea of resistance and danger for Americans. Neighboring countries hosting US troops would be especially singled out, Ramadan said.
That makes sense. Not much sense, but sense. The best way to limit Iraqi losses is to have the Iraqis blow themselves up...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 11:22 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [788 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He's hoping his people will discount news reports of total collapse during the war and fight until the last man for Saddam. Makes as much sense as any of his other military statements.
Posted by: Yank || 02/03/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  He called the last one "Mother of All Battles". I guess this one will be "Capricorn One of All Battles". Wonder if it will get its own mosque?
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 11:35 Comments || Top||

#3  He's hoping his people will discount news reports of total collapse during the war and fight until the last man for Saddam. Makes as much sense as any of his other military statements.
Posted by: Yank || 02/03/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Saddam (or his English language propaganda folks) needs to take some lessons from North Korea on the correct synax and vernacular for their rants. Its a global market and competition is cutthroat (pardon the pun.......).
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/03/2003 12:46 Comments || Top||

#5  "vowed yesterday to kill one million enemy soldiers"
Hiding some WMD are you, you little devil!
"our boys will kill them"
Sammy's itchin' to join Slobo at The Hague (or wherever the trial is) for using child soldiers.
"Suicide attacks are our new weapons"
Yes I see, strapping explosives to your citizens, except here's the kicker: the commanders hold the remote detonator! ...er, that's not called suicide.
Posted by: Rw || 02/03/2003 12:59 Comments || Top||

#6  If history holds any attack by the Iraqis WILL be a suicide attack.....
dorf
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 13:10 Comments || Top||

#7  If George W. Bush wasn't constrained by the rules of international diplomacy and domestic political considerations, I'd love to hear him thunder to Congress, "We are prepared to sacrifice 20 Million US dead to kill Hussein!!!"

The Iraqis would crap their pants!!!
Posted by: JDB || 02/03/2003 22:15 Comments || Top||


3rd U.S. Carrier Near Iraq; 4th to Come
A third U.S. Navy aircraft carrier is now within striking distance of Iraq, joining the USS Constellation and the USS Harry S. Truman, and a fourth will head there soon, defense officials said Monday. The USS Abraham Lincoln, which had been holding in waters off Australia last month, re-entered the Arabian Sea over the weekend, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. It departed Perth, Australia on Jan. 20 after receiving orders to head back to the Persian Gulf instead of going to its home port at Everett, Wash. With a possible war against Iraq looming, the Lincoln is in the unusual situation of extending its time at sea indefinitely. It completed its normal six-month deployment in January and was due to return from the Gulf to its home port at Everett, Wash. Instead it was ordered to hold in the western Pacific and await further instructions.
The Lincoln is the only carrier with a squadron of the Navy's newest fighter-bombers, the F/A-18 Super Hornet, which has greater range than the older Hornets. Its air wing includes more than 80 attack and support planes.
The Constellation took the Lincoln's place in the Gulf in mid-December and is still there.
The Truman is in the eastern Mediterranean.
With Jordan granting overflight rights, she'll be hitting western Iraq targets.
A fourth carrier, the Norfolk, Va.-based USS Theodore Roosevelt, is wrapping up pre-deployment training off the East Coast of the United States and is likely to head toward the Gulf within several days, one defense official said.
Takes about a week to get to the Med.
The Navy is prepared to send a fifth carrier, the USS Kitty Hawk, which is based at Yokosuka, Japan. If it goes, it likely would be replaced in the Pacific by the USS Carl Vinson, officials say.
USS Carl Vinson would then cover N. Korea so they don't get lonely.

Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 11:06 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:


As-Sahaf says US aims to hegemonize Iraq’s resources
Baghdad, Feb. 2, INA
Information Minister Mr. Mohammed Saed As-Sahaf has met ex-former UN coordinator in Iraq Mr. Hanz Sponeck. During the meeting, Mr. As-Sahaf confirmed that the real aim of US is to control Iraq's wealth and the whole region oil resources and not to look for Mass destruction weapons.
And who should know better than Mr. As-Sahaf?
He added that the media clamor that the US administration provokes against Iraq to get international support to launch aggression was failed, confirming that Iraq would strongly defend Its land in case of launching aggression by the US administration.
Just like last time...
Mr.Hanz expressed rejection for the US threats against Iraq and hopping that the war would not be occurred for its dangerous results to the whole region, calling for exerting more diplomatic efforts to solve the matter peacefully especially that Iraq is co-operating with the inspectors who have never found any thing after two month of inspection's activities.
"So there. You're gonna save us, ain'tcha?"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 10:41 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [324 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We now own Kosovo's oil, Bosnia's oil, Haiti's oil, Kuwait's oil, Grenada's oil, South Korea's oil, Japan's oil, Germany's oil, Italy's oil, the Austro-Hungarian Empire's oil, Spain's oil, Mexico's oil, & Great Britain's oil.

All we need now are Iraq and Vietnam's oil and we will get a free set of 4 NFL glasses suitable for entertaining guests or displaying proudly.

See your local Amoco dealer for details!
Posted by: JDB || 02/03/2003 22:28 Comments || Top||


Sammy will not meet Blix& Elbaradie: Spokesman
Baghdad, INA
An authorised spokesman told INA that President Saddam Hussein’s agenda does not include meeting with head of UNMOVIC Hans Blix and head of IAAE Muhammed Elbaradie during their visit to Iraq on 8th this month. The spokesman added that Iraqi officials due to meet them are authorised by President Hussein and political leadership on the two organisations’ tasks.
"Just send somebody to jolly them up. I've got more important things to do..."
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 10:33 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, so much for my devious plan to booby-trap Blix. Outwitted again! Shazam!
Posted by: mojo || 02/03/2003 12:57 Comments || Top||

#2  It'd have to be Blix. They'd strip search the Arab guy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 13:27 Comments || Top||


Iraq issues blood-curdling threats...
Iraq will inflict massive casualties on American troops if the United States launches an invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, a senior Iraqi legislator declared Monday. Iraqi parliament speaker Saadoun Hammadi told a group of legislators from the European Parliament that Iraq "will not turn the other cheek" should the United States use force to make Saddam's regime give up banned weapons programs. "American aggression will end up in a catastrophe for them," Hammadi said. "They will incur casualties beyond their imagination."
Yours is a society which cannot accept 10,000 dead in one battle... I say to you clearly that Iraq’s rights... we will take one by one... If you use pressure [to oppose us], we will deploy pressure and force. We know that you can harm us although we do not threaten you. But we too can harm you. Everyone can cause harm according to their ability and their size. We cannot come all the way to you in the United States, but individual Arabs may reach you.
No, wait. That's what they said the last time...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/03/2003 10:21 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [363 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The anonymous poster is bloodthirsty. Also, he/she is correct. Even if we dont use nuclear weapons, bagdad should have to choose between unconditional surrender or a dresden-updated-60-years style fire bombing.

As for the executions in egypt - dead terrorists are sufficiently neutralized.
Posted by: flash91 || 02/03/2003 11:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran's top naval officer warned Sunday that Washington would pay a heavy price if it ever attacked the Islamic Republic. "If the United States attacks Iran, it will suffer heavy losses ... because we know its weak points," Rear Admiral Abbas Mohtaj was quoted as saying by Kayhan newspaper. "Iranian naval forces have enormous capabilities and we are able to build missiles with a range of 1,500 kilometers," Mohtaj said.
Gee, Abbas, I thought those were banned? Do you guys really believe this stuff, or do you get promoted by how tough you can talk?
Posted by: Steve || 02/03/2003 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  I believe that the inspectors should take a look at Rear Admiral Abbas fleet. Not that I care about his missles, I'd just like to know more about their boats power plant. Do they use Johnsons of Evinrudes, and do they also come with a Trolling Motor.
Posted by: Bobbing4Kittens || 02/03/2003 11:01 Comments || Top||

#4  The notion that the U.S. is morally incapable of sustaining war after taking large losses, is central to Islamist jihad doctrine. And they view their own willingness to sacrifice their own lives as a strength. In the Iraqi war plans, which were leaked to al-Ahram, and published last Aug. 22, it was disclosed that the Iraqis planned mass attacks on American troop landings in order to prevent troop concentrations. Also, the plan involves use of weapons of mass destruction against these landings. It appears that the intent would be to launch WMD from civil centers, to dare quid pro quo attacks which would kill civilians. The handful of realists within the Bush administration are well aware that Islamania is primed to deny the reality of any use of WMD by co-religists, on any evidentiary basis, and to agitate against proportionate retaliation. It is my opinion that the adoption of limited-war means in response to the 911 atrocities, is folly. The costly use of smart bombs in Afghanistan, as a means to limit civilian casualties, completely backfired, as did the forcing of armistice arrangements on the Northern Alliance victors. The inevitable global instability inherent to the self-defeating practice of limited-war options, within Bush's declared "ten year" counter-terror plan, have already produced huge and unnecessary economic losses equivalent to trillions of dollars. The nuclear blackmail option should have been exercised immediately after 911, in order to force liquidation of the entire global jihadi movement. For example: the government of Egypt should have been pressured to conduct mass executions of its jihadi (Muslim Brotherhood) prison population (20,000). The indulgence of jihadism, has placed the Ikhwanis in a such a position of strength, that al-Azhar clerics have just fatwahed an Islamic obligation to develop WMD. In Saudi Arabia, the Bush family patrons have incorporated al-Qaeda clerics - al-Awdah and al-Hawali for example - within the official Wahabi culture.

It is axiomatic: the counter-terror campaign will only be won when every jihadi is dead, including numerous members of America's own Muslim Students Association. I predict that within two weeks of the Iraq war, Americans will become disposed to annihilate this mortal enemy, in spite of the President's propensity for subsidizing the enemy in Pakistan, and elsewhere, and fraternizing with them - CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, AMC, etc - in America.





Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 11:39 Comments || Top||

#5  The anonymous poster is bloodthirsty. Also, he/she is correct. Even if we dont use nuclear weapons, bagdad should have to choose between unconditional surrender or a dresden-updated-60-years style fire bombing.

As for the executions in egypt - dead terrorists are sufficiently neutralized.
Posted by: flash91 || 02/03/2003 11:52 Comments || Top||

#6  I agree with Anonymous. Eventually we will break out of the reluctance to actually see the blood of our enemies. If we don't, we won't win the war against them. Time enough to feel really, really sorry and wish things could have been different when they're all dead.
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 12:22 Comments || Top||

#7  This thing can end 2 ways:
1. We win a few battles, and new leaders emerge to reform Islam from within to the point where we can have peace.
2. We win by anhilating them.
"We lose and accept Sharia" is not going to happen.

As a Christian, I am hoping against hope to avoid scenario 2. I get especially frustrated with the "peace" crowd -- many of whom are christian clergy members -- because their actions make scenario 2 increasingly likely.

Getting the WMD away from Sammy, et al is the only hope we have to avoid having to commit what amounts to genocide to ensure our safety.
Posted by: JAB || 02/03/2003 13:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Like I said before, peace, but not peace at all costs. If Saddam, or any other whacko who wants WMD isn't dealt with right now, the problems in the future will be exponentially higher. To the peace crowd: how much do you think it will cost, in terms of money and other resources, to protect your ass from a nuclear bomb carried in the trunk of a car. And the technology and means to do this, are only going to get better.

And to those who say "..double standard! why not N.Korea???": not all whackos are created equal. N.Korea is China's little child. It's only allowed to misbehave to a certain point.
Posted by: Rw || 02/03/2003 14:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Flash91:
I am not "bloodthirsty." Over 50,000 jihadis were trained in the production and use of WMD in the Afghan genocide camps. Prior to 911, I accessed the "Islamway" website (an ISNA/Jamaat-i-Islami front which is run by American Pakistanis), and downloaded numerous comments from American Muslims who had attended the genocide camps and were recruiting fellow Muslims to do the same on their vacations. Muslim Students Association members still agitate on behalf of jihad-genocide, and do so at public expense at colleges across America, every Friday (jumuah) afternoon. I have monitored some of these, surreptitiously. It is essential that jihad-life be cheapened. It is not immoral to kill a mortal enemy.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 14:57 Comments || Top||

#10  These type of comments are exactly why I have maintained since 9/11 that this nation needs a forceful response to terror.

I don't want this country to devolve into a Northern Irish situation where citizens arm themselves to kill each other because a fretful/apathetic central government refuses to address the problem squarely.

Hold your fire, guys, until you give the US gov't a chance! It's their constitutional obligation and our only opportunity to preserve the society we love.
Posted by: JDB || 02/03/2003 22:42 Comments || Top||


International
German knifes American in Cebu bar fight over Iraq
American, German in brawl
over Iraq in Cebu
Posted: 10:46 AM (Manila Time) | Feb. 03, 2003
Agence France-Presse

CEBU - An American tourist was knifed and wounded by a German man in the central Philippines in a bar brawl over the raging issue of Iraq, police said Monday.

Police detained Frank Oesterle after he stabbed American John Flynn with a Swiss knife on Friday, Superintendent Maximo Calimlim, the provincial police chief in Cebu City said.
German and American fight over Iraq in a P.I. bar and one stabs
the other with a Swiss army knife - I posted in International just cuz it was so confusing ;-)

The 41 year-old American is confined at a Cebu hospital with multiple stab wounds, but his life is not thought to be in danger.

Calimlim said Flynn and Oesterle, a 37 year-old economist from Munich, met at a bar in the beach resort of Moalboal near here and started arguing their countries' respective positions over UN Security Council resolutions on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

Oesterle, interviewed by a local radio station inside his jail cell, said he had told the American that he was against a threatened US-led attack on Baghdad because "many people will die if the US makes good its threat."

He said he regretted what happened, admitting both men were drunk when they started the argument.

Oesterle said a fistfight followed. The last thing he remembered was he was down on the floor with Flynn sitting on top of him.

"When you're on a holiday, you better speak about nice food, beautiful women and white beaches," said the German, who said he would ask the American to forgive him. He would also urge police not to press charges. Riggghhhhttt
Posted by: Frank G || 02/03/2003 07:17 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [329 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How many of Flynn's wounds were in the back?
Posted by: Don || 02/03/2003 9:23 Comments || Top||

#2  "The 41 year-old American is confined at a Cebu hospital with multiple stab wounds, but his life is not thought to be in danger. "

Yeah, that's the problem with stickin' somebody with your boy-scout folder - they tend to keep screamin' so you keep stabbin' - pretty soon you're one o' them "23-stab wound" killers. Ugly.
Posted by: mojo || 02/03/2003 10:22 Comments || Top||

#3  So the German stabs the American (which means he's armed) and then ends up with the wounded American guy sitting on his chest. Do I have this right? No wonder those weenies don't want to fight. Geeeeze!
Posted by: Scott || 02/03/2003 15:35 Comments || Top||

#4  It really must have been a slow news day for the wires to pick up a fight in a beer joint in the PI...
Posted by: Fred || 02/03/2003 21:12 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Palesine, Schmalestine
Only Glenn Reynolds could conjur this up:

But seriously, the real meaning of the Shuttle exploding above Palestine (Texas) is obvious, and it's directed to Yasser Arafat: If you don't want all kinds of high-tech exploding American stuff to come down on you, you'd better get on the right side of history before it's too late.

It's a message from God, Yasser. Put down those baby wipes, and think about it.

This made me laugh, and given the tragedy Saturday that wasn't easy to do.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/03/2003 01:40 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [333 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If you want symbology, consider this: The LEFT WING disintegrated OVER PALESTINE.
Posted by: Ptah || 02/03/2003 18:54 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
UNSC calls on Georgians to fix Kodori Gorge situation
The UN Security Council in its newly adopted resolution called upon the Georgian side to fully implement the Protocol on the Settlement of the Situation in the Kodori Gorge and to put an end to the activities of illegal armed formations there.
This will strike fear into the hearts of all those in the Gorge. A UN security council resolution! They'll be shaking in their boots.
This was reported on Saturday by the Russian Foreign Ministry Press and Information Department. Last Thursday the UN Security Council unilaterally adopted resolution 1462 in connection with the Georgian-Abkhazian settlement, in which it ruled to extend the Mandate of the United Nations Observer Mission in Georgia /UNOMIG/ up to July 31, 2003.
UNOMIG = UN's a coming, Oh MI God!
The resolution also contains a suggestion that the Georgian and Abkhazian sides consider a possibility of holding a new conference on confidence-building measures, which Russia has been consistently advocating, noted Russian foreign ministry officials.
In other words, the usual.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/03/2003 01:07 am || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [341 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The UN = League of Nations.

It's time to get the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US!!!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 02/03/2003 14:02 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder how much it cost to bring the Protocol on the Settlement of the Situation in the Kodori Gorge to life? Of course, it will solve everything. What a waste of time, money, and effort. Par for the UN course
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/03/2003 14:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Scooter:

Yes, the U.N. disserves America. The reason is that Muslims are operating parallel groups to subvert U.N. universalism. Their U.N. is the Organization of the Islamic Conference. And they have their own versions of UNESCO and even the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Muslims reject universal norms, because their perverse sharia has highly particular notions about rights. For example, part 4:34 of the unholy-koran imposes a wife beating obligation on Muslim men. The Islamic gutter states should be expelled from the U.N. and the civilized world must de-Islamize the globe's savage territories.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/03/2003 20:24 Comments || Top||



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