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07/23/2011 00:00 ||
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Up to 87 now - at first it appeared that it was being repor + described as a severe domestic hate crime, IIRC "MORE LIKE OKLAHOMA CITY THAN THE WTC ON 9-11" vee FOX NEWS AM.
LOOKS LIKE ITS BACK TO "WTC" NOW = As per FREEREPUBLIC, an UNKNOWN ISLAMIC MILITANT GROUP IS REPOR NOW CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY for the Kiddie wipeout.
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blonde-blue eyed Norwegian with reported Christian fundamentalist, anti-Muslim views
The One himself couldn't have picked a better candidate.
Fortunately, my hair is no longer blonde, so I won't be in the first group rounded up.
Posted by: Bobby ||
07/23/2011 7:28 Comments ||
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I only saw the You Tube, but it seemed when Maobama had his melt down he made not mention of this, no condolences, no nothing. If so, that says a lot.
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He called the Norwegian prime minister to express his support. He's fine in this.
They've arrested a second suspect - get this - a member of the same party that got shot up.
I think the nut they've described so far is just a nut, a la Lee Harvey Oswald.
Eyewitnesses have said there were two shooters.
The pieces don't fit quite yet.
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Something doesn't smell right: the island is small but is covered by dense forest so people could easily hide. Also he killed 80 people. Add for misses, add for people he just wounded and escaped and for people he had to finish off. How many bullets would have he been carrying? How much would weigh the ammo (not just the bullets but the magazines). Also I have mentioned the forest: seeking people in it for further victims (I assume after the first shots people would disperse) would have taken time; lots of it. How it is that police didn't arrive?
The only logical explanation is that thre was more than one shooter.
What were the Labor Partys youth discussing on Utoya before being shot to death? The groups leader was denouncing Israel, calling for a boycott, and supporting recognition of a Palestinian state.
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AUF leader Eskil Pedersen believes it is time for stronger measures against Israel. He is impatient on behalf of a permanent two-state solution. The world must exert tougher pressure.
In the morning, visiting Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store Utøya. He will, among other things, participate in a debate on the situation in the Middle East.
AUF has clear advice to the Norwegian government.
We like to talk, but as we have seen so has Israel not been interested, and have not listened to any of the clashes that have been made. The peace process is the wrong way, and though the whole world screaming for Israel to comply, they do not. We in Labour Youth will have a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side, says Eskil Pedersen told Dagbladet.
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Based on reading Norwegian newspapers and some of the writings the shooter posted online in 2009 and 2010:
He held that multi-culturalism is as evil and eventually as oppressive as communism (anti-individual), nazism (anti-jewish), and islamism (anti-kaffir). His targets were the social-democrat government and a "Youth Camp" for future leaders of the same political party. Given his logic, it's as if back in the mid-30s he bombed Hitler's Chancery Building plus attacked a "summer camp" designed to nurture future nazi leaders, all in one day.
He had an hour to walk around the island and shoot people. Apparently, nobody made any attempt to fight him, they just ran, hid inside tents, begged for mercy, tried to swim with all clothes on, and hoped to survive by playing dead. He brought multiple weapons with him, and a bag full of ammo, calmly announced that they were all going to die. Some survivors claim that they heard shots from multiple directions, leading them to believe there were multiple shooters.
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Just when you think that Janet Napolitano has completely lost her mind, this Norwegian psychotic comes and gives her some transient credibility.
Everything about this guy is wrong...blonde, blue eyed, Norwegian, Christian and Crazy.
The difference between this guy and the nutjobs in Islam is that he is crazy and they are not. They believe they are doing the right thing. He's lost touch with reality.
Posted by: Bill Clinton ||
07/23/2011 12:43 Comments ||
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Update by Norwegian police: the shooting lasted 1.5 h
He had two weapons one "single-hand" and one "two-hand" guns. He put his weapons down and surrendered when the police arrived. He has not offered any motive since his arrest. He bought 6,000 kg of fertilizer, apparently used half of it.
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He brought multiple weapons with him, and a bag full of ammo, calmly announced that they were all going to die.
Multiple weapons. That means around 10 pounds per long weapon. Plus ammo (between 500 to 1000 rounds). Plus magazines.
About the killer, he also was a mason (PC press often omitted this) and an admier of an American philosopher who was from a trotskist family (left of communists), who opposed the war on Irak and hated WWB.
Posted by: European Conservative ||
07/23/2011 13:47 Comments ||
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An oddity: According to Aftenposten (translated), the police had staged an anti-terrorist training operation on the same block just two weeks before the attack. This created some disturbance, because the public was not fully informed that it was just an exercise.
Posted by: Frank G ||
07/23/2011 15:03 Comments ||
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My sympathies to the victims of this tragedy, particularly the children, their parents, and relatives. As to the perpetrator(s) - I hope they receive swift justice for their horrendous crimes.
#24
2 things occur to me as I read about this outrage:
1) Norway has compulsory military service for males 18-44, as benefits their small population. It's entirely *possible* that this crazy-head knew how to shoot.
2) As always, our despicable journalist-class leaves out any context for what 'right-wing' means in Europe. As a general rule, a rabid right-winger in America would be 'center-right' in Europe.
Someone took a screen shot of his Facebook page, and went back later to discover that his interests had suddenly changed, to include "Christian" and "conservative", shortly after he was captured.
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Norwegian sources claim there is a YouTube video the shooter prepared before the attack, plus a 1500-page manifesto he sent out to 7,000 facebook connections he had. Apparently a group of people planned a European movement against Islamism, back in 2002.
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From the intro of his manifesto, he planned the bombing and island-shooting as self-sacrifical "marketing" for his anti-islamist, anti-multiculturalist message.
He feels that his message is an echo of European resistance to Islamist conquest from the 8th to the 19th century, and that there are decades of war with Islamism ahead of us.
#29
Do you think any MSM will report the motivation to attack the government HQ and the camp for future party leaders: fear that the ultimate enemy of Western Civilization is marxism and its modern product multi-culturalism, which have together enabled the rapid growth of militant Islamism in the heart of the West?
The question they should all ask: why exactly would an anti-Islamist attack his "own" people? what is the connection between the Leftist Youth Camp and the Moslem Wars?
#30
From what I can tell watching these Norwegians, they are the coldest, most soulless people on earth; from the prime Minister right down to the little HitlerJugend there on the island.
The PM was proud to tell the cameras that they he had visited the island a few days earlier to for a political meeting to "discuss" the Middle East. I'll bet it was real balanced discussion, eh.
Fewer of these Fuhrer worshipers and the world be a better place.
Enough of that, Phager. I'm not going to blame children for their own deaths. Their political views aren't important. That this man coldly and callously gunned them down is what matters.
People start going your way we're going to end up with eye-for-an-eye justice. Then we'll all be blind. No thanks.
Posted by: Steve White ||
07/23/2011 21:46 Comments ||
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Fewer of these Fuhrer worshipers and the world be a better place.
Very few people were amused when Ward Churchill called the people working in the WTC on 9/11 'little Eichmanns.'
(KUNA) -- French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe on Friday welcomed the EU leaders approval of a new financial aid package to Greece to help it overcome its deteriorating debt crisis.
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The French minister said the decision was taken upon an initiative from French President Nicolas Sarkozy ...23rd and current President of the French Republic and ex officio Co-Prince of Andorra. Sarkozy is married to singer-songwriter Carla Bruni, who has a really nice birthday suit... and German Chancellor Angela Merkel. ...current chancellor of Germany. She was educated in East Germany when is was still run by commies, but in 1989 got involved with the growing democracy movement when the Berlin Wall fell. Merkel is sometimes referred to by Germans as Mom... Eurozone leaders and private creditors agreed on Thursday to give Greece a new 159-billion-euro bailout, risking a potential default to prevent the debt crisis from spreading worldwide.
The Greek deal was cheered in Asian and European stock markets in early trade on Friday and gave the euro a boost after weeks of turbulence that sucked Italia and Spain into the debt spiral.
They also vowed to keep supporting the two other eurozone nations that have received bailouts, Portugal and Ireland, until they are stable enough to borrow on the private markets again.
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Update by Norwegian police: the shooting lasted 1.5 h
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