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If he hates muslims / immigrants so much why kill Blond Norwegians? Gert Wilders has to disown this guy. This whole thing stinks of Mc Veigh just a nut looking for a cause
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But Norway has no death penalty. Norwegian law can't even keep this murderous thug in jail for more than 21 years. Since the killer apparently dreams of starting a Knights Templar war against Islam and cultural Marxism, Norway's PC justice system will give him 21 years to write his manifesto while recruiting alienated skinheads for his cause.
I have been privileged to visit Oslo and to have know a Norwegian clan for 20 years. In one wine enhanced after dinner conversation with one of the tribe, my Norwegian friend said his biggest problem with America was its acceptance of the death penalty.
OK, he was a Theology student, so not much different than having the same conversation with a parish priest- "No government can play the roll of God" vs my Texas sun baked argument that rabid dogs can't be allowed at the church picnic- some people just need killin'.
After an appropriate amount of time, and a couple of bottles of wine, I intend to ask him if he still feels the same way in light of this tragedy.
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Capsu78 "In one wine enhanced after dinner conversation" I have heard this sort of thing before. This was a very happy socialist country. Everything they have done in oil, fishing, cruse lines are booming. They have the lowest crime rate in twenty years. Rape is the only crime that has increased. Women go out in pares now. They frown on smoking and frown on drinking. Most of my relatives would bristle at the thought of drinking. In two weeks I will meet several at our family reunion. This all will be downplayed. Socialism is king there. They have put God in the back seat of the bus. What will they do? more of the same. This side of my family I can say I know of one true constant, drinking is not allowed nor for their children. They are downright harsh about it. This will be a dry reunion guaranteed.
Just to speak of Norwegian Glogg I got lectured.
Link is to original Norwegian source.
Anders Breivik Copied the Unabomber's Manifesto, parts 6 to 23, which he incorporated into his own manifesto. So the translation just amounts to Unibomber text.
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The guy did a boatload of anabolic steroids in the months before the attacks, plus caffeine and effedra. I half expected to see PCP in there too ....
Notable for a few interesting details about the perp.
OSLO: The Norwegian charged with killing at least 92 people in a gun and bomb massacre had belonged to an anti-immigration party and wrote blogs attacking multiculturalism and Islam.
Police said Anders Behring Breivik, detained by police after 85 people were gunned down at a youth camp and another 7 killed in a bomb attack on Friday, was unknown to them and his Internet activity traced so far included no calls to violence.
In comments from 2009-2010 to other people's articles on website www.document.no, which calls itself critical of Islam, Breivik criticized European policies of trying to accommodate the cultures of different ethnic groups.
"When did multiculturalism cease to be an ideology designed to deconstruct European culture, traditions, identity and nation-states?" said one of his entries, posted on Feb. 2, 2010.
Another entry dated Feb. 16 last year said: "According to two studies, 13 percent of young British Muslims aged between 15 and 25 support Al-Qaeda ideology."
Breivik wrote he was a backer of the "Vienna School of Thought", which was against multiculturalism and the spread of Islam.
He also wrote he admired Geert Wilders, the populist anti-Islam Dutch politician, for following that school.
Wilders said in a statement on Saturday: "I despise everything he stands for and everything he did."
Good for him.
Nina Hjerpset-Ostlie, a contributing journalist to the website, said she had met Breivik at a meeting in late 2009. He seemed keen to develop the website as a way to counter what he saw as prevailing trends of multiculturalism.
Oslo deputy police chief Roger Andresen would not speculate on the motives for what was believed to be the deadliest attack by a lone gunman anywhere in modern times.
Breivik bought six tons of fertilizer before the massacre, the supplier said Saturday as police investigated witness accounts of a second shooter.
Norway's royal family and prime minister led the nation in mourning, visiting grieving relatives of the scores of youth gunned down at an island retreat, as the shell-shocked Nordic nation was gripped by reports that the gunman may not have acted alone.
The queen and the prime minister hugged when they arrived at the hotel where families are waiting to identify the bodies. Both king and queen shook hands with mourners, while the prime minister, his voice trembling, told reporters of the harrowing stories survivors had recounted to him.
A man who said he was carrying a knife was detained by police officers outside the hotel. He told reporters as he was led away that he was carrying the weapon because he didn't feel safe.
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Uh...no. Not cool. Unless "one of us" means mass murderer.
This is going to be used by the left to crack down on dissidents. Despite the fact that when Islamic terrorism occurs, it requires tolerance and understanding.
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Yes. In the wake of 9/11 the left came out with the usual litany of why America deserved it, accumulating all the perceived and interpreted 'wrongs' it had perpetrated upon the world. Now that the left has a taste of a similar act, do you think they'll step back and engage in the self evaluation that they demand of others? /rhet question
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New information. Apparently, the day before the shooting, the youth camp had been addressed by the Foreign Minister, who was met with, and in support of a Norwegian boycott of Israel and backing of a Palestinian State.
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The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.
During the second day of Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya got the Labour Partys young hopefuls visit by Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store.
Together with Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation correspondent Sidsel Wold and Norwegian Peoples Aid Kirsten Belck-Olsen, the Foreign Minister discussed of the deadlock between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
As the foreign minister arrived at Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.
The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.
Earlier this week, when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas visited Norway, the Minister said to TV 2 news channel that Norway stands ready to recognize a Palestinian state.
"We are ready to recognize a Palestinian state. I await the actual resolution text Palestinians will promote the UN General Assembly in September," said the Minister.
In autumn it is expected that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will bring the matter to the UN. He is expected to ask for UN membership and recognition of a Palestinian state within the borders before the 1967 war, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
On Wednesday AUF leader Eskil Pedersen said that the AUF wants a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side.
"Labour Youth will have a more activist Middle East policy and we have to recognize Palestine. We have to get the peace process into a new track," said Pedersen.
The foreign minister admitted that the situation is untenable, but believes that the boycott is the wrong tool.
"The boycott will be to move from dialogue to monologue. It will be difficult to open the door on the day that we will talk with Israel," said the Minister.
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Regardless of what was discussed at the camp, whether it was boycott of Israel or recognition of a Paleo state, none of it justifies gunning down kids. Kind of ironic, considering that it's what we condemn when the Paleos do it.
No more posts on this. No more comments on this. Especially our 'Canadian' commenter with the bogus IP.
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Breivik criticized European policies of trying to accommodate the cultures of different ethnic groups.
Guess Norway didn't get the memo from Mrs. Merkel, President Nicolas Sarkozy of France and Prime Minister David Cameron in Britain all recently declared an end to multiculturalism. Multiculturalism has failed, utterly failed, The Rubicon has been crossed and there will be a massive backlash against politically enforced Multiculturalism, which was warned against by Powell when he said "I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'" which horribly came true at Utoya.
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OSLO: The Norwegian charged with killing at least 92 people in a gun and bomb massacre had belonged to an anti-immigration party and wrote blogs attacking multiculturalism and Islam.
Great. Just great. That series of faint pops and fizzes you just heard is the sound of champagne corks being launched across every newsroom and faculty lounge in the Western world. Think your average lefty journo or professor gives a rip about dozens of dead kids? Usually, maybe - but when their deaths serve the central narrative, maybe not so much.
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Does anybody remember how the "militia movement" largely died out after the OKC bombing? All the militia types quietly scurried away because they didn't want to be associated with the murderous scumbag Timmy McVeigh. The anti multicultural crowd will now meet the same fate. Nobody wants to be associated with this Norwegian murderer. The people who go on about "recognition of a Palestinian state", as if that's some kind of excuse, will further discredit their side. They are no different than people who go on about "the Joos" and "America's support of the Joos" when trying to excuse Islamic terrorism.
#10
Early on in the event it was speculated that both attacks were focused on the PM, a bomb outside his office, and that he was, or may have been scheduled to speak on the island.
A question exists as to how much planning the shooter put into this, based on local news reports of the event. That is, he arrived after the FM had left, but before the PM had arrived.
Other reports indicate that he was seen loitering around the area of the bomb blast as much as two hours later. The he drove about 25 miles to get to the ferry to take him to the island.
Wearing a police uniform, and carrying some container with his ammo, Devastator-type fragmenting bullets shows considerable planning. The island itself is 26 acres, 500m from the shore.
#11
It allows them more time to steal more wealth from America to help along their progressive sand dune dreams!Propping up a failed EU monetary system turning countries into states instead states into a country! EU
#12
sort of what other above said...Is it possible that the media and academia apologists for violent Islamists, who militate against the encroachment of Western influence in their countries, will also interpret Breiviks motivation the same way?
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"Used by the Left to crack down on dissidents" > the way the MSM-Net News keeps harping or referring back to "Ultra/Far-Right Extremism = Radicalism, methinks dissident crackdown will be just the beginning.
Iff the movie PEARL HARBOR was the Left's PDeniable, covert or subtle declaration of war agz the Right, "NORWAY" may becom its OVERT = OPEN DECLARATION OF WAR AGZ SAME, ALA "2012" + ESPEC IFF THE US DE FACTO DEFAULTS ON ITS DEBTS AFTER 08/02nd.
As per 9-11 + GWOT = "WAR FOR OWG-NWO", Radical Islam has its GLOBAL ISLAMIST-JIHADIST ORDER, i.e. "CALIPHATE", whilst US-World Socialism has its US, GLOBAL SOCIALIST-GOVTIST ORDER.
The Left thinks its safe because their movements are based or focused on POST-INDUSTRIAL/
MODERN "FIRST WORLD" NATIONS [US-West includ Russia + China] WID PRE-ESTABLISHED STRATEGIC NUCLEAR ARSENALS, BUT THATS WHY PER THE "ISLAMIST-JIHADIST BOMB" [LR Strategic, Terror NucWeaps], ISN'T IT!?
The Left is indeed stupid to think that post-2012 NUCLEAR? Radical Islam will not turn on it in the face of perceived ideo or geopol weakness, etc. on the part of the Left.
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The Left is indeed stupid to think that post-2012 NUCLEAR? Radical Islam will not turn on it in the face of perceived ideo or geopol weakness, etc. on the part of the Left.
They seem to be laboring under the delusion that, having been brothers-in-arms, the crocodile will not eat them despite having developed a taste for Western human flesh. Simply useful and tasty idiots.
[An Nahar] A burqa and niqab ban came into force in Belgium on Saturday with the threat of fines and jail time, but the law faced an immediate court challenge from two women who wear the full Islamic veil.
Belgium joined La Belle France as the second European Union ...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing... nation to enforce such a ban.
The Belgian law, which prohibits people from wearing anything that hides their face in public places, was approved unanimously by the parliament in April.
Offenders will face a fine of 137.50 Euros ($197) and up to seven days behind bars.
Two Mohammedan women who wear full veils decided Friday to challenge the ban in the country's constitutional court, Belgian media reported.
"We consider the law as a disproportionate intrusion into fundamental rights such as the freedom of religion and expression," Ines Wouters, the women's lawyer, was quoted as saying in the newspaper La Libre.
"This measure is discriminatory," Wouters said.
La Belle France -- home to Europe's biggest Mohammedan population -- became the first EU country to ban the burqa on April 11.
In La Belle France, a woman who repeatedly insists on appearing veiled in public can be fined 150 Euros and ordered to attend re-education classes.
The Council of Europe's human rights ...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions... commissioner, Thomas Hammarberg, criticized burqa and niqab bans this week, saying such measures threaten to exclude women rather than liberating them.
"In fact, the banning may run counter to European human rights standards, in particular the right to respect for one's private life and personal identity," he said.
"The way the dress of a small number of women has been portrayed as a key problem requiring urgent discussion and legislation is a sad capitulation to the prejudices of the xenophobes."
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[An Nahar] A burqa and niqab ban came into force in Belgium on Saturday with the threat of fines and jail time, but the law faced an immediate court challenge from two women who wear the full Islamic veil.
