Posted by: Steve White ||
08/09/2011 00:00 ||
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"People were forced to leap from the upstairs windows of a burning building in Croydon last night as rioting spread across London and beyond." Daily Telegraph
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Get with it! What did the US do to squelch the anti-police, Rodney King, riot? Send in the National Guard. Rioters began mingling with troops, and the whole think dissipated.
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Beat me to posting this BP. Looks like there is a class warfare kind of thing going on and that it is getting more widespread. Maybe it is just common thuggery/lawlessness and getting more widespread.
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Lovely to see Bright Pebbles, that the old England we know and love is still there, underneath. Y'all might want to make your next step neighborhood protection groups armed with pikers and lead pipe, in case the youts continue their binge.
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If you have a National Guard, you can do this. Otherwise, a few cops will be chased down the street by a mob, and the thin veneer of civilization falls away.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
08/09/2011 12:29 Comments ||
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Now, I'm not sure of the details leading up to man being capped i.e. whether he shot at police or they shot at themselves, but this is what happens when you become politically correct for 35 years and don't deal with 'citizens' living on the fringes (e.g. anarchists, Islamofascists, Christian wingnuts, etc). Don't use police, call in the Army, set a curfew, then give shoot-to-kill order for any looting.
Posted by: Shakey Steve ||
08/09/2011 12:39 Comments ||
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*click*. An interesting point, Shakey Steve. There is also the issue of the fast-moving mob, self-organized by Twitter, moving from place to place while the police lumber to catch up... Can Twitter be shut down for a single city code or region?
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when you become politically correct for 35 years and don't deal with 'citizens' living on the fringes (e.g. anarchists, Islamofascists, Christian wingnuts, etc)
We riot a lot we Christians. That's why it's so damn dangerous in Topeka on a Wednesday night!
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Correction. Christian wingnuts choose blowing up government buildings and slaughtering women and children with shotguns and AK-47s. My bad...
Posted by: Shakey Steve ||
08/09/2011 19:11 Comments ||
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Remember the online petition in England calling for a return to the death penalty, that made the 100k minimum number of signatures to mandate a parliamentary debate? Not only was it followed up by a Daily Mail poll, the first in decades, that showed 75% popular support for the death penalty, but now this:
A *new* petition is demanding that all of those convicted of rioting lose all government benefits. No more welfare or other benefits at all.
Anyone's guess whether it will make the 100,000 signatures needed to require parliamentary debate.
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#17 Correction. Christian wingnuts choose blowing up government buildings and slaughtering women and children with shotguns and AK-47s. My bad...
Posted by Shakey Steve
your talking points are amateurish and pathetic. Keep trying
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/09/2011 19:17 Comments ||
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not ready for prime-time trolling
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/09/2011 19:21 Comments ||
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Dang - and we used to attract such interesting trolls.... :-(
Posted by: Barbara ||
08/09/2011 19:39 Comments ||
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Posted by: Water Modem ||
08/09/2011 21:14 Comments ||
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I don't think that more police or sending in the army is the solution. This is just more of 'government will take care of us' stuff. Give citizens the right to use force to protect their property. Make it legal for a shop owner to stand in front of his/her store with a baseball bat and swing at the head of anyone who tries to loot it.
(KUNA) -- Britannia's capital was braced for its third night of rioting tonight as Scotland Yard beefed up its presence to deal robustly with looting thugs.
Police chiefs, politicians and community leaders condemned "opportunistic criminality" amid warnings of more widespread violence on London's streets.
More than 100 people were tossed in the calaboose overnight and early this morning after boroughs in north, south and east London fell victim to copycat rampages following trouble in Tottenham last Saturday.
As minor skirmishes broke out again between police and hooded youths in Hackney this afternoon, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said "big scars" would be left from consecutive nights of rioting.
Clegg, who returned from holiday this morning, condemned the violence earlier as "completely unacceptable".
Home Secretary Theresa May was arriving back in London to meet acting Metropolitan Police commissioner Tim Godwin.
Scenes of violence in Hackney echoed those in other areas of the capital over the past two nights, with skirmishes between gangs of youths and police, reportedly prompted by a stop and search incident earlier today.
Rioters, many wearing hoods and masks, were confronted by police lines spanning the width of streets, occasionally moving forward to push the groups back.
Officers in riot gear tried to control the situation, coming under fire from objects including chairs and pieces of wood.
At one point, several people broke into the back of a stationary lorry, pulling its contents out on to the road, with some hurling it at police and others using it to smash windows of a bus.
Later, UK Home Secretary Theresa May has condemned the riots that have blighted the UK capital for three days as "sheer criminality".
At least 215 people have been tossed in the calaboose and 25 charged following the riots across London, she said. Police chiefs, politicians and community leaders condemned "opportunistic criminality" amid a fresh wave of violence.
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Posted by: Fred ||
08/09/2011 00:00 ||
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LIVE UPDATES: London landmarks go up in flames amid reports of rioting gangs trying to break into homes.
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#7
My daughter and I were talking about this as we were walking the dog this morning: she has a lot of British cyber-friends and twitter-followers, some of whom live in London. She says she has often gotten a bit of stick from them on us being violent & gun-loving freaks ... but we were trying to imagine a similiar event taking place in San Antonio. Say a group of Southside gang-bangers came up to Retama Park for a rock concert or something, and decided to loot and vandalize the shops in the Forum and along Pat Booker road ... it would happen maybe once. Between local citizens, and the police forces of several separate towns, to include San Antonio proper, Bexar & Guadalupe counties, the state highway patrol ... they'd need some squeegees and mops to clean up all that would be left of the gangbangers.
I'm afraid, unless the forces of law enforcement in London grow a pair and start firing for effect, this is just going to escalate. The people who do have homes and businesses at risk must be close to the edge by now.
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This sounds like an organized insurrection. Parliament should send in the Army...
Posted by: Shakey Steve ||
08/09/2011 14:37 Comments ||
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"This sounds like an organized insurrection. Parliament should send in the Army..."
You mean the one they've cut to the bone?
Posted by: Barbara ||
08/09/2011 15:10 Comments ||
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Yes, that one :)
Posted by: Shakey Steve ||
08/09/2011 15:17 Comments ||
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These riots are a direct effect of the British Left's successful campaign to not only disarm the public, but imprison any and all British citizens that dare use force to defend themselves. The Korean merchants in LA showed the rioters there that there was a cost to trying to loot their shops; the British need a bunch of those guys with their AR-15s and the right to use same in self-defense in London about now. Of course, the rioting is not all bad news for everyone, the BNP has been pushing to repeal much of the British gun laws and have an armed public that has protection under the law to defend itself. They are probably going to gain seats in Parliament from this.
#13
Call out the Horse Guards or what ever the heck they're called. This goes for the same type of clowns that tore up the WI State Fair last week. If you wish to be treated like a human being act like one. If you act like an animal you should treated accordingly
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An M134 should be able to clear out a riot in short order, probably less than 2 minutes after deployment. Alternatively, Apaches can do a good job on large crowds as well.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Halliburton Lost Drill Bit Division ||
08/09/2011 19:21 Comments ||
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Vomit gas.
Use fire hoses to wash down the streets the next day.
Hard to loot when you're barfing your guts up in the gutter.
Posted by: Barbara ||
08/09/2011 19:36 Comments ||
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