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These riots were about race. Why ignore the fact?
h/t Instapundit
What colour is Mark Duggan? Mark Duggan is the man who was shot dead by the police on Thursday in Tottenham. The Tottenham riots last night were sparked when people protested his death. This morning, I first heard of the riots on the radio, then on the television. I read articles on the internet. But oddly, no one would say what colour Mark Duggan was. No one would say the unsayable, that the rioters were, I suspect on the whole, black. Then, finally, Toby Young's Telegraph blog post on the riots was published. Is Toby Young the only journalist out there who will dare say that these riots are about race?

Everywhere I read that the protest was understandable because "people are very angry".

I'd like to know what they're angry about. Mark Duggan is dead. He was shot by the police in a shootout. Duggan was in a minicab and shots were fired from both the cab and the police elsewhere. A police officer was hurt in the incident and a bullet was found lodged in a police radio.

At school I remember watching a presentation given to the kids by Trident, the Metropolitan Police Service unit set up to investigate and inform communities of gun crime in London's black community. I didn't know what Trident was then, and it struck me that all of the photos of people shot (the idea was to scare the kids) were black. So at the end, I approached one of the policemen and asked him what percentage of those involved in gun crime were black. I kid you not, but my question made this thirty-something white man who was, after all, trained to deal with the black community and its issues, turn pink.

He explained that about 80 per cent of gun crime took place in the black community. I smiled uncomfortably. But no, he said, it was worse than that. Then he told me that 80 per cent was black on black gun crime, and that of the remaining 20 per cent about 75 per cent involved at least one black person: black shooting white, or white shooting black.
The author has been teaching in inner London for over a decade and plans to set up a Free School in south London to help to serve underprivileged children. Not exactly an Archie Bunker type (like me).
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Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 08/10/2011 03:43 || Comments || Link || [11128 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would not say "race", so much as "races". Tottenham is actually recognized as the most multi-cultural, multi-ethnic place in all of Europe.

And while granted, perhaps the majority of its residents are Caribbean blacks, there are noticeable enclaves, which have been mentioned, of Turks, who fight the blacks that attack their turf; as well as Sikhs, who fight the blacks that attack their turf.

So while it is indeed about race, the underlying situation seems to be "blacks against everyone else". But even this is not entirely true, because if you look at pictures from the riot, a lot of the rioters are whites.

Lots of dynamics in these riots. I gather the EDL has announced that they are going to get involved, because "The police are incapable, and the government is unwilling."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/10/2011 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Urban violent crime is mostly white! Does't anyone watch the home burglary alarm commericals or cop shows on Teevee?
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/10/2011 11:23 Comments || Top||

#3  ...actually they're all zombies. The movies have confused everyone that those life/brain suckers somehow look visually different from normal homo sapiens. Ah, if it was only that easy.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/10/2011 11:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe at first. But from the pictures I've seen, it looked like an equal opportunity lootfest, especially in the cities outside London. Once the scumbags realized the cops wouldn't, or couldn't, do anything, they all crawled out from under their rocks.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/10/2011 12:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Ello folks , back in Blightey for a few weeks visiting relatives in Nottingham . Not the best time to be back I must confess . First night after 26 hour travel was spent with friends guarding property . Luckily no trouble flared in our neighourhood , I expect because these 'gangs' want easy targets . A mixed bunch we were , black , white , asian , christian , muslim , sikh (unfortunatley no buddists !)

The folk causing the trouble at our end are a bunch of opportunistic low life wanna be gangbangers , again a mixed bag of ethnicity - with one common denominator - gutlessness . When confronted , these halfwits crumble like the spineless dogs they are .

Canning Circus police station being firebombed

Timeline of events from last night

Ill post any juicy titbits as and when appropriate

Cheers :)
Posted by: MacNails || 08/10/2011 12:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Thanks for the report from the ground, MacNails. Y'all stay safe.

Posted by: Barbara || 08/10/2011 13:21 Comments || Top||

#7  The bulk of crimes are committed by young males. At some point the UK needs to find something for those young males to do, such as if you're on the dole more than a year (or whatever) you join the military (or similar service like cleaning toilets in schools and prisons or something) for a year or two.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/10/2011 18:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Tottenham did start on Saturday as a race riot but by Monday night it was only about 'yoof' smashing the place up and stealing anything that had any desirability or value.

The reason it morphed was the fact that police can't even effectively riot control because of a. not enough money to employ enough on duty officers b. pathetic politically correct policing making the police ineffective.
Also the underlying reason that mostly all of the 'yoof' give when asked why they rioted and destroyed everything is "there are no jobs or prospects for us".

Look at the areas that kicked off and look at the unemployment rates. Take a good look at the 16-25's unemployment rates in those areas. They ARE the highest rates in the country.

The riots were a factor of a few reasons coming together at once. However this mindless behaviour will only push shop prices up and insurance costs up.
It shut down places of employment for HUNDREDS of good honest people and delivered giant additional bills to the owners of many small businesses, many of which will now struggle and some even close, as a direct result of this behaviour of TOTAL IDIOTS.

Young and unemployed, you may have had a good argument and an ear of sympathy before this week started but today, I can guarantee this; there are even less employers willing to ‘give young people a break’. There will be even less money for ‘yoof support’ schemes. There will be overcrowding in prisons in the near coming months.

You are all a bunch of fucking idiots!
Posted by: Kojack || 08/10/2011 18:47 Comments || Top||


UK press reaction: 'Rioting-meets-shopping'
[Al Jazeera] British newspapers have responded to three nights of looting, arson and rage with scathing editorial broadsides aimed at the perpetrators and the forces alleged to have fostered them.

Those who torched homes, assaulted police and mashed-up shops in at least five cities were blasted by the press for sparking anarchy the Guardian called "an outburst of resentment and a mark of manifold failure" of government policies.

The Tuesday edition of The Sun put forth more colourful descriptions of events; one headline read "Descent into Hell" another "Flames of Hate". Yet another headline described the rioters as "street jackals" and "feral riot yobs", using the London slang term for thug.

A Daily Telegraph editorial called for action: "All politicians need to speak out robustly against these criminal elements who have been tolerated for far too long ... The police must crack down hard on this outbreak of summer lawlessness. In doing so, they will have the support of all decent people."

Other editorial lines were equally firm, reserving a special disregard for the motivations behind what the Daily Mirror called three days of "Yob Rule".

Paul Vallely, a columnist for The Independent, said the riots were characterised by "wanton consumerism" and cited examples of looters trying on clothes for size in the middle of the carnage.

Vallely wrote: "This is rioting-meets-shopping. It does not, as one eyewitness put it, feel like an 'appeal from the heart of the ghetto' so much as an opportunity 'to get a nice new pair of trainers'. Not so much desperate as decadent."

The violence was denounced in unison by the press corps, even if the reasons behind it fell along partisan lines.

Cameron 'out of touch'

Tim Shipman of The Daily Mail wrote: "Left-wing politicians have cynically sought to make political capital out of the riots, blaming government cuts for the orgy of violence ... Labour MPs and activists lined up to make excuses for the thugs, spouting claims that disadvantaged youth had no option but to smash up high streets."

But the rival Daily Mirror on Monday placed blame at the prime minister's office.

"David Cameron
... has stated that he is certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite, which means he's not. Since he is not deeply ideological he lacks core principles and is easily led. He has been described as certainly not a Pitt, Elder or Younger, but he does wear a nice suit so maybe he's Beau Brummel ...
's government isn't directly to blame for the orgy of violence but he is badly out of touch with the country he's supposed to lead ... Smouldering Tottenham, and an economy tottering on the brink of an abyss, emphasise Britannia's yearning for a prime minster with a sure touch ... Sadly, we're saddled with a Prime Spinner who prefers to smirk for the cameras."

Such ominous forebodings about unspecified societal collapse were common.

Mary Riddell, a columnist for the Daily Telegraph, wrote of "juvenile wrecking crews on the city streets" and claims a "'lost generation'is mustering for war".

Riddell wrote: "London's riots are not the Tupperware troubles of Greece or Spain, where the middle classes lash out against their day of reckoning. They are the proof that a section of young Britannia -- the stabbers, shooters, looters, chancers and their frightened acolytes -- has fallen off the cliff-edge of a crumbling nation."

Camila Batmanghelidjh, in a column in the Independent, added her voice to those who blamed social problems and government failures, in part, for the riots.

"How, we ask, could they attack their own community with such disregard? But the young people would reply 'easily', because they feel they don't actually belong to the community. Community, they would say, has nothing to offer them," Batmanghelidjh wrote.

Others, notably Richard Littlejohn of the Daily Mail, dismissed the role of socio-economic factors.

He wrote: "One thing is certain: this wasn't about poverty, not in the material sense. If there's poverty, it's spiritual poverty, moral poverty and poverty of ambition ... In countries where there's real deprivation, they have food riots. Here we have flat-screen TV riots."

Littlejohn was one of several commentators who refuted the early comparisons to the UK protests and riots in the 1980s.

"The other certainty is that this has nothing to do with the riots at Broadwater Farm 26 years ago," he wrote.

"This wasn't a political protest, or a demonstration against oppression, it was a grotesque manifestation of our shallow, instant gratification, I-want-it-and-I-want-it-now consumerist society, coupled with an extreme kaboom of the kind of casual violence which scars our town and city centres across Britannia every weekend."
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Posted by: Fred || 08/10/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11136 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Nothing to do wid the riots at Broadwater Farm 26 years ago" > Uh, uh, THANKS AGAIN FOR BRINGING UP A QUESTION NO ONE HAD ASKED???

IIUC ARTIC = most of the youthful rioters are simply COPYKATS = LEMMINGS whom are more engaged in SIMPLE CRIMINAL PROFITEERING vee the Riots + Social-Community Issues, + not tied to any one econ duress or ideology???

The reaction of the Youths = Rioters to these Medias is gonna be intehwesting.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/10/2011 0:51 Comments || Top||

#2  LEMMINGS whom are more engaged in SIMPLE CRIMINAL PROFITEERING

And why not? There is no one to stop them (although I did read about a group of Turkish shopkeepers with bats & pipes) and there are no consequences.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/10/2011 1:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Trouble in PC Paradise?
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 08/10/2011 3:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Large numbers of unemployed males, are trouble for any society
Posted by: Bernardz || 08/10/2011 6:16 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 Large numbers of unemployed unemployable males, are trouble for any society

FIFY
Posted by: Frank G || 08/10/2011 7:56 Comments || Top||

#6  RENSE > ABC.net/au = Australia BBC = BLAME FOR RIOTING TURNS TO UK SOCIAL SYSTEM [Welfare-Nanny State].

ARTIC = Tottenham, etc. Riots is the outcome of various Social factors = dysfunctions that had brewing between UK Govt + UK Society for a while.

RIOT YOUTHS > argue that the UK GOVT = STATE ALWAYS KEEPS DEMANDING + PROSECUTING, ETC. BUT NEVER HELPS OR GIVES BACK, OR IN THE ALTERN NEVER HELPS OR GIVES BACK TO THE SAME DEGREE.

The Welfare-Nanny State starts off good in the beginning, but over time devols into NO JOBS, ETC. + [ultimately] NOW EVEN LITTLE-TO-NO $$$.

* NEWS KERALA > "LAWLESS LONDON LOOKS MUCH LIKE IT DID THREE CENTURIES AGO [300 Years = 18th century], SAYS EXPERT.


Noted author Clive Bloom.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/10/2011 22:55 Comments || Top||


Riots spread through UK cities
[Dawn] Violence and looting raged across London and spread to three other major British cities on Tuesday, as authorities struggled to contain the country's most serious unrest since race riots set the capital ablaze in the 1980s.

In London, a third straight night of disorder saw buildings, vehicles and garbage dumps set alight, stores looted and coppers pelted with bottles and fireworks, as groups of young people rampaged through neighborhoods. It was an unwelcome reminder of London's volatility for leaders organizing the 2012 Summer Olympics in less than a year.

As authorities struggled to keep pace with unrest unfolding at flashpoints across London, the violence spread to the central city of Birmingham, the western city of Bristol and the northwestern city of Liverpool. Prime Minister David Cameron
... has stated that he is certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite, which means he's not. Since he is not deeply ideological he lacks core principles and is easily led. He has been described as certainly not a Pitt, Elder or Younger, but he does wear a nice suit so maybe he's Beau Brummel ...
cut short his summer vacation in Italia and was headed home for a meeting of the national crisis committee on Tuesday morning.

The riots appeared to have little unifying cause -- though some involved in the violence claimed to be motivated by government cuts to public spending.

The government was aiming to toughen its stance against the violence, as some communities complained that stretched police were struggling to contain the unrest with rioters plundering from stores at will, menacing shocked customers at restaurants and attempting to invade homes. Stores shut early across London, fearful of violence and looting.

Violence first broke out late Saturday in London's northern Tottenham district when a peaceful protest over the fatal police shooting of Mark Duggan, a 29-year-old father of four who was bumped off in disputed circumstances Thursday, turned violent.

Two police cars and a double-decker bus were set alight, stores were looted and several buildings along Tottenham's main street -- five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of the 2012 Olympics -- were reduced to smoldering shells.

Duggan's death stirred old animosities and racial tensions which prompted riots in the 1980s, despite efforts by London police to build better relations with the city's ethnic communities after high-profile cases of racism in recent decades.

As the unrest spread, some pointed to rising social tensions in Britannia as the government slashes 80 billion pounds ($130 billion) from public spending by 2015 to reduce the huge deficit, swollen after the country spent billions bailing out its foundering banks.

In south London, a massive blaze swept through a 100-year-old family run furniture store in the borough of Croydon and sent thick plumes of smoke into the air, forcing nearby homes to be evacuated. Police also confirmed they were investigating a nonfatal shooting in Croydon, but were unable to say whether the incident was linked to the chaos.

Dozens of people attacked shops in Birmingham's main retail district, and clashed with police in Liverpool and Bristol -- spreading the chaos beyond London for the first time.

In the Hackney area of east London, hundreds of youths attacked shops and set fire to cars, leaving a trail of burning trash and shattered glass. Looters ducked into a small convenience store as the blackened shells of two cars burned nearby, filling plastic shopping bags with alcohol, cigarettes, candy and toilet paper.

"This is the uprising of the working class. We're redistributing the wealth," said Bryn Phillips, a 28-year-old self-described anarchist, as young people emerged from the store with chocolate bars and ice cream cones.

Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and krazed killer right-wing politics in the United States.

"In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this," he said.

Police acknowledged Tuesday that major new bouts of violence had flared in at least five locations, badly stretching their resources. Many more neighborhoods saw mobs vandalize commercial streets or break into buildings -- some acting with virtual impunity, as authorities struggled to deploy officers to every scene of unrest.

"The violence we have seen is simply inexcusable. Ordinary people have had their lives turned upside down by this mindless thuggery," police commander Christine Jones said, as she confirmed that 239 people had been placed in long-term storage and 45 people charged with offenses.

Though the unrest escalated through Sunday as disorder spread among neighboring areas, the crisis worsened Monday -- with violence touching areas in the east and south of London previously untroubled by the chaos.

"There is significant disorder breaking out in a number of our communities across London," Tim Godwin, the acting London police commissioner said Monday, acknowledging that 1,700 extra officers had been deployed across London, but were struggling to halt the unrest.

Some residents called for police to deploy water cannons to disperse rioters, or call on the military for support.

About 100 young people clashed early Tuesday with police in the Camden and Chalk Farm areas of north London, while others tore through a department store in the busy south London suburb of Clapham.

The small groups of youths -- most with their heads and faces covered -- used SMS messages, instant messaging on BlackBerry smartphones and social media such as Twitter to coordinate their attacks and stay ahead of the police.

Once the preserve of businesspeople, BlackBerry handsets are popular with teenagers, thanks to their free, fast instant messaging system. Blackberry's manufacturer, Research in Motion, said in a statement that it was assisting authorities in their investigation and "feel for those impacted by the riots in London."

Police were also monitoring Twitter, and warned that those who posted messages inciting the violence could face arrest.

In the Peckham district of south London, where a building was set ablaze along with a bus -- which was not carrying passengers -- onlookers said the scene resembled a conflict zone. Cars were torched in nearby Lewisham, and shops looted in south London's Clapham district.

"There's been tension for a long time. The kids aren't happy. They hate the police," said Matthew Yeoland, a 43-year-old teacher watching the unrest in Peckham.

"It's like a war zone and the police weren't doing anything. There were too many people and not enough police."

Police said Duggan was rubbed out last week when police from Operation Trident -- the unit that investigates gun crime in the black community -- stopped a cab he was riding in.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating the shooting, said a "non-police firearm" was recovered at the scene, and media reports said a bullet had been found in an officer's radio. However,
denial ain't just a river in Egypt...
the Guardian newspaper reported that the bullet in the radio was police-issue, indicating Duggan may not have fired at the officer.

Duggan's partner, Semone Wilson, insisted Monday that her fiance was not connected to gang violence and urged police to offer more information about his death. But she said the riots appeared to be no longer linked to the initial protests.

"It got out of hand. It's not connected to this anymore. This is out of control," she said.

Many Tottenham residents claimed that the looting was the work of greedy youths -- rather than fueled by anti-police sentiments.

"It's nothing to do with the man who was shot, is it?" said 37-year-old Marcia Simmons, who has lived in the diverse and gritty north London neighborhood all her life. "A lot of youths ... heard there was a protest and joined in. Others used it as an opportunity to kit themselves out, didn't they, with shoes and T-shirts and everything."

The past year has seen mass protests against the tripling of student tuition fees and cuts to public sector pensions. In November, December and March, small groups broke away from large marches in London to loot. In the most notorious episode, rioters attacked a Rolls-Royce carrying Prince Charles and his wife Camilla to a charity concert.

However,
a hangover is the wrath of grapes...
the full impact of spending cuts has yet to be felt and the unemployment rate is stable -- although it remains highest among youth, especially in areas like Tottenham, Hackney and Croydon.

Some residents insisted that joblessness was not to blame. "It's just an excuse for the young ones to come and rob shops," said Brixton resident Marilyn Moseley, 49.

Godwin urged communities to help clear the streets of people, and called on families to contact their children and ensure that they were not involved in the chaos. An 11-year-old boy was charged with burglary by police, and at least 100 of those placed in long-term storage were aged 21 or younger. About 35 coppers had been injured in the violence, police said.

Home Secretary Theresa May, the Cabinet minister responsible for policing, and London Mayor Boris Johnson also cut short summer vacations in an attempt to deal with the crisis.

Police in the city of Birmingham, 120 miles (195 kilometers) north of London, confirmed that officers had placed in long-term storage 35 people amid disorder across the city center, where shops were being vandalized. In Bristol, police urged residents to avoid the city center after 150 rioters went on the rampage.

In the south London neighborhood of Brixton -- the scene of riots in the 1980s and 1990s -- youths smashed windows, attacked a police car, set fire to garbage bins and stole video games, sportswear and other goods from stores on Sunday night.

Like Brixton, Tottenham is an impoverished area with an ethnically diverse population, a large black community and a history of unrest.

Tottenham was the site of the 1985 Broadwater Farm riots, a series of festivities that led to the fatal stabbing of a police officer and the wounding of nearly 60 others -- and underscored tensions between London police and the capital's black community.

West Ham, a football team in east London, confirmed it had canceled a match planned for Tuesday and said police had asked for "all major public events" to be postponed.

However,
women are made to be loved, not understood...
the national Football Association insisted that a scheduled international friendly match between England and the Netherlands would go ahead at Wembley Stadium on Wednesday.

The International Olympic Committee said it had confidence in British authorities.

"Security at the Olympic Games is a top priority for the IOC," front man Mark Adams said.
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Posted by: Fred || 08/10/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11136 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Riots...coming to your town soon!"

I didn't want to be first, but here you are:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/09/pennsylvania.curfew/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Posted by: Skidmark || 08/10/2011 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Forget the plastic bulets, until you shoot to Kill this crap will spread.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/10/2011 0:13 Comments || Top||

#3  An anarchist, wanting money from a government, claims it is Tea Party behavior.

Sloppy.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 08/10/2011 0:22 Comments || Top||

#4  If, and it's a BIG if, there is some truth to the "protesting gov't. cuts" meme. I can actually sympathise to some degree.

If gov't is up against the wall financially the first things to go have to be the obscene salaries and perks of the parasites, especially at the top. Here that would mean cutting all salaries above some minimum ($50,00?) by 25%. Redo all pensions so that they are merged into social security. Look at lay-offs and hiring freezes for the long term.

Will this solve the finances? No. BUT, it would help AND it would start the process of regaing respect for the institutions which is, as I understand it the main problem in UK.

If even the middle class, the support base for the police holds them in contempt along with the rest of the justice system, then there is nothing to restrain the rioters at all. Democratic, sovereign gov't. (of by for) all hinges on the belief of the citizenry that the gov't by and large works for them.

I think that trust is rapidly fading here and in the UK it's worse.
Posted by: AlanC || 08/10/2011 8:45 Comments || Top||

#5  The looters have admitted that they're looting because "there's nothing else to do, there's no jobs". I'm of the opinion that one or two incidence of Lead Poisoning by store-owners would stop the riots quite quickly.
Posted by: Charles || 08/10/2011 9:45 Comments || Top||

#6  What’s the cause of the riot? I’m guessing lack of incoming fire.
Posted by: Beavis || 08/10/2011 10:08 Comments || Top||


#8  "Rule .303 is now in effect - conduct yourselves accordingly. Looters will be shot on sight."
Posted by: mojo || 08/10/2011 11:48 Comments || Top||

#9  Validation about the worth of a commitment to a multi-cultural society. Not multi-racial, but multi-cultural. It leads to self-segragation, and eventually, for those from cultures (not races) without an enterprise/self-reliance ethic, to dependence on government largesse. When the money runs out and the subsidy to peaceful indolence decreases, the violent youth, especially those who have reverance for the "gangsta) ethic, display their nature.
A salutory note for other Western nations, including ours.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 08/10/2011 13:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Well, I had wondered how far Britain had fallen. Looks like "pretty fucking far".

Farewell.
Posted by: DarthVader || 08/10/2011 14:50 Comments || Top||

#11  Cameron has authorized use of water cannon on British main isle for the first time. They have been used in Northern Ireland for some time before.
Long past time for rubber bullets, teargas, curfews, radio jamming, etc. Getting near time for real bullets & grapeshot.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/10/2011 15:06 Comments || Top||

#12  This is what you get with mass immigration from the 60's onwards!

Look up what Enoch Powell said in the 60's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech


Posted by: Paul D || 08/10/2011 17:22 Comments || Top||

#13  "Rivers of Blood speech". "Margaret Thatcher thought that although some of Powell's speech was "strong meat". Powell was ahead of his time.
Paul D thank you. England has had more of it's fair share of great speakers. I will return now to read more of this man. Like a lighthouse beacon in the night he pointed the way but they continued lost.
Posted by: Dale || 08/10/2011 18:34 Comments || Top||

#14  Shame really. He stood his ground. He presented a problem and offered a solution. He could have looked the other way and avoided all the later difficulties. Sweep it under the rug he said but he said no he would do it again. This is how things are done in many countries. Much of what he spoke of has come to pass. Beatles "Get Back to where you once belonged" tune was of the time.
The will of the majority was ignored. Tide of immigration has overwhelmed the indigenous population. Race card only works for all others.
Posted by: Dale || 08/10/2011 20:07 Comments || Top||

#15  When various colo(u)red PRIDE trump "(British) national" parties, that is when bigotry reigns. It is sad when TRUE patriotism is stained by German Socialist nationalism. At a certain point, standing up for the Nation transcends the mere politics of a next election.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/10/2011 23:04 Comments || Top||


Residents vent anger at London mayor Boris Johnson
(KUNA) -- London mayor Boris Johnson faced a barrage of criticism Tuesday from angry residents as he toured the devastation in riot-hit Clapham with Home Secretary Theresa May.

Johnson, who flew back from his summer holiday early today, as the violence escalated across the capital, said: "I want to say to everybody who runs a shop or owns a business here how very sorry I am for the loss and the damage you have suffered.

"I also want to say to the people who have been involved in instigating these riots and those who have been robbing and stealing that they will be caught, they will be apprehended and they will face punishments they will bitterly regret," adding "I know there are questions about the police response and police numbers. We are certainly going to be dealing with those."

One woman told him: "I was in a salon when a brick came through the window and no one was here to defend me." Another woman shouted at the mayor, urging him to resign. Johnson struggled to make himself heard as he said: "Tonight we are going to have a huge number of police on the streets."

He added: "It is time that people who are engaged in looting and violence stopped hearing economic and social justification for what happened."

The mayor, who was eventually guided away from the crowds and television cameras, followed other leaders by ending his stay abroad to join efforts to quell the violence that has blighted London. The move came despite Johnson's aides previously insisting he could deal with the burgeoning crisis remotely as if "he was sitting in his office".

Johnson arrived at a cordon outside Clapham Junction station where members of the public gathered. He was greeted by the sight of a burnt-out fancy dress shop being hosed down by firefighters, surrounded by litter strewn on the streets and smashed windows. Crowds of people armed with brooms waited for permission to enter the cordon, which covered St John's Hill and Lavender Hill, to start a clean-up operation - a movement started on Twitter.

The mayor walked the length of devastated streets, past window after window of shops that were smashed in the riots last night.

Johnson received a mixed reaction veering from almost carnival spirit to anger and rage. He managed to turn ill-feeling to positive at one point by taking hold of a broom and thanking crowds for turning out.

Johnson paid tribute to the army of volunteers hoping to sweep Clapham's streets. He said: "Thank you very much to everybody who has come here to clear up the mess. "That is the spirit of London."

When asked by one angry resident why he had not come home from his holiday earlier, the mayor replied: "I came as fast as I could."

He said police had been overstretched but that same situation would not happen again. Johnson told the crowd: "It's time we heard a little bit less about the sociological justifications for what is in my view nothing less than wanton criminality."

He told waiting media: "I do not want to see a repetition of the events of last night.

"It's time for London and the majority of innocent law-abiding Londoners to reclaim their streets.

"In 2012, next year, we are going to be welcoming the world to our city and it's a great city, it's a peaceful and fundamentally safe city and when they come they will find one of the safest big cities.

"We have time in the next 12 months to rebuild, to repair the damage that has been done, to rebuild these buildings that have been destroyed.

"I'm not saying it will be done overnight, but this is what we are going to do."

The mayor blamed the situation on a "mental contagion" taking over youths' minds. "And when it does stop they will regret bitterly what they have done."

Home Secretary Theresa May, during the same visit to Clapham as Johnson, said: "This is pure criminality, all this looting, thieving and rioting.

"What we are doing tonight is putting on double the number of police, but crucially we are arresting the people who are perpetrating crime." She said those who had committed crimes would be identified using CCTV images which will be released, and then brought to justice.
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Posted by: Fred || 08/10/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11137 views] Top|| File under:

#1  At least Johnson came home, and cut his holiday short, unlike other so called 'leaders' we all know and (don't)love.....
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 08/10/2011 0:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Why didn't they call out the army?
Posted by: anonymous2u || 08/10/2011 3:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I think all dozen of their platoons must be in Afghanistan or Libya.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/10/2011 10:24 Comments || Top||

#4  "I also want to say to the people who have been involved in instigating these riots and those who have been robbing and stealing that they will be caught, they will be apprehended and they will face punishments they will bitterly regret,"

How's he gonna keep that promise?

Maybe the folks in London are unaccustomed to this sort of thing. But the only way to stop looters is to shoot the bastards in the streets. Issue shotguns to the cops, impose a curfew and shoot the violators. This has gone on for far too long. Put a chill into their spirits at the outset and cut the rioting short. Don't make any apologies and don't make any promises you can't keep.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 08/10/2011 12:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Well this is embarrassing...

Ahmadinejad urges UN to react on Britain riot

Heh. I'll bet the Blue Helmets would make the British cops look like Chuck Norris...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/10/2011 12:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Mr. Johnson, when are you going to authorize deployment of the vomit gas? Right before the mobs get to your home?
Posted by: Barbara || 08/10/2011 13:25 Comments || Top||

#7  As follw-up per #5, + ala FREEREPUBLIC, ISLAMIC MILITANTS are repor using online resources to call for British Rioters = UK Muslims to OVERTHROW THE BRITISH GOVT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/10/2011 20:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Londoners voted for this worthless fucktard. You reap what you sow people. Learn from this and never vote for someone who disregards your liberty. Because without liberty, you will never have safety or any other thing that is most important to you.

Liberty is the word which means taking care of your interests without imposing on others. This is something you can never compromise.
Posted by: rammer || 08/10/2011 23:21 Comments || Top||



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