#2
Not sure about 1), but definitely agree with 2) and 3). And I like how the author excuses it as some sort of psy. grouping thing a la that prison experiment in the 1970s. All I can say is that I am CERTAIN that I wouldn't have joined in, call me crazee...there is no excuse for this crap at any time for any reason...
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#3
..reminds me of the vids of the cops in New Orleans among the looters in a Walmart store, pushing a cart of goods towards the door. However, let's not forget the real looting that took place when the market started to tumble in 2008 and the people with influence got the Administration and Congress to loot the public treasury to cover their loses investments in financial institutions. Now there was some serious looting, though done with style rather than crass trailer park abandoned.
#4
So what drives privileged or seemingly virtuous people to do bad things?
Good lord! Station in life is not an indicator of virtue or ethics. Mob mentality...blah..blah...blah. Every year we witness sports fans go on destructive rampages after the big game. (And that's after their team wins!) Now contrast that with the orderly behavior of the Japanese after the earthquake, tsunami, and nuke disaster. Stealing the proverbial loaf of bread to feed your family is one thing. Stealing a big screen TV cause everyone else is...well that's something quite different altogether.
#5
Since the writer mentions the Sanford Experiment to push her explaination I figure I'll link to the Skeptoid transcript about said experiment:
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4102
Jump down to the bullet points for the rebutting and analysis.
#11
See also CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [UK Historian-Radio Broadcaster] DAVE STARKEY CLAIMS THAT "THE WHITES HAVE BECOME BLACKS". HISTORIAN PROVOKES WAVES OF CRITICISM AFTER [alleged Racist] REMARKS SURING TELEVISED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RIOTS ON BBC2'S NEWSNIGHT.
[Ex-POTUS BILL "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE US" CLINTON here].
and
* SAME > UK PM DAVID CAMERON CONSIDERING
"COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT" FOR RIOTERS' FAMILIES' MEMBERS, i.e. forced expulsion = ban from low-cost Public Flats = Public Housing???
A SUSPECTED al-Qaeda chief detained in Britain has been freed on bail after penning a hand-written statement to show he has had a "change of heart" on terrorism.
The man, said by MI5 to have had links to Osama Bin Laden and a senior role in an Afghan terror training camp, has been let out to live with a pal.
"Go and sin ye no more!"
One MP last night branded the decision "insane" while a terror expert called it "worrying".
The Algerian, who can be identified only as "U", was detained in 2001 after arriving in Britain from Afghanistan in 1999. He has been behind bars or under house arrest since.
And why, exactly, must he be known only by an initial?
"U" has been officially classified as an "active terrorist head of a group of individuals in the UK with an international reach".
MI5 believe he had direct links to recently shot former al-Qaeda chief Bin Laden AND terrorists plotting to bomb Strasbourg Cathedral in France and Los Angeles Airport.
Britain wants to deport him to Algeria, where he could be jailed, over fears he is a danger here.
Certainly sounds dangerous. Certainly doesn't sound 'British'. Brits ought to deport him. If they can't send him to Algeria, send him to Gitmo. Or Ice Station Zebra.
He is appealing to the Supreme Court against the move. His lawyers applied for his release on bail to the Special Immigration Appeals Commission.
Mr Justice Mitting, the judge in his case, said "U" had produced a written statement in which he "signalled a change of heart".
Does he also have prostate cancer? Only three months to live?
He said: "I am conscious, of course, that it may all be for show. But if it is for show, it has been the work of a highly-skilled actor.
"What he says in his statement is that he wished to have the chance to show 'how I and my world views have changed. I have seen the chaos and suffering caused by war and violence and want to see another way'."
Tory MP Douglas Carswell said: "This insane decision shows our courts have turned to mush."
Terrorism expert Neil Doyle added: "It is very worrying." The Home Office said: "We continue to seek the deportation of this individual."
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Posted by: Frank G on the road ||
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#3
Personally, for the hard cases, I think it would be best to put them on some of those barren islands off Scotland, with all the oatmeal and seagulls they can eat. They can live in rock huts, and have some goats to use for milk and wool.
Former New York and Los Angeles police chief Bill Bratton will advise the British government on tackling the street gangs blamed for the violence that raged nationwide this week. Bratton, who had private talks with British Prime Minister David Cameron on Friday, said there are lessons from the United States that were relevant to the situation in England. Bratton, who since 2009 has worked for private security consultancy Altegrity and its subsidiary Kroll, is seen as having taken bold steps to cut crime rates in New York and Los Angeles.
Bratton said he believed the British government could overcome the problem, adding: "I support their resolve to seize upon this difficult situation as an opportunity to address the issues of gangs and gang violence and the resulting fear and disorder head-on." Meanwhile, Cameron has angered some senior police officers by saying he thought that initially there were "simply far too few police deployed onto the streets" in London, and that "the tactics they were using weren't working."
"Police chiefs have been frank with me about why this happened," he said Thursday. "Initially, the police treated the situation too much as a public order issue rather than essentially one of crime."
As was noted at Instapundit, the British are policing everything except crime...
#1
Bratton got his start here in Boston. My father in law and my wife knew him. Said he'd never be satisfied until he was named Police Commissioner of the Universe.
#2
maybe he should have beaten the gang problem in LA an New York before giving advice!
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08/14/2011 1:01 Comments ||
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#3
The PukeK has so many problems internals, why is it that they had the absurd ability to listen to Michael Savage and make a determination that he was a threat to their country and put him on their watch list? How come no enterprising journalist doesn't ask the Whore Secretary, how much time and resources where expended that came up with such a conclusion?
Posted by: Jack Salami ||
08/14/2011 10:57 Comments ||
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#4
Someone, please send for Colour Sergeant Frank Edward Bourne; B Coy, 2nd/24th Foot immedately. He'll know what to do!
#6
No one can solve the gang problem in LA. NY's doing pretty well. And, after all, the NYPD is pretty much the only city police force in the world with a foreign policy. Look at Judith Miller's articles at City Journal for details.
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#9
Because of the racial politics in LA and illegal aliens flooding into the city. Until you can get the racial politics sidelined and everyone to agree to use what force is necessary to break the gangs, they will rule sections of LA. Remember, regardless of what Hollywood likes to pretend, most gangs in LA are racially exclusive.
And the illegals just fill up the foot soldier sections of the gangs in LA, and get their training and their contacts in place during their time in LA. Several of the most dangerous gangs in Central America use LA as their training base, and so when they are deported, they already have a criminal skill set that they can use back home.
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