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Berlin prosecutor nixes circumcision complaint
Prosecutors in Germany's capital city dismissed a criminal complaint lodged against popular local Rabbi Yitshak Ehrenberg over "causing bodily harm" by performing ritual circumcision, according to a document obtained by The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.

A complaint was filed against the Jerusalem-born Rabbi on July 12, and dismissed as unfounded in an August 15 letter. The prosecution’s dismissal document concluded that there is no proof to establish that the Rabbi’s conduct met the "condition of a criminal” violation. In response to Ehrenberg’s appearance on the German talk show "Anne Will,” the Rabbi announced that “we will continue" with circumcisions because it is a core feature of Judaism.

The Post learned on Wednesday that the city of Berlin, which is one of sixteen Federal German States, is considering not implementing the June Cologne court decision outlawing Jewish and Muslim circumcisions.The Berlin prosecutor office’s document suggests that the Berlin government rejects the Cologne decision. According to the prosecutor’s letter “even if a non-medical circumcision were to take place it would not meet the elements of severe bodily harm.”

A German doctor filed a criminal charge earlier in August against Rabbi David Goldberg for performing circumcision. Dr. Sebastian Guevara Kamm from Giessen in the German state of Hesse, lodged the complaint on the basis a June ruling in Cologne, the North Rhine- Westphalia state, that "non-medical circumcision is a serious and irreversible interference in the integrity of the human body

The local prosecutor’s office is still investigating the complaint against Goldberg. The mohel, or person trained in the practice of Jewish circumcision, sees the complaint as part of an anti-Semitic campaign spreading throughout the Federal Republic.
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Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/30/2012 13:26 || Comments || Link || [11151 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Nazis didn't even stoop that low.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/30/2012 14:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm surprised that Muslims haven't spoken up. IIRC, Muslims also circumcise their young boys, although the requirement isn't as strong as in Judaism. I can't wait until someone files a criminal complaint against an Imam.

According to Wikipedia, Mohamed was born without a foreskin, so his followers had themselves circumcised to imitate him.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 08/30/2012 17:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Mohamed was born without a foreskin

Mohamed was a Jew?
Posted by: SteveS || 08/30/2012 19:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I was discussing this with Mr. Wife this morning, and it is his considered opinion that this is not actually antisemitic -- although it may be anti-Muslim -- but rather that Germans, and Europeans in general, see male circumcision as being as barbaric as female circumcision. And indeed, the original Cologne case involved a Muslim child, not a Jewish infant. A rather responsible Muslim family, in fact, who sought modern medical treatment at a German hospital when complications developed, and were punished for it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/30/2012 19:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Male circumcision is sometimes medically indicated. News doesn't say whether or not Germany has banned that as a medical procedure also. Whether done for medical or religious reasons, procedure can have complications.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/30/2012 22:12 Comments || Top||


Ansar al-Islam founder gets new jail term
The founder of an Islamic terrorist group responsible for the murder of an ABC cameraman in Iraq in 2003 has been sentenced to an extra year in jail.

Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad, also known as Mullah Krekar, is an Iraqi-born ethnic Kurd who resides in Norway.

He was already facing five years in prison after being found guilty earlier this year of threatening Norwegian politicians who had called for his extradition to Iraq to face terrorism charges.

Krekar was sentenced to an extra year in jail for allegedly making more threats against members of Norway's Muslim immigrant community and former prime minister Kjell Magne Bondevik.

Krekar was the founder of Ansar al-Islam, an Al Qaeda-affiliated Islamic extremist group listed as a terrorist organisation by the UN, United States, Australia, Canada and many other nations.

In March 2003, an Ansar al-Islam suicide bomber killed freelance cameraman Paul Moran, who was on assignment for the ABC in northern Iraq.

Five Iraqis were also killed in the suicide bombing at a checkpoint. ABC correspondent Eric Campbell was wounded in the attack.
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Charges filed against 2nd rabbi for circumcisions
After appearance on popular TV show, Yitshak Ehrenberg becomes the second German rabbi to be charged for defying controversial Cologne ruling
I realize Angela Merkel
...current chancellor of Germany.
She was educated in East Germany when is was still run by commies, but in 1989 got involved with the growing democracy movement when the Berlin Wall fell. Merkel is sometimes referred to by Germans as Mom...

is busy keeping Europe from complete financial collapse, but she might want to prioritize a second track for this before all the Juices take their kids and go.
One of Germany's most prominent rabbis has been charged after publicly vowing to continue to perform circumcisions, The Times of Israel has learned.

The office of Rabbi Yitshak Ehrenberg, who has been serving the Berlin Jewish community since 1997, on Wednesday confirmed in an email that criminal charges had been filed against him. Ehrenberg has received a letter from the prosecutor's office because of comments he made on a nationwide broadcast television show, an aide confirmed. At this point it is not known who filed the complaint and what exactly the letter states.

Ehrenberg could not immediately be reached for comment.

Ehrenberg is the second Jerusalem-born Orthodox rabbi living in Germany who is being investigated amid the current controversy surrounding circumcision. In June, a Cologne court declared the ritual illegal. As a direct consequence of that ruling, a German citizen earlier this month filed a police complaint against Rabbi David Goldberg, from the Bavarian town of Hof, who said he had performed hundreds of circumcisions in recent years.

On July 11, Ehrenberg -- a well-known figure among German Jews and a member of the executive committee of the European Rabbinical Conference -- participated in a debate on "Anne Will," a popular talk show dedicated to the Cologne ruling and its implications [link in German].
A month and a half to file charges -- is that normal?
"I don't even want to go into this discussion," Ehrenberg said after a proponent of a ban said that the act was tantamount to causing the child bodily injury without his or her consent. "We're talking about religion," said Ehrenberg. "This ruling will kill Judaism in Germany."

After more than an hour of lively discussion, host Anne Will allowed Ehrenberg the last word. The rabbi first appealed to his congregants not to have their children circumcised in a hospital but in a synagogue or at home. Then he concluded: "Circumcision is a basic law for us Jews. There is no Judaism without circumcision, and therefore -- we will continue."
Meanwhile, behind the scenes according to the Jerusalem Post, the German Justice Ministry plans a new circumcision law:
After meeting with Germany’s federal justice minister on Wednesday, leaders of the Simon Wiesenthal Center told The Jerusalem Post that the outlines of a new German law appear to be an “encouraging” step toward remedying the ongoing criminalization of male circumcision in the Federal Republic.

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the center’s associate dean, and Dr. Shimon Samuels, the center’s director for international relations, held a meeting with Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger and her legal task force, which has been charged with drafting a new law to counter the circumcision ban. The minister told the center representatives that Germany is doing its best to “remove the uncertainty” surrounding the practice.

Cooper told the Post that the “legislation as drafted will talk about rights of parents instead of the state granting permission,” which he stressed are important because the government should not meddle in religious freedom and parental decision-making. He went on to characterize the Cologne judge who issued the ruling as “either ill-informed or a bigot.”

Cooper, who wrote an article in the German weekly Die Zeit explaining the importance of the Jewish ritual, told the Post that Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger plans to use the weight of “Germany’s government to influence the discussion in Europe” regarding circumcision.

He said the “Cologne ruling has caused a viral effect on the issue of ritual circumcision” in Europe. The ruling from one judge affects millions of people, added Cooper.

Some Swiss hospitals have in fact stopped performing the procedure based on the ruling, and a leading Norwegian party in Oslo is slated to introduce legislation to ban it. There have been anti-circumcision cases in Austria, and Denmark is examining whether the practice violates its health code.

Legislation affirming the right to circumcision is needed and as fast as possible, said Cooper. The Federal Ministry of Justice’s timeframe to implement the law remains unclear, but Cooper said he hoped it would have the legislation completed before the end of the year.

A solid majority of Bundestag deputies passed a July resolution in support of circumcision.

According to participants in a justice ministry meeting, the southern German state of Baden-Württemberg will not enforce the Cologne ruling, while Berlin is also considering opposing it. The Post could not immediately confirm this.

Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger told the Simon Wiesenthal Center that the attack on religious freedom in connection with Germany’s post-war Jewish community is the first such case since 1949 – citing Article 6 of German law, which guarantees religious freedom.

A German doctor filed a criminal charge in August against a Bavarian-based Rabbi for performing circumcision.

The local prosecutor’s office is still investigating the complaint against mohel David Goldberg. The mohel, or person trained in the practice of Jewish circumcision, sees the complaint as part of an anti- Semitic campaign spreading throughout the Federal Republic.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle have issued statements reaffirming religious freedom in Germany and the pressing need to resolve the circumcision crisis. Both politicians have noted that the country’s reputation is on the line and the Cologne decision is a great source of embarrassment for post-Holocaust Germany.

Cooper said that totalitarian countries like Stalin’s Soviet Union invoked circumcision as one of the reasons to persecute Jews. “Now it being done by democracies. The impact would be quite devastating for Jewish communities." He noted the ban is “an invitation to Jews to leave.”
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Posted by: trailing wife || 08/30/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11151 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "This ruling will kill Judaism in Germany."

So 'Cologne Ruling' will join the 'Nuremberg Laws' in intent?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/30/2012 8:56 Comments || Top||

#2  For some reason folks in both Germany and even here in America appear to be obsessed with two specific organs of the human body. Old age tends to re-focus those obsessions slightly. Mine are now heart and prostrate. Who says God does not have a sense of humour.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/30/2012 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Update
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/30/2012 13:56 Comments || Top||

#4 
before all the Juices take their kids and go


This will only be an issue if they insist on also taking their wealth.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 08/30/2012 23:17 Comments || Top||



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