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Sri Lanka claims smashing 'final' Tiger defences
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Iran busts 'spy pigeons' near nuclear site

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Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/20/2008 08:21 || Comments || Link || [11151 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, but...how do they know they got em all?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  "...bearing a blue-coated metal ring, with invisible strings"

Um, if they were invisible how did they see them?

And exactly WHAT were those blue coated metal rings? Is it a sign from Allan?
Posted by: AlanC || 10/20/2008 11:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Rhey are probably cooped up in some pigeon jail. Or they are now squab.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/20/2008 12:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Probably identification rings from the person who owned them. Likely racing pigeons who went astray.

Invisible strings? Hmmm. I bought some invisible string just last week but I will be damned if I can find it now.
Posted by: crosspatch || 10/20/2008 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey, Amadhi, look at those invisible strings.
Yeah, I see three of 'em. How many did you count, Nijad?
Posted by: GK || 10/20/2008 13:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Sounds like they're getting paranoia ideas from the Nation of Islam(TM)
Posted by: Elmavising Grundy6423 || 10/20/2008 14:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Good, let 'em concentrate on the pigeons, while our army of remote-controlled mosquito spies continue to infiltrate every part of Iran.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/20/2008 15:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes. But are they stool pigeons?

Posted by: Frozen Al || 10/20/2008 15:46 Comments || Top||

#9  But haven't even noticed spy flies.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/20/2008 17:14 Comments || Top||

#10  They're curious about the stool...
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/20/2008 18:46 Comments || Top||

#11  at least they didn't find the "spy lice" with the microactivated nits. Only our Mossad friends carry them, so I hope they don't search everyone and execute the Joooo spies
Posted by: Frank G || 10/20/2008 18:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Pigeons come home to roost! With the intel! HA! Stewpit, insane motherfuckers. Too much Sun, not enough water.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 10/20/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#13  Mutant Zionist Spy Pigeons!

...with frickin' lasers on their heads!
Posted by: Flomonter Black5479 || 10/20/2008 19:16 Comments || Top||

#14  GOODFEATHERS???

You just know the Boyz at FARK.com, THE ONION, + SCRAPPLEFACE are gonna have fun wid this one.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/20/2008 20:19 Comments || Top||

#15  After all, it's not against any religion to want to dispose of a pigeon.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 10/20/2008 21:22 Comments || Top||

#16  Follow the invisible string Reza. No doubt it leads all the way to Langley.
Posted by: ed || 10/20/2008 21:31 Comments || Top||

#17  Did the pigeons get nabbed by Muttley?

Posted by: Thrinegum Jones8447 || 10/20/2008 23:05 Comments || Top||

#18  #17 yeah, thats right, Muttley!

Hehe.

On anuther note, WORLD MILITARY FORUM > RUSSIA TO GIVE IRAN 1000 TONNES OF NUCLEAR FUEL [Immediate Delivery - BUSHESHR NucFac] TO STOP US ATTACK ON IRAN.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/20/2008 23:58 Comments || Top||


Iranian foreign minister warns West against talks with Taliban
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki warned the West Sunday not to push for talks with the Taliban, which had stormy relations with Tehran when it ruled Afghanistan up to 2001. "Today, the whole world knows about the strategic failure of foreign forces in Afghanistan and we advise them not to try a new failure," Mottaki said.

"We advise them to think about the consequences of the talks [with the Taliban] which are taking place in the region and in Europe and avoid being bitten in the same spot twice," he added, citing a Persian proverb.

Last month, Afghan government representatives met Taliban leaders in the Saudi holy city of Mecca for talks on ending the insurgency that has plagued Afghanistan since the Taliban were ousted from power in 2001, the Saudi-owned daily Ash-Sharq al-Awsat reported.

The Afghan government denied the report but President Hamid Karzai has long called for talks with the Taliban on condition that they accept his government's Constitution and are not involved with Al-Qaeda. Several Western countries have expressed support for negotiations with the insurgents.

"The West should not think they can confine extremism to Afghanistan, Pakistan and central Asia," Mottaki said, warning that militancy would one day also reach Europe and the West.

The hard-line Sunni Taliban had hostile relations with Shiite Iran, which was a major backer of the Afghan opposition to the Taliban government's rule.
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Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11148 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  I suppose the usual threat of "dire consequences" applies to this "warning"...
Posted by: Rivrdog || 10/20/2008 0:33 Comments || Top||


Europe paying price of US econ crisis
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says European countries are paying a high price for Washington's lamentable state of affairs. "The economic crisis gripping European markets and financial institutions is a heavy price to pay for Washington's politically-driven moves," said President Ahmadinejad on Sunday. "Over the past 60 years, Europe has born the burden of Washington's failed policies and financial recklessness," he added.

The Iranian President said that European countries should not allow their financial institutions to be devised, led and co-coordinated by the US Government.

Washington's financial meltdown has entered the worst phase since the Great Depression in 1920s, taking down global financial institutions and triggering a series of bankruptcies, forced mergers and radical government interventions such as an unprecedented USD 700-billion financial bailout plan.

European politicians and economists have criticized Washington's dithering incompetence in handling the financial turmoil. "This problem started in America with irresponsible actions and lending by some institutions. The global financial market has ceased to function," said British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on October 8. "The turmoil that we are facing has originated in the United States. It has become a global problem. The United States has a special responsibility in this situation," EU Commission spokesman Johannes Laitenberger said on October 1. "More than anything, the finance market is an American problem, The US is the source of the crisis and it is the focus of the crisis," said German Finance Minister Peer Steinbruck on September 26.
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Posted by: Fred || 10/20/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11134 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  There are other European opinions. This from Ambrose Evans-Pritchard 19 Oct:
" I suspect that Bundesbank chief Axel Weber and German finance minister Peer Steinbruck were quite simply too arrogant to listen to anybody.

Mr Steinbruck insisted that “German banks are far less vulnerable than US banks” just days before the collapse of [German lender]Hypo Real with €400bn (£311bn) of liabilities. Had he not read the IMF reports showing that German and European lenders have an even thinner Tier 1 capital base than American banks? "
Then there was this interchange between Der Spiegel & Steinbruck 29 Sept:
"SPIEGEL: And what about the fact that KfW [Kreditanstalt für Wiederaufbau, a bank owned by the German government] just happened to transfer €319 million ($463 million) to Lehman Brothers, the US investment bank that declared bankruptcy that very same day? This sort of thing doesn't exactly create confidence in state-owned banks.

Steinbrück: That was an awful mistake, of course. A grotesque error. But it was a mistake made by bank executives, not the administrative board, which includes politicians among its members.

SPIEGEL: It proves that normal risk management procedures failed completely -- directly under the nose of the finance minister.

Steinbrück: No, it proves that an inexcusably wrong decision was made. Do you think I wasn't livid about this? The entire crisis we are talking about here is incomprehensible for the normal citizen. But such an idiotic transfer -- even my 89-year-old mother is outraged about it. All 80 million German citizens understand this…

SPIEGEL: …and suddenly you had the tabloid Bild calling the KfW "Germany's stupidest bank."

Steinbrück: Okay, okay. But it's also worth noting that KfW passed all tests and checks regarding its risk management procedures that were performed by the federal audit court and auditors last year. Of course, I know that the bottom line is that what happened was completely ridiculous."
It's not just in the USA that politicians can always find someone else to blame.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/20/2008 3:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Source for Der Spiegel interview with Steinbruck
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/20/2008 3:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Which all gets back to the very inconvenient truth that Euro stasis socialist economic policies drove their capital into American speculative markets to get a return on their investments.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/20/2008 8:20 Comments || Top||

#4  And how are you doing, Mahmoud? It appears...not too good.

As markets floundered amid the credit crunch, Iran's leadership celebrated the West's economic crisis. On Oct. 11, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared, "The claim that the free market manages all things is a huge lie and benefits only thieves and criminals." Two days later, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei decreed that the West's financial crisis was a sign of "the ineffectiveness of liberal democracy-based policies."

The Iranian leadership may rue their words. Ahmadinejad has run Iran's economy into the ground. On Oct. 11, just a day after Ahmadinejad declared prices in decline, the Central Bank reported inflation above 30%. Such figures are still likely low. Both Shahab News and Aftab-e Yazd have noted the tendency of Iranian officials to pull numbers from thin air.

Non-oil sector production is stagnant. Factories may remain open but many do not pay workers. On Oct. 2, for example, tire factory workers staged a protest in front of the Ministry of Labor seeking six months' unpaid wages. In recent weeks, wildcat strikes have occurred in Tehran, Isfahan, Qazvin and Sanandaj. Purchasing power has plummeted.

To mitigate such trends, the government has imposed price controls. On June 11, the daily Resalat reported that the paramilitary Basij, a subdivision of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, would enforce low prices. Over subsequent days, the Iranian press featured photos of Basij beating merchants whose prices were too high.

The combination of high liquidity, sparked by Ahmadinejad's arbitrary decree lowering interest rates to single digits, no-interest banking and inflation has led wealthy Iranians to pour money into real estate. Housing costs have skyrocketed; Tehran real estate prices rival New York's. The average Iranian family now pays 60% of its income for rent, while the Ministry of Housing estimates 1.5 million Iranians are homeless.

To fight economic malaise, Ahmadinejad has raided Iran's foreign reserves. In the past two months alone, Iranian papers have reported more than $15 billion in withdrawals from the reserves to import refined gas and several additional billion dollars to subsidize industrial schemes. Ahmadinejad's reinstatement of subsidies has meant Iran once again must import 40% of its refined petroleum needs.

He will need to continue spending. Last winter, Iran ran out of gas. Food prices more than doubled and the Revolutionary Guards had to deploy on the streets of towns and cities to keep order. On Oct. 1, the Parliament's Energy Commission predicted another "severe gas shortage" again within months.

As oil prices plummet, Iranian pessimism grows. In 2006, Tehran planned its budget assuming an oil price of $60/barrel. High oil prices masked Ahmadinejad's incompetence. While Iran's budgetary process has grown more opaque, it appears that Ahmadinejad constructed his budget with the assumption of oil price stability. Now that oil has plummeted, the Islamic Republic is in trouble.

On Oct. 7, Asr-e Iran asked, "How much did we save from the period when oil price was up to $130 per barrel? Did we build up a foreign exchange reserve? The authorities don't provide us with a clear and official answer about the foreign currency reserve…and there is some fear that the entire reserve has gone to imports of junk." The paper's fear is justified.

While Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait now boast Sovereign Wealth Funds worth hundreds of billions of dollars, on Sept. 15 an unreleased Central Bank report leaked by an Iranian parliamentarian estimated the Islamic Republic's own future fund to be only $7 billion.

Iran's strategic challenge and nuclear ambitions will be the most immediate foreign policy challenge facing the new administration. The National Iranian American Council, Tehran's de facto lobby in Washington, urges a relaxation of sanctions. So too does the Council on Foreign Relations. Condoleezza Rice offers a defiant Tehran financial incentives.

Such strategies are wrong. Throwing an economic lifeline to a terror-sponsoring regime dedicated to the acquisition of nuclear weapons capability would be nothing short of diplomatic malpractice on a Carter-esque scale. Not only has the Islamic Republic squandered billions on nuclear weapons, destabilizing Iraq and Afghanistan, and sponsoring terrorism, but it has also pitched itself to countries like Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Sudan and Senegal as a pillar of an ideology that will defeat liberal Western democracy. Nothing would be a more powerful signal to those applauding Ahmadinejad's rhetoric than watching the Islamic Republic collapse under the weight of its own follies.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/20/2008 16:47 Comments || Top||

#5  tu3031, that's what really worries me about Iran's nuclear weapons program. They just might initiate a war just to keep from collapsing. There's nothing like a war with Isreal to unify a muslim country.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/20/2008 18:09 Comments || Top||



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  Sri Lanka claims smashing 'final' Tiger defences
Sun 2008-10-19
  Taliban stop bus- massacre 30
Sat 2008-10-18
  Kidnapped Chinese engineer escapes Pakistani Taliban
Fri 2008-10-17
  Missile Strike Targeting Baitullah Country Kills 6
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  18 Talibs titzup in attack on Lashkar Gah
Wed 2008-10-15
  Puntland Coasties free Panama ship from pirates
Tue 2008-10-14
  DPRK regrants IAEA inspectors access to its nuclear facilities
Mon 2008-10-13
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Sun 2008-10-12
  Lankan president asks LTTE to surrender
Sat 2008-10-11
  North Korea taken off US terror list
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