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Afghanistan
Peace initiatives with Pakistan remain unsuccessful, says Afghan president
[DAWN] Afghanistan's Caped President Ashraf Ghani
...former chancellor of Kabul University, now president of Afghanistan. Before returning to Afghanistan in 2002 he was a scholar of political science and anthropology. He worked at the World Bank working on international development assistance. As Finance Minister of Afghanistan between July 2002 and December 2004, he led Afghanistan's attempted economic recovery until the Karzais stole all the money. ..
on Saturday said the peace initiatives taken by Afghanistan with Pakistain are not successful as Pakistain differentiates between good and bad gunnies "in practice".

"Our regional initiatives with neighbours are beginning to yield significant cooperative dividends. However,
a lie repeated often enough remains a lie...
the exception is with Pakistain," the Afghan president said during his speech on second day of NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis....
summit.

He added that despite clear commitments to the quadrilateral grinding of the peace processor, "Pakistain's dangerous distinction between good and bad gunnies is being maintained in practice."
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


The Grand Turk
Turkey said to offer citizenship to up to 300,000 Syrian refugees
More on this story from July 4th.
[IsraelTimes] Up to 300,000 Syrian refugees living in The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the only place on the face of the earth that misses the Ottoman Empire....
could be given citizenship under a plan to keep wealthy and educated Syrians in the country, a Turkish newspaper reported on Saturday.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan
... Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi but they voted him back in so they deserve him...
said on July 2 that Syrian refugees in the country would be offered nationality "if they want it" -- the first time such an idea had been proposed at the highest level.

Nationality would be given step-by-step, with initial plans for 30,000 to 40,000 Syrians gaining citizenship, the Haberturk daily said.

In total, Turkey is targeting giving Turkish citizenship to up to 300,000 Syrians, it added.

Turkey is hoping such a move would allow skilled Syrian refugees to become citizens, the paper said. Educated refugees from other countries could choose to become nationals as well.

Family members of those chosen to become Turkish citizens could also get the right to become nationals, it added.

The usual obligation of living in Turkey for at least five years before gaining citizenship could be waived for Syrians, Haberturk said.

Syrian refugees who become Turkish nationals would then be able to vote in elections one year after being awarded nationality.

The report appeared to generate anger among many social media users, with #suriyelilerehayir ("No to Syrians") the top trending topic in Turkey on Twitter on Saturday.

Erdogan has championed an "open door" policy for Syrians fleeing the over five-year civil war in their country. More than 2.7 million Syrian refugees now live in Turkey where they have guest status, according to the Turkish government.

The proposal to grant Syrians citizenship comes after a widely-praised move by Turkey in January this year to allow Syrian refugees to be given work permits.

Turkish media this week quoted labor ministry statistics as saying 5,502 Syrians had been granted work permits since the scheme was adopted.

Activists have accused Turkey of effectively shutting its borders to any more Syrians this year but Ankara insists it will always take in those maimed and fleeing danger.

In March this year, Turkey signed a deal with the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
to stop refugees making the dangerous route from its western border to Europe via Greece which has led to a reduction in the number of boats leaving Turkey.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte

#1  .....and the non-wealthy, uneducted? Well, there's Sweden and Germany - off you go now
Posted by: Bov Flimbers || 07/10/2016 2:27 Comments || Top||

#2  could be given citizenship under a plan to keep wealthy and educated Syrians in the country,

Both of 'em
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2016 9:36 Comments || Top||

#3  And both of 'em Turkmen?
Posted by: Pappy || 07/10/2016 12:32 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Year’s first polio case in Fata reported
[DAWN] The year’s first case of polio
...Poliomyelitis is a disease caused by infection with the poliovirus. Between 1840 and the 1950s, polio was a worldwide epidemic. Since the development of polio vaccines the disease has been largely wiped out in the civilized world. However, since the vaccine is known to make Moslem pee-pees shrink and renders females sterile, bookish, and unsubmissive it is not widely used by the turban and automatic weapons set...
from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) has been reported in a two-year-old boy from North Wazoo.

According to an official of the National Institute of Health (NIH), "Fata was once called a hub of poliovirus because in 2014 as many as 179 polio cases were reported from there but the situation has changed since operation Zarb-e-Azb
..the Pak offensive against Qaeda in Pakistain and the Pak Taliban in North Wazoo. The name refers to the sword of the Prophet (PTUI!)...
was launched. Only 16 cases were reported from the area last year.

"No case of polio was reported from Fata during the first half of this year. The first case which has been confirmed should be considered to be from Afghanistan because the family remained there for two years and recently returned to Pakistain.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


PTI to mobilise civil society
[DAWN] The Pakistain Tehrik-e-Insaf
...a political party in Pakistan. PTI was founded by former Pakistani cricket captain and philanthropist Imran Khan. The party's slogan is Justice, Humanity and Self Esteem, each of which is open to widely divergent interpretations....
, in its special meeting here, has resolved that the party will begin mobilizing workers and civil society against corruption and launch a protest movement to ensure the accountability of the Sharif family.

The PTI meeting, chaired by Chairman Imran Khan
... aka Taliban Khan, who ain't the sharpest bulb on the national tree...
at chairman’s secretariat on Thursday, also decided that an important party meeting would be held on July 20 to give a final shape to the mass mobilization campaign.

Mr Khan told the meeting that the party would continue contesting and protesting against the rulers to ensure that corruption was checked and rulers held accountable.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


PPP activists set Gen Zia’s effigy on fire
[DAWN] Activists of Pakistain Peoples Party on Friday held a protest demonstration in connection with July 5, 1977 and set an effigy of late Gen Zia ul Haq
...the creepy-looking former dictator of Pakistain. Zia was an Islamic nutball who imposed his nutballery on the rest of the country with the enthusiastic assistance of the nation's religious parties, which are populated by other nutballs. He was appointed Chief of Army Staff in 1976 by Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whom he hanged when he seized power. His time in office was a period of repression, with hundreds of thousands of political rivals, minorities, and journalists executed or tortured, including senior general officers convicted in coup-d'état plots, who would normally be above the law. As part of his alliance with the religious parties, his government helped run the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan, providing safe havens, American equipiment, Saudi money, and Pak handlers to selected mujaheddin. Zia died along with several of his top generals and admirals and the then United States Ambassador to Pakistain Arnold Lewis Raphel when he was assassinated in a suspicious air crash near Bahawalpur in 1988...
on fire for toppling the elected government of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto
...9th PM of Pakistain from 1973 to 1977, and 4th President of Pakistain from 1971 to 1973. He was the founder of the Pakistain Peoples Party (PPP). His eldest daughter, Benazir Bhutto, would also serve as hereditary PM. In a coup led by General Zia-ul-Haq, Bhutto was removed from office and was executed in 1979 for authorizing the murder of a political opponent...
, the first elected prime minister of the country.

The protesters were led by party’s former provincial president Syed Zahir Ali Shah while several big shots of Beautiful Downtown Peshawar
...capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (formerly known as the North-West Frontier Province), administrative and economic hub for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. Peshawar is situated near the eastern end of the Khyber Pass, convenient to the Pak-Afghan border. Peshawar has evolved into one of Pakistan's most ethnically and linguistically diverse cities, which means lots of gunfire.
, including Senator Rubeena Khalid, Zulfiqar Afghani and Saeed Ahmed, were also present on the occasion.

Speaking on the occasion, Zahir Shah said that the military dictator had deprived the nation of an elected setup for his lust for powers.

He said that ZAB was the first elected prime minister who served the country with national zeal and enabled the poor people to raise voice for their rights.

He warned that some remnants of Zia ul Haq were still out to suppress the voice of the poor, but PPP would not let anyone do so.
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Iraq
US to supply Peshmerga troops with armored vehicles
[Rudaw] ERBIL, Kurdistan Region-- The US army in Iraq has provided two Peshmerga brigades with 54 armored Humvee vehicles as part of an aid package to help Kurdish forces against ISIS holy warriors in the country.

Kurdish Peshmerga commander Rasoul Omar told Rudaw that other brigades are expected to receive similar equipment as part of an effort to upgrade the Kurdish military ahead of the anticipated djinn-infested Mosul
... the home of a particularly ferocious and hairy djinn...
offensive.

"There will also be two long-range artillery units trained by the US army which will support Peshmerga offensives in other areas," Omar said.

Omar said the military equipment will have "substantial impact" on Peshmerga capabilities on the frontlines in Kirkuk as coalition troops are preparing for more offensives against ISIS.

The US is expected to provide Kurdish forces with a $415 million aid package to help it cope with the severe economic crisis gripping the Kurdistan Region. The central government in Baghdad has to date refused to allocate a budget for the Peshmerga Ministry as part of Iraqi defense forces.

Some 100,000 Kurdish recruits have been called or volunteered to serve with the Peshmerga troops patrolling nearly 1500 kilometers of front lines against ISIS murderous Moslems.

The ministry has been under increased pressure since early 2015 to pay its soldiers.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 01:14 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  At least the Kurds won't abandon them.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/10/2016 8:22 Comments || Top||


Death toll in Karrada bombing attack reaches 292
(IraqiNews.com)) Baghdad – Iraqi Ministry of Health announced that the toll of the suicide bombing attack at al-Karrada in central Baghdad has reached to 292.

Minister Adeela Hamoud,in a press statement, said, “The ministry instructed the forensic department to work as usual on Eid al-Fitr vacations and called the citizens to take up DNA tests in order to identify their relatives.”

The statement added, “The minister is staying with the victims’ families at the forensic department to follow up and accelerate the process of DNA sampling and matching.”

“Blood banks have received over 4270 donors, while the number of wounded reached to 200, including 23 persons still at ministry’s hospitals,” the statement added.

Hammoud continued, “The overall toll of al-Karrada bombing reached to 292, including 177 unidentified persons.”
Posted by: badanov || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Abadi Calls on Niniveh Locals to Be Ready to Liberate Their Cities from ISIL
[ENGLISH.ALMANAR.LB] Iraqi Prime Minister Haidar Al-Abadi called on Niniveh locals to prepare themselves for liberating their cities from ISIS terrorists, warning the corrupted officials who trade the Iraqis' blood.

Abadi considered that ISIS is now in a weakened position and that soon it will be widely defeated.

"The terrorist ISIS gangsters are facing clear defeat. After the victory of our heroic forces in Fallujah,
... the City of Mosques, which might have somthing to do with why it's not called Center of Prosperity or a really nice place to raise your kids...
ISIS could not even escape from the desert," he said in a meeting with Interior Ministry officials on Friday.

"ISIS major defeat will happen soon," he declared, "We will raise the Iraqi flag in Nineveh as we did in Fallujah."

Abadi believes the deadly recent attack in Karrada aimed at avenging our Iraqi forces’ victories.

"The terrorist attack in Karrada aimed at avenging our great victory in Fallujah that caught the world’s attention."

"They depend on cowardly kabooms and targeting civilians. By doing this, they want to prove that they are still alive and have influence in order to get financial support and attract other forces of Evil to join them."

He also issued a warning to those officials who are involved in corrupt deals.

"There are people who are trading the blood of the Iraqi people for political gain at a time when we should be united against terrorism that targets all of us."
Posted by: Fred || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iraq

#1  Ninevah Natterings?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2016 10:04 Comments || Top||

#2  There can only be one Frank, BadMan holds the franchise.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2016 14:03 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Shin Bet Report for June: Fewer terror attacks, more fatalities
[IsraelTimes] 103 violent acts by Paleostinians documented in June, including shooting in Tel Aviv and murder of 13-year-old girl near Hebron

Terrorist attacks on Israelis last month remained relatively low in volume but resulted in the highest number of fatalities since January.

Five people died as victims of such terrorist attacks in June, the Israel Security Agency, or Shin Bet, wrote in its monthly report, published earlier this week. In total, 103 such attacks were documented, compared to 101 in May -- the lowest figure on record since March 2015.

The fatalities were the result of two attacks ‐ a shooting in Tel Aviv’s Sarona compound, in which four Israelis were killed, and the murder of a 13-year-old girl, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, in her home near Hebron.

The attacks last month resulted in 21 injuries to victims, including one serious injury.

The report for June also listed an attack attributed to Jewish terrorists, in which two cars were set on fire near the predominantly-Arab city of Nazareth in the Galilee and three others were spray-painted with hate speech, including: "We will murder you."

Attacks along Israel’s fence with Gazoo saw a sharp decline from 16 in May to a single attack last month. Of 103 the attacks documented in June, 86 involved Molotov cocktails, 10 featured an explosive charge and two were shooting attacks.

In Israel and the West Bank, attacks began increasing in August, when 171 of them were documented, and rose sharply in September and October, with 223 and 620 attacks recorded in those months respectively. But the overall number of attacks decreased to 326 in November, 246 in December, 169 in January, 155 in February and 123 in March.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Syrian Kurds declare Qamishli as capital for the new federal system
[ARA News] QAMISHLI ‐ The Syrian Kurds and their allies declared the northeastern city of Qamishlo [Qamishli] as the new capital of the federal system in Northern Syria and Rojava, a Kurdish leaders and member of the Democratic Society Movement (TEV-DEM) told ARA News.

While the war between the Syrian government and opposition factions continue, Syrian Kurds are finalizing their plans to establish a new federal system for northern Syria while at the same time fighting the radical group of Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems....
(ISIS) in Manbij border pocket.
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Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


NATO AWACS surveillance jets to fly over Turkey against ISIL
NATO leaders agreed 9 July on a set of decisions to project stability beyond the Alliance’s borders, including starting a new training and capacity building effort in Iraq and the use of AWACS surveillance aircraft on the Turkish sky to support the strikes by the coalition against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

“To the south we see failed and failing states. And millions left homeless and hopeless by terrorist groups like ISIL,” NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg told a news conference on day two of the NATO Summit.

“This instability has a direct impact on our societies. The scale of the challenge demands that we take action.”
Posted by: Steve White || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In particular we will be keeping a friendly eye on Sukhois and Migs.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2016 9:47 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
ISIS oil revenues reduced under US-led airstrikes
[ARA News] QAMISHLI – The US-led coalition has carried out 303 air strikes against the Islamic State’s (ISIS) oil and gas facilities as part of Operation Tidal Wave II since 2014, and has cut down ISIS revenues to $15 million per month.

“Operation Tidal Wave II continues to reduce Daesh’s access to revenues from illicit oil and natural gas operations,” said the US-led coalition spokesman Colonel Christopher Garver.

“In our estimate, Daesh is [used to be] earning $300 million a month from illicit oil activities. That should have been approximately $30 million a month and we estimate that the reduction from Tidal Wave II operations cuts their revenues by a half to approximately $15 million a month,” he said.

The US-led coalition has carried out more than 303 airstrikes since September 2014, targeting ISIS oil and gas facilities.

Speaking to ARA News, Aymenn Jawad Al Tamimi, a research fellow at the Middle East Forum–a US think tank–said the airstrikes have a remarkable effect in the war on ISIS “because the group now controls fewer oil fields, and facilities have been damages and supply routes disrupted.”

“But there’s no alternative in the end to retaking [oil-rich] Deir ez-Zor
...Syria's sixth largest city and the country's oil capitol.
The reduction by half is possible, but in the end the bulk of the loss will come from recapture of Deir ez-Zor oil fields,” he said.

However, Al Tamimi said ISIS oil revenues never reached $300 million dollar per month. “At maximum revenues topped $40-50 million a month,” he said.

Despite the financial losses, the Islamic State is still trying to fight back, also against the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in Manbij that now control more than 50 per cent of the city on border with Turkey.

“Desperate counter-attacks near Manbij resulted in major ISIL [ISIS] losses. Coalition-partnered SDF now establishing firm foothold in the city,” US anti-ISIS envoy Brett McGurk said on Twitter on Thursday.

“We’ve seen Daesh [ISIS] fighters leaving these previously defended towns to attempt to reinforce Manbij. As the pressure increases against Daesh in Manbij, they are demonstrating more desperation to keep Daesh strategic crossroads open for access outside Syria,” Colonel Garver said.

Due to the setbacks on the ground, as a result of successes by the Iraqi army, and Kurdish forces in both Syria and Iraq, ISIS has carried out attacks on civilians in the Middle East and in the West to show their supporters that they still have the ability to strike against their enemies.

“They are the force that’s conducting attacks like we saw in Paris, like we saw in Brussels. They’re inspiring attacks like we saw in San Bernardino and we saw in Orlando. And this is a force that needs to be dealt with. These are people that they need to not only be defeated on the battlefield, but they’re ideology needs to be broken and defeated as well,” Colonel Garver added.

“We still have to break the caliphate. We still have to show that they are not worth following from the worst of humanity around the globe, but they would want to do that in our capitals anyway. They would want to do that in Western countries,” he concluded.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 00:00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


15 missing Indian Muslims feared to have joined ISIS
[ARA News] DAMASCUS ‐ At least 15 Moslems in the southern Indian state of Kerala are missing and may have joined the ranks of the Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems....
(ISIS), local media reported on Saturday.

Relatives of the missing individuals said they had received messages on WhatsApp suggesting that the missing people had reached the place of "divine rule...Islamic State," according to the Indian Express.

The 15 missing are all young, and include five married couples, one with a two-year-old child.

According to local sources, the missing people knew each other, and some of them had previously worked in the Gulf states.

"They had never been associated with any political or religious organization. But, over the last two years, they had turned orthodox, with the men sporting long beards," an unnamed source told the Indian Express.

In the meantime, Kerala’s state police chief urged caution over the reports and said that "we can’t come to any conclusions" on their whereabouts.

"[Their] families have not approached local police with a formal complaint,’’ said Loknath Behera, Kerala’s director general of police.

According to earlier reports, a total of 23 Indians had left to join ISIS in either Syria or Iraq, 17 of them from southern states.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


ISIS's Twitter traffic plunges
[Ynet] The B.O. regime has reported that ISIS's traffic on the popular site has plummeted 45% in the past 2 years; the State Department is distributing anti-ISIS imagery.

ISIS's Twitter traffic has plunged 45 percent in the past two years, the B.O. regime says, as the US and its allies have countered messages of jihadi glorification with a flood of online images and statements about suffering and enslavement at the hands of the bully boy organization.

Among the images: A teddy bear with Arabic writing and messages saying IS "slaughters childhood," ''kills innocence," ''lashes purity" or "humiliates children." A male hand covering a female's mouth, saying ISIS "deprives woman her voice." A woman in a black niqab (veil), bloody tears coming from a bruised eye, and the caption: "Women under ISIS. Enslaved. Battered. Beaten. Humiliated. Flogged."
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Posted by: trailing wife || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  #DontUseTwitter
Posted by: Bobby || 07/10/2016 11:20 Comments || Top||

#2  I C whut U did thar
Posted by: Pappy || 07/10/2016 12:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Bobby just won a good chunk of the Texas inter webs.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2016 14:04 Comments || Top||


Government
CBO: Replacing soldiers with civilians could save $billions
A federal agency has issued a report suggesting the U.S. military could save as much as $5.7 billion every year by replacing some forces personnel with government civilians.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) used a model which either cut or replaced about 80,000 active-duty positions with civilians. The report, published Tuesday, claims the move would not be new to the Department of Defense (DoD) and could help the military focus on core roles.

The CBO outlined three scenarios: a one-for-one civilian replacement for certain service members, a four-for-five civilian to military replacement, and a two-to-three civilian to military replacement. These, according to the report, could eventually save between $3.1 billion to $5.7 billion annually.

The CBO report also noted that the federal government would realize savings outside the DoD by replacing military personnel serving in departments such as Veterans Affairs, Treasury, and Education.

Daniel Wasserbly of defense and security intelligence group IHS Jane's believes a move to cut military strength is unlikely.

"CBO is brainstorming ideas to save money and this is an interesting one, but it's unlikely to be implemented because it would mean a controversial reduction in military end-strength.

"The services, particularly the U.S. Army, are in the process of reducing their ranks after growing significantly to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. The service chiefs, and some in Congress, fear cuts may already be too deep,"

Wasserbly said the U.S. army has set out plans to drop 490,000 soldiers proposed in the 2015 budget down to 450,000 by the end of 2018. And within the CBO report, downsides to reducing the number of active-duty military are highlighted.

"Achieving the costs savings depends on cutting military end strength. An action that would reduce the Department of Defense's ability to surge troops in a protracted conflict."
Posted by: Pappy || 07/10/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Next: replacing people with robots & drones.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 07/10/2016 2:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Really? Or are we replacing military with Civil Service employees, a.k.a. union members, with expanded benefits that will be paid in future by taxpayers and union kickbacks to politicians in the present?
Short reply: government money saving plan is an oxymoron.
Posted by: magpie || 07/10/2016 8:13 Comments || Top||

#3  beat me to it magpie.

the key word is UNION. Graft ready jobs from Zero.
Posted by: AlanC || 07/10/2016 8:15 Comments || Top||

#4  From the beginning, the Founders understood that the military experience was different from civil society, that's why the granted Congress the authority and power to make all laws governing land and naval forces. It's not the same.

You can't give two weeks notice and be 'out of here'. You are subject to an entire set of separate laws and disciplines. No civilian government employee is subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice stateside, no Article 15 or Courts Martial.

Not to mention, the uniform personnel are on duty 24 hours a day. They don't have overtime. If something needs to be done, it's not a question of calling the personnel office for a 'mother may I".
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/10/2016 9:01 Comments || Top||

#5  Downsizing the military while establishing federal police. I wonder if there's a common thread?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/10/2016 9:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Unionized Military.

"Sorry General, I can't transmit these orders, my shift just ended!"

What could possibly go wrong?

Do they really think the enemy will follow their union rules?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/10/2016 9:43 Comments || Top||

#7  CF, we have met the enemy and he is us.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 07/10/2016 10:18 Comments || Top||

#8  Think an Army of TSA and DMV employees
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2016 10:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Think an Army of TSA and DMV employees

They certainly have the weaponry and ammo.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 07/10/2016 13:55 Comments || Top||

#10  More like an army of Gestopo made up of every activist, community organizer, agitator, an pissant dictator you can imagine. All owing their loyalty to their cause or tin plated patron who see the country as a hinderance deserving of no loyalty. It will be, in truth, everything the left accuses it of being now.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/10/2016 14:01 Comments || Top||

#11  RWR: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Second on the list: "I'm from the government and I'm here to save you money."

Posted by: Matt || 07/10/2016 14:39 Comments || Top||

#12  This is absolutely ridiculous - this is from the same group of rationalizers that convinced big Army the contractors were the way to fight the last war...CIA had contractors that jacked up the interrogations...logisticians had contractors that paid the enemy for the privilege of passing through their AO - paying them for the privilege to fight. Civilians that refused to deploy.

We need more green and blue suiters, not less, and get rid of the white civilian contractor army and replace it with real soldiers, marines, and airmen. This is insanity.
Posted by: Tennessee || 07/10/2016 17:20 Comments || Top||

#13  ...this is from the same group of rationalizers that convinced big Army the contractors were the way to fight the last war.

The Army was never so 'convinced.' It the Army could have ridded itself of contractors, it would have done so instantly, possibly sooner. Manpower and expertise in specific technical areas, information systems and the like, were the justifications for contractors.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/10/2016 17:28 Comments || Top||

#14  Besoeker - You are correct the original rationalization for contractors was the need for expertise...in the short term. But, as the war drug on...we should have expanded the green Army...but, it was easy politically to hide the true numbers on the ground in Iraq/AFG by stating that only 100K green was on the ground, never mind that 100K white army that is supporting it, as well as the fact that General or Colonel So and So needs an important high paying job when they retire next spring...

The impact of contractors making 100K plus serving alongside Sgts/Cpls making 35-40K doing the same job down range was also an un-needed distraction to morale and a drain on qualified green-suiters as the experienced green suiters cashed in early to take high paying contractor jobs.
Posted by: Tennessee || 07/10/2016 17:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Your second para rather directly speaks to monetary reward as motivation. I began as an 18 year old 'slick sleeved' private making $91. per month mamy years ago. Where that training and experience eventually took me should be my own business, not the envy of those seeking benefits or rewards.

Posted by: Besoeker || 07/10/2016 17:51 Comments || Top||

#16  Should be.
I know a soldier, who is not the envious type, mention that on return from his first Iraq. When what you said was pointed out, and that a number of ex-military take their learned skill set into the private sector and get paid more for the same job they did in the military, and that it just so happens you had the same skill set, he understood and conceded the point.

Losing an experienced employee is frustrating, especially if I know I cannot counter the offer. It was pointed out to soldier that this was his first rodeo where the contractor likely has a lot of experience and shown skill; that a rookie QB does not get paid the same as Tom Brady.

On the other had, with soldier's MOS, he has access and use of equipment totally unavailable to contractor.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 07/10/2016 18:50 Comments || Top||

#17  Besoeker I appreciate your service as a contractor and I am not throwing rocks at you, but war should never become a "business" and money should never be the prime motivation.

Prime example - Afghanistan became a debacle once contractors and third party foreign nationals became involved. We lost billions...paid directly to the threat who sat aside our supply lines and contracts. We inadvertently fund (present tense) the Taliban. Thousands and thousands of containers of US and coalition materiel captured by the enemy because we contracted out our supply chain. Result - we contracted our way to a stalemate.

Posted by: Tennessee || 07/10/2016 21:41 Comments || Top||

#18  CBO needs to talk to the guy in the Head and Headquarters company 173 Light Infantry Brigade about their night in the foxholes during Tet of 68.

I don't think a DAC would be issued a rifle and a helmet along with their typewriter and whiteout.

Of course this could be a back door effort to insert women into the TOA.
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 07/10/2016 22:45 Comments || Top||



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