Somalis living in Britain are channeling cash to al Qaeda-linked Islamist groups committing human rights atrocities in their war-torn homeland, a community leader has claimed.
Sums thought to be totalling tens of thousands of pounds a week are being sent to the Shabaab militia, a fundamentalist Islamic group blamed for sentencing a 13-year-old girl to be stoned to death in the southern city of Kismayo.
The execution, details of which were revealed last week by Amnesty International, was imposed on the girl, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, after she complained to a Shabaab-run Sharia court that she had been gang-raped.
Instead of sentencing her alleged attackers, the court found her guilty of adultery and sent her a local stadium, where she was buried up to her neck in sand and then stoned in front of a 1,000 strong crowd.
The brutal punishment was part of the Taliban-style Islamic regime imposed on the city by the Shabaab, who are designed as a terrorist group by the United States and whose leadership was the target of American missile strikes earlier this year,
A London-based Somali community leader has claimed that much of their funding is coming from the Somali diaspora in Britain, many of whom support the groups' fierce guerrilla war against Somalia's long-time enemy Ethiopia, which invaded in January 2007.
"People are sending money over to back the Shabaab because they want to see the Ethiopians kicked out, even if they don't have much sympathy with the Islamist agenda," said Mohamed Abdullahi, director of the UK Somali Community Initiative.
"But over here in Britain, they are not seeing the violence that they are fuelling, or realising that al-Shabaab has some very hardline policies. Many people here were shocked to hear about the stoning incident, and said that it was not Islamic. In that case, they should think twice about sending money."
Ethiopia sent troops into Somalia as part of a US and British-backed bid to topple the Shabaab's more moderate allies, the Islamic Courts Union, and replace them with internationally-backed transitional federal government. Although the courts union had managed to impose order on the lawless nation, which has been without a functioning government since 1994, it was suspected by Washington of harbouring foreign al-Qaeda fighters. Since the invasion, however, the country has reverted into all-out anarchy and clan warfare, with the increasingly brutal anti-Ethiopian insurgency costing thousand of lives and sparking a refugee crisis that has spilled into neighbouring Kenya.
"Many Somalis are funding the Shabaab now because they remember the peace that the Islamic Courts Union brought when they were in power," added Mr Abdullahi. "Even if it meant a hardline Islam, they were prepared to put up with it because it was better than the complete chaos before,"
Mr Abdullahi said that most of the money being channeled to the Shabaab came via the traditional hawala money transfer system, an informal wire service arrangement which is hard for the authorities to monitor. Post-September 11, hawala agents in Britain agreed to abide by money laundering rules, but in practice there is little real restriction on which inviduals they send money to in Somalia.
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The Algerian lawyer Mr. Benyamina said a huge number of real estate properties are still legally owned by French colons who left them after the Independence of Algeria in 1962, adding that several cases concerning these disputes have been submitted to Algerian courts.
In this regard, Mr. Benyamina has pointed out that he has been contacted by French colons to be in charge of their cases, with the aim of recovering their properties, but refused, because of the political character of such cases. He further said that cases alike require an accurate opinion from Algerian Judges and Jurists.
A communiqué released by the Ministry of Justice, posted on internet, said the institutions defending the interests of the former French colons in Algeria, submitted more than 600 records, and lodged several complaints to the United Nations Committee of Human Rights (UNCHR), with the aim of obliging Algeria either giving them back their properties they left after the independence of Algeria, or compensate them.
In this context, the Ministry of Justice has received the final sentence issued by the UNCHR, last January, confirming the refusal of such claims. The UNCHR said these properties have been nationalized by the Algerian Government before the access of Algeria to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
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Properties in Viet Nam(formerly Republic of) too? Truman, demtard POS. Next we'll see the descendants of stalin want whatever back.
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Ok, I'll leave JFM comment on this. My view on the subject from a somewhat young guy who was taught in school and by the whole chattering class that the french colonization of algeria was a crime against humanity, and who made his mind slowly about that...
French or french citizens (lotsa naturalized spaniards & italaians) BUILT algeria. algeria DIDN'T exist as a country, before it was invaded (mostly) BECAUSE of the constant piracy from algiers, up to and including slavves-snatching raids up to the coast of the UK... Not only was the country CREATED by France, but all of its ressources and even its population growth were created ex-nihilo by France... agriculture was so primitive (remember, back in the antiquity, before the arab invasion, north africa was an advanced and rich area), infrastructures were so limited, hygiena was so bad, that the french humanists actually were very concerned that the local population was going to be extinct (incredible infant mortality, way higher than in european middle-ages),...
After the counter-insurgency war was won, de gaulle sold the french algerians down the river, and when the FLN immediatly went against the "peace" accord and started giving them the choice between being chased out with only their clothes on, or being slaughtered, the french army was ordered to SHOOT unarmed crowds of pieds noirs (french algerians), BOMB their neighbourhoods, and DISARM the harkis (muslim algerians fighting for France, who outnumbered the "independentists" something like 10:1). So, pieds noirs had to flee a country where they had lived for 130 years, and were badly welcomed in France, with an indifferent/hostile population (commies again), zero aid from the State, while the harkis were slaughtered in unfashionably cruel ways (just like the war led by the FLN was marred by acts of obscene cruelty you wouldn't think are possible if you saw them in one of those "saw" flicks, roasting babies like chicken, or slitting the throats of entire villages, mutilating prisoners by poking their eyes out or removing the flesh from their forearms to the bones... the FLN killed way more muslim than french, by the way, as it used mass terror to gain control of the population)... estimates range from 30 000 to 100 000 killed in just a few weeks.
Harkis fleeing to France were welcomed by the gaullist power, which put them in ACTUAL concentration camps, where they remained until the early 80's.
De gaulle had his Grand Plan about France become a thrid way between the USa and the USSR, much to the delight of the USSR, overjoyed by such an useful idiot to divide the western camp. The sahara oil and natural gas were GIVEN to algeria (which had never had any kind of historical claim on the region), and up to this day, France buys algeria natural gas ABOVE market price, as a kind of subsidiy.
Of course, algeria went straight into moscow camp, and even now, the attitude of algiers regarding France was and is very hostile, France is a scapegoat for the regime's totalitarian an inept nature, and everything is done to teach hatred for the former colonizing power to the algerian population, with great success it seems. As a note, according to a speech by an algerian minister, there are 4 MILLIONS algerians living in France in 2008, and believe me, algiers didn't renounce to its networks, overt or not, and "french" algerians do not feel french at all, but algerian (just recently, there was a scandal by the usual anti-racist suspect, because a french para NCO wiped his boot with an algerian flag... which had been found in possession of a "french" paratrooper... the "french" paras who saw him do that denounced him to the mimitary brass, who quickly apologized and went into full-multiculti mode with the colonel apologizing via a press communique and all)...
what can I say more? French cemetaries in algeria not only are not cared for like the independence treaty specified, but are even degraded and desacrated; during the flight of french algerians, many were kidnapped by the FLN, never to be seen again, thousands upon thousands, and it is now known for a fact that many men were sent to forced labor in mines, and that women and girls were sent to brothels - the gaullist power was of course fully aware of that, and never raised a complaint (algerian military guys boasted of the sex-slaves to their french counterparts during cooperation).
Also, algeria is NOT on the West's side in the WOT. It is not a secular dictatorship, it has been, increasingly, and even now, pushing the islamization and arabization of the country, and the dirty war of the 90's was marked by a very high level of "murkiness", there are lotsa indication to believe part at least of the islamists were infiltrated and manipulated by the military just as the french did during the independence war, and a large part of the late 90's violence was actually intercecine warfare between the islamists, with whole villages controlled by other factions being wiped out to the pets. Also, just to give an example, it is now known that the tiberine monks were kidnapped on behalf of the military (the only uncertain issue is if they were beheaded on purpose, or were killed accidentally, and beheaded post mortem).
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Yup, it was not a colony, but a french department; french civil rights were proposed to the native jews (non-citizens under the muslim turkish rule), who accepted it, and to the muslim, who refused it (I'm a bit fuzzy on that, but that's the basics). algeria was indeed considered part of the french mainland. But, again, wait for JFM for more precise infos, I'm just a law school drop-out with too much time on his hands, he's the history guy.
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Particularly shameful was the treatment of harkis (that a Gaullisty minister had teh front to call "collabos". Not only they were denied passage to France (despite that FLN had given aple proofs of its cruelty and sadim), since they were more than enough to defeat the FLN it was teh French Army who disarmed them. Then they were abandonned to meet horrible deaths: those who were "only" impaled were fortunate. Those harkis, who thanks to help from French officders disobeying orders came into France wee parked into concentration camps. In teh first winter they lived under tents. A woamn giving birth was brought to hospital and in the same day, she and the baby were brought back to the tent camp. Temperature -10 C.
De Gaulle could not forgive the North Africans (both Pied Noirs and harkis) from inferior races to have done the dying at Cassino and at the Bulge (it was a North African unit who stopped the German push towards Strasbourg) and taken the glory from the real French. Just as he could not forgive British and Americans.
Anonymous 5089 report about De Gaulle and Algeria is very good.
I will add however that during WWII De Gaulle ever showed a very conciliatory attitude towards teh Communists. Despite Russia's backstabbing of Poland in 1939 (given how late the campain was started it was not impossible that without it Poalns could have resisted until the autumn rains who, in a country with so few roads as Poland wpould have paralysed the German Army and led to a protracted and bloody campaign with teh German no longer able to attack France in 1940)
it is atonishing or more excatly "atonishing" that he sent an air unit (escadrille Normandie-Niemen) to fight alongside the Russians. Also he made great efforts to introduce the Communists in the coordinating instances of the Resistance (Jean Moulin's mission) despite the opposition of most resistants who remembered their treason in 1940. In 1944 he gave them positions who allowed them to mold French intellectual life for decades (book publishers, juries of litterary prizes). I suspect something fishy was agreed with Stalin when De Gaulle visited Soviet Union during the war: "Anglo-Saxons will not let France fall into communists hands but if they help me to get in power I will make France a neutral country and provide them with means of influence
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The preceeding post was mine. And I reiterate: Anon509's post is outstanding.
.Muslim gangs inside Whitemoor Jail have created no-go areas for British jail officers and are policing the areas themselves. The Daily Star quoted guards as claiming that the Islamic mobs are "a law unto themselves," adding that the prison staff have passed a vote of no confidence in their governor.
MP Malcolm Moss, 65, said Whitemoor Prison, Cambridgeshire, was descending into turmoil. He added that staff blamed Governor Steve Rodford for pandering to political correctness and making the Muslims untouchable.
The Conservative MP warned that the unrest had created a "tense" atmosphere not seen since the 1990s when the IRA maintained an inner sanctum inside the maximum-security prison. "Serious problems will arise if there is dissatisfaction among staff at top security prisons, as is currently the case at Whitemoor. There are no-go sections policed by Muslim inmates, not staff. In the 1990s officers couldn't do their jobs properly and prisoners did what they like. We may be operating a similar situation," he said.
A third of the 458 inmates at Whitemoor are Muslims. Moss claimed that they were segregated from other prisoners.
In May an internal review of the jail by the Prison Service's Directorate of High Security warned staffs believe that a "serious incident is imminent" as several wings had become dominated by Muslim prisoners.
Moss is waiting for Government answers to questions he has posed about the vote of no confidence and segregation of Muslim inmates at Whitemoor.
Earlier, Anne Owers, the chief inspector of prisons, has urged the prison service to do more to provide staff throughout the jail system but particularly in the top security prisons with help to deal with increasing Muslim numbers.
The number of Muslim prisoners in jails doubled in the ten years to 2006 to reach 8,243 - 11 per cent of the total prison population.
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So they've created their own special little hell. Hope they enjoy it. Of course, if the Brits had any backbone left they could go in there with shotguns and regain control.
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The prison could make that are a no water zone then
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Of course there are ways to deal with this. But they require the will to do so. If Britain retained the will to defend herself these prisoners wouldn't have gotten that far in the first place.
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there are ways to deal with this. But they require the will to do so.
It's ALL about the WILL (Gordon Liddy may be a jerk, but he had that part right.) If it was MY prison, if the officers can't go there, then neither can the food or water. If you don't have at least that much will, then you lose. (Of course, if it was REALLY my prison, if the officers can't go there, then their bullets can ---)
The official threat level is classed as being "Severe" - this is one down from the highest level, "Critical", which means an attack is imminent. Over the last few months, we in Britain have become a little obsessed with the economy, falling house prices and the credit crunch, but it should not be forgotten that a significant number of UK citizens have been planning to carry out attacks with the aim of causing mass casualties.
The report leaked to The Sunday Telegraph identifies three areas - London, Birmingham and Luton - which MI5 and Special Branch believe are enclaves or hot beds of terrorist activity, where "some thousands" of extremists committed to supporting Jihadi activities. It is this fact alone which will worry the security services the most. Each of these areas has sizeable Muslim populations and while the vast majority are peace loving and regard militant Islam as an abomination, some are also in denial about the size of the threat from members of their communities. But it should not be forgotten that Islamist terrorists are members of a covert conspiracy, where even members of there own families have little idea that their sons or daughters have become radicalised.
The Government has attempted to combat the radicalisation of disaffected members of the Muslim community by urging religious leaders to ban Islamist preachers from getting a foothold in mosques. While this policy has met with some success, this report would suggest that the numbers of young Muslims signing up to al-Qaeda philosophy is growing. Preventing radicalisation is almost an impossible task especially when Britain and a large number of its allies are locked into conflict in Muslim countries.
The report also tells us that Islamist groups are still managing to send British nationals, some of whom will be Muslim converts, to fight against British forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. In camps dotted along the Pakistan/Afghan border they are being taught how to build bombs and form covert cells. Some will be sent to fight on the frontline in Iraq and Afghanistan while others, according to the report, will be ordered to return to the UK to establish new terrors networks.
MI5 has doubled in size since 9/11 and now has nine regional offices across the country. But its staff can only achieve so much. Unlike the BBC television series "Spooks", not every covert MI5 mission will end in success. The Security Services' 3,500 spies have been working flat out since the 2005 London bombings and it is likely that the Security Service may need to expand again in the next few years to keep pace with the growing threat. This will no doubt raise certain moral questions for a liberal democracy.
MI5 is well aware that it cannot uncover every plot or stop every attack - eventually one will get through. All we can hope for is that the attack will be unsophisticated, like that attempted by Nicky Reilly, who attempted to blow up a restaurant in Exeter using a crude home made device. But the horrible reality is that eventually a highly sophisticated plot will one day slip under the radar and the consequences for us in the UK will be catastrophic.
Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, the former director general of MI5, often said that in all likelihood al-Qaeda will detonate a "dirty bomb" in a western capital in the near future. If that was to happen in London today the entire western banking system - which is already fragile - would collapse. When the British Army was fighting a counter-insurgency war in Ulster, the mantra of the IRA was "We only have to be lucky once - the British have to be lucky all the time". The same is still true today in the war against Islamist extremists.
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Secret enclaves of al-Qaeda extremists based in London, Birmingham and Luton are planning mass-casualty attacks in Britain, according to a leaked Government intelligence report.
The document, which was drawn up by the intelligence branch of the Ministry of Defence, MI5 and Special Branch, states that "some thousands" of extremists are active in the UK. They are predominantly UK-born and aged between 18 and 30, and many are believed to have been trained in overseas terrorist camps.
Under the heading "International Terrorism", the report, which is marked "restricted" states: "For the foreseeable future the UK will continue to be a high-priority target for international terrorists aligned with al-Qaeda. It will face a threat from British nationals, including Muslim converts, and UK-based foreign terrorists, as well as terrorists planning attacks from abroad."
The report states that the threat from the Islamist extremist community in the UK is "diverse and widely distributed" but adds that the numbers of terrorist in Britain is "difficult to judge".
The document does state, however, that the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre, which is based in MI5's headquarters at Thames House in London, estimates that there are "some thousands of extremists in the UK committed to supporting Jihadi activities, either in the UK or abroad".
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Since 2001, over 1,200 terrorist suspect have been arrested, over 140 have been charged and more than 45 have been convicted of terrorism offences, according to Home Office figures. That's 3.75% success
It is also estimated that there are some 200 terrorist networks functioning in Britain today who are involved in at least 30 plots.
But this latest security assessment appears to suggest that the number of individuals who now pose a threat to the UK is even higher.
The report continues: "The majority of extremists are British nationals of south Asian, mainly Pakistani origin but there are also extremists from north and east Africa, Iraq and the Middle East, and a number of converts. The overwhelming majority of extremists are male, typically in the 18-30 age range.
"The main extremist concentrations are in London, Birmingham, with significant extremist networks in the South East, notably Luton. Extremist networks are principally engaged in spreading their extremist message, training, fund raising and procuring non-lethal military equipment to support the Jihads in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq, and sending recruits to the conflicts.
"UK-based extremists, either under the direction of al-Qaeda, or inspired by al-Qaeda's ideology of global Jihad, have also engaged in attack planning in the UK."
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At least they are not totally in the PC Tank and can clearly identify the group posing the greatest threat while TSA (Thousands Standing Around) shakes down granny in the wheel chair.
(APP): President Asif Ali Zardari Saturday reiterated the resolve not to spare any effort to root out militancy and terrorism in the country. Talking to a seven-member delegation of MPAs from Swat at the President House, he said police and para military forces were being strengthened in Swat and other areas to enhance their capacity to fight the militants.
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(APP): Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Sherry Rehman has condemned the US missile attack in North Waziristan that killed 10 people on Friday. "The series of unilateral actions against targets on Pakistan's soil is a self‑defeating strategy. The US Administration's reluctance to consider the repercussions of such operations is damaging the whole purpose of global efforts to combat terrorism," said the Federal Information Minister commenting on the reports of the fresh US attacks on the FATA region, according to a press release issued here.
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Shut up, Sherry
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OPEC nations could further reduce oil output if moves last month to slash production do not bolster plummeting oil prices, OPEC president Chakib Khelil said Saturday.
Khelil, who is also Algeria's energy minister, said an OPEC report would show by the end of the month whether all cartel members have enforced the daily 1.5 million barrel reduction decided in October.
He said he hoped the production cut would raise and stabilize prices at a level manageable for both oil-exporting countries and consumer nations. Reasonable prices should range "between $70 and $90 per barrel," said Khelil, who currently holds the rotating presidency of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. ...
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an OPEC report would show by the end of the month whether all cartel members have enforced the daily 1.5 million barrel reduction decided in October.
Surely no report is needed, who in the hell would lie about their oil sales? I mean srsly.
The three-member presidency council of Iraq approves a controversial resolution that will set aside six local council seats for minorities. "In order to fix the rights of the minority seats in the future, the presidency council decided to approve the decision voted on before by the parliament," said Naseer al-Ani, chief of staff for the council.
The Iraqi constitution has foreseen a three-member Presidency Council, consisting of the President of the Republic and the two of his vice presidents.
The decision comes after the county's Christians complained that controversial legislation passed in September by the Iraqi parliament, excludes guarantees of representation for minority groups at the local council level.
As a result of the opposition, that had also caused unrest and heavy exodus in cities like Mosul, earlier this month, parliament voted on Monday in favor of a quota to give three seats to Iraq's Christians and three to other religious minorities, the Yazidis, Sabeans and the Shabaks.
The three-member presidency council had to approve the measure for it to come into effect.
The new quota is still controversial among Christian politicians who had hoped to receive at least six local council seats for their community.
Iraq with a population of an estimated 29m has around 400,000 Christians, which is half the number of Christians living in Iraq before the US invasion of the country in 2003.
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Palestinian reconciliation talks due to be held in Cairo were called off on Saturday after Hamas announced a boycott in protest at the detention of hundreds of its members by president Mahmud Abbas's security forces.
"They've been cancelled," Egyptian foreign ministry spokesman Hossam Zaki told AFP. Another Egyptian official, who asked not to be named, said the talks "have been delayed to an undetermined date... at the request of Hamas."
Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum told AFP that "Hamas decided not to attend the dialogue talks in Egypt. We have informed the Egyptian authorities of our decision."
"Our decision was made because president Mahmud Abbas is continuing to weaken the Hamas movement and he has not released any Hamas detainees in the West Bank," he said.
Hamas and Abbas's secular Fatah movement have been bitterly divided since Hamas violently seized power in Gaza in June 2007, confining Abbas's rule to the Israeli-occupied West Bank and cleaving Palestinians into two hostile camps.
Abbas spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina criticized Hamas's decision and blamed the group for being responsible for the failure of the talks.
"Hamas carries the responsibility for the failure of the Cairo dialogue and the responsibility for losing the opportunity to regain Palestinian unity and stop the division between Palestinians," he told AFP.
Abu Rudeina also denied Abbas has arrested Hamas members.
Abbas insisted his law enforcement forces arrested people who posed a security risk, irrespective of political affiliation. "They are arrested and brought to justice," he said at a joint news conference on Friday with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in the West Bank city of Ramallah.
Hamas expressed reservations about the plan, which calls for a politically independent transitional government to pave the way for new elections, saying Abbas would get an automatic extension of a term the Islamists insist ends in January.
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Eleven European politicians set sail to Gaza from Cyprus on Friday on a mission aimed at breaching the Israeli siege of the Gaza Strip and assessing the humanitarian crisis in the impoverished territory.
Members of parliament from Britain, Ireland, Switzerland and Italy left the tiny Mediterranean island on a boat arranged by peace activists of the U.S.-based Free Gaza Movement.
"This is an historic time as we have European members of parliament going to Gaza to draw international attention to Israel's collective punishment of 1.5 million Palestinians," said Lord Nazir Ahmad, Labor member of Britain's House of Lords and head of the delegation.
British MP Claire Short, a former minister in Tony Blair's government, said: "We want to witness the living conditions of these people, challenge the siege, and challenge the failure of our governments to uphold the Geneva convention."
"The whole of the EU is colluding to what is taking place in Gaza to our shame," she added.
"There is nothing like seeing what's happening on the ground, it's horrifying," British politician Baroness Jennifer Tonge said.
"To see what humiliation Palestinians go through is just incredible and I don't know how they can stand it on a day-to-day basis," Tonge added.
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Here's hoping they have a Klinghoffer(sp?) outcome.
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To summarize, these corries are setting out to see for themselves the terrible atrocities and outrages being inflicted on the Deutcher Sudeten volk Palestinians and other true Aryans dissenters by the evil Jews Zionist entity.
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Leave Claire Short in Gaza. That will guarantee that there won't be a fourth 'mission' to Gaza.
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The people of Gaza have better nutrition, health care, education and economic prospects than hundreds of millions living in Africa, India and China.
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Deport the Gazans to Cyprus.
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Three Islamic terrorists militants executed for the 2002 Bali bombings that killed 202 people were buried Sunday before hundreds of emotional supporters. Some hard-liners shouted "God is great!" and called the men holy warriors. Fearing attacks in retaliation for the executions, Indonesia increased security at tourist resorts, shopping malls and office buildings. Several embassies, including from the U.S. and Australia, urged their citizens to keep a low profile, saying they could be targeted.
Imam Samudra, 38, and brothers Amrozi Nurhasyim, 47, and Ali Ghufron, 48, were taken before firing squads in a field near their high-security prison on Nusakambangan island just after midnight, Jasman Panjaitan, a spokesman for the attorney general's office, told reporters. The men died instantly, he said, adding that their eyes were left uncovered at their request.
The three men never expressed remorse, saying the blasts were meant to punish the U.S. and its Western allies for alleged atrocities in Afghanistan and elsewhere. They even taunted family members of victims 88 of whom were Australian at their trials five years ago.
The executions, which were sensitive for both political and security reasons, ended years of uncertainty about their fate. Repeated postponements have frustrated survivors and relatives of victims, and enabled the bombers to rally supporters from behind bars by calling for revenge attacks in interviews aired on local television stations or published in newspapers and books.
The bombers' bodies were taken by helicopters to Tenggulun and Serang, their hometowns in east and west Java respectively, where thousands of sympathizers and onlookers turned out Sunday for their funeral processions. Dozens of radicals scuffled briefly with police in Tenggulun, home of the two brothers, Nurhasyim and Ghufron, but there were no serious disturbances.
Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, led the prayers for the brothers, one of their final requests. Former terrorists militants and police allege Bashir headed Jemaah Islamiyah in the early 2000s. But while he was found guilty of giving his blessing to the Bali attacks, his conviction was overturned after he spent more than three years in jail. Bashir said Saturday the bombers had "sacrificed their lives" for "the struggle of Islam."
Though the three Bali bombers said they were happy to die as martyrs, their lawyers fought for years to stop their executions, arguing they were convicted retroactively on anti-terrorism laws. They also opposed death by firing squad, saying their clients preferred beheadings because they were more "humane."
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Torrent of rage as Indonesia on high alert As hundreds of extremists gathered in the bombers' home villages in East and West Java for the funerals yesterday, there were two hoax bomb threats against the Australian Embassy and Indonesia's anti-corruption watchdog, the KPK. The threats were an indication of the widespread resentment towards foreigners, and Australians in particular, after the executions.
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By first light, mobs of supporters had descended on the men's home towns for their funerals, chanting jihadist slogans, clashing with police and threatening foreign journalists. An exception was made for the Qatari-based news service al-Jazeera.
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Supporters of Samudra handed out copies of a letter he wrote before his death "urging all grandchildren to kill all kafirs (non-believers)".
Their deaths drew renewed sympathy from both sides of Australian politics for victims' families, and a commitment to seek an end to capital punishment.
I question which society has the true suicide cult.
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There's a sad sort of clanging
From the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple, too
And up in the nursery
An absurd little bird
Is popping out to say coo-coo (Coo-coo, coo-coo)
(Imam, Arozi, Ali) (coo-coo Regretfully they tell us coo-coo
But firmly they compel us
to say goodnight coo-coo
(Umah)
To you
(Umah)
So long, farewell
Auf Wiedersehen, goodnight
(Imam)
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight
(Imam, Arozi, Ali)
So long, farewell
Auf Wiedersehen, adieu
(Amrozi)
Adieu, adieu
To you and you and you
(Imam, Arozi, Ali)
So long, farewell
Au revoir, Auf Weidersehen
(Ali)
I'd like to stay
And taste my first champagne
(talking to the captain) yes?
(Captain Hook) no!
(Imam, Arozi, Ali)
So long, farewell
Auf Weidersehen, goodbye
(Lerch)
I leave and heave
A sigh and say goodbye
Goodbye
(Teeereeesay)
I'm glad to go
I cannot tell a lie
(Ant Esther)
I flit, I float
I fleetly flee, I fly
(Ali)
The sun has gone
To bed and so must I
(Imam, Arozi, Ali)So long, farewell
Auf Weidersehen, goodbye
Violence in Thailand's predominantly Muslim south could increase in the coming weeks as jihadis separatists there step up their campaign for an independent homeland. In the past few days violence has spiked in the three southernmost provinces of Pattani, Narathiwat and Yala. Two young suspected terrorists insurgents were killed in a gun battle with soldiers on Friday while at least five other people have died and more than 80 were injured in two major incidents last week.
The increase in violence comes amid Thailand's worst political crisis in decades. While the government of Somchai Wongsawat is preoccupied with preventing the country's economic woes worsening as a result of the international financial crisis, anti-government protesters have besieged the capital, forcing the government to move its centre of operations to the old airport on the outskirts of the city. "The political mayhem in Bangkok has hijacked the policy towards the south, allowing the army to conduct increased suppression activities without any real scrutiny," said Sunai Pasuk, a Thai human rights expert with the New York-based Human Rights Watch. "The violence is only likely to rise further, as increased repression will only encourage more young Muslim men to join the jihad separatist movement and fight back." Because, as we all know, nothing decreases terrorism like "scrutiny" designed to tie the hands of the government in its struggle to survive.
This week three massive explosions rocked the southernmost province of Narathiwat killing one person and injuring more than seventy. The biggest explosion was outside an annual meeting of local village chiefs and the bomb used was twice as large as anything the terrorists insurgents have used before. "November is always the month that violent jihadi separatist attacks peak, after a lull during Ramadan," said Srisompob Jitpiromya, director of Deep South Watch, a research centre at the Prince of Songkhla University in Pattani.
"These latest attacks are a wake-up call to the authorities -- the message: 'We are still here and capable of doing damage'," said Panitan Wattanayagorn, a political scientist at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok who specialises in stating the obvious military affairs. "These bombs are significant because of the size and target [hundreds of government officials] -- it's a clear warning to everyone and was certainly meant to sow increased tension and fear within the communities in the south," Prof Panitan said.
Since Jan 2004, when jihadi terrorism separatist violence erupted in these three southern provinces, more than 3,000 people have died and more than 5,000 have been injured. More than 7,000 children in the area have been orphaned by the conflict according to community workers in the area -- higher than the number of tsunami orphans. There are concerns that the violence will spread possibly to key tourist resorts in southern Thailand, including Phuket and even to Bangkok. Tentative plans for a bombing campaign have been found on obvious terrorists suspected insurgents detained by the authorities, according to military sources.
But Mr Pasuk from Human Rights Watch said no evidence has been found to suggest the terrorists insurgents are planning attacks outside the three southern provinces or that they are being assisted by foreign Muslims bodies. "For all we know, they may be planning on lying down with the lambs as we speak!"
He added that civilians were bearing the brunt of the violence. "The real tragedy of this wave insurgency is that it's mainly civilians who are suffering. More than 90 per cent of the victims are students, teachers, doctors and government officials," he said.
A climate of fear hangs over the three southern provinces and a crackdown by security forces in the area has created the conditions for the jihad insurgency to thrive, according to fellow travelers development workers based there. "The authorities accuse all young Muslim men of being insurgents or sympathisers, harass and intimidate them," said Soraya Jamjuree, a leading community organizer member of Friends of Victimised Families, a Pattani-based non-governmental front organisation that works with communities affected by the violence in the south. "As a result the youth leave the villages, angry and dispirited -- it increases the mistrust felt towards the authorities, and hopefully leaves many feeling there is no choice but to join the movement."
Fifteen battalions, or nearly half of the Thai army, is deployed in these three provinces. As a matter of policy they are kept from developing cordial relations with the local community, according to leftist enablers human rights workers monitoring events in the south and who accuse the army of fighting back brutal suppression. "Assassinations, abductions, disappearances, torture and intimidation are the government's only answer to the outrageous provocations legitimate grievances of the bloodthirsty terrorists local people," said Isma-ae Salae, a leader of the Young Muslim Association in Yala province.
Some northern politicians have raised concerns over the government's methods in the south. "It's little wonder they hate us," said Kraisak Murtha Choonahavan, an MP and deputy leader of the Democrats, the main opposition party in parliament, who regularly visits the southern provinces and has conducted his own propaganda campaigns investigations there. "The conditions of those detained are inhuman -- I recently visited a prison where 300 people were cramped into one cell with only one toilet available. These conditions are intolerable," he said.
But the jihad insurgency in the south seems intractable for the time being. Efforts this year to negotiate a ceasefire between the government and representatives of the terrorists insurgents in Indonesia got nowhere as expected. "The military is not interested in dialogue or negotiations," Mr Kraisak said. "They now have an enormous budget -- 30 billion baht -- which has increased six-fold since the violence started four years ago, and we parliamentarians cannot scrutinise any of the budgets." With the Thai government distracted by the political chaos in the capital and the country's economic crisis, the army's operations in the south are not likely to be hindered by civilian concerns. The real fear is that this violence will escalate if the authorities do not move to adopt a more feeble conciliatory approach to the problems in the south. "We must grovel negotiate -- there is no other way out," Mr Kraisak said.
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Defining the boundaries of Israel, from the Euphrates to the Nile, was not a 16th century plot, but a biblical prophecy promised by God to those going into Babylonian exile as a future hope. The real 'Secret of Armageddon' is that Islamists have chosen Allah over the LORD Almighty and the showdown will be rather dramatic on the world stage.
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Compare wid DNA INDIA > ISLAMIC SCHOLARS CALL FOR REDEFINING "JEHAD", + TERRORISM NOW DECLARED "UN-ISLAMIC"; + TOPIX > INDIA'S JAIMAT-ULAM-I-HIND [JUH] GROUP ENDORSES MUSLIM FATWA AGAINST TERRORISM AND VIOLENCE.
A senior U.S. official says American and European representatives have met with Arab countries worried about Iran's influence in the Mideast. Should have thought about that before attempting to kill 100,000 New Yorkers.
The official says foreign ministers from several Arab countries met with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner.
A participant in Sunday's meeting says Arabs are worried about any potential deal on Iran's nuclear program that would give the Persian country more power in the Mideast. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks were confidential.
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Useful idiots, now a feared enemy.
Its such an old story in them parts.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq have reacted to the US presidential election by issuing a statement on Friday directed at President-elect Barack Obama and his incoming administration.
The 22-minute audiotape was posted on several jihadist internet websites and includes an audio message from Abu Umar al-Baghdadi, the pseudonym adopted by the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq, al-Qaeda's affiliate in Iraq. The US military said on Friday that al-Baghdadi was "an actor who provided a voice for al-Qaeda's propaganda".
The statement issued in his name calls on the incoming US administration and allied Western leaders to embrace Islam, withdraw troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, and release Muslim prisoners from there and from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
Compared to previous statements issued by the group this one is relatively mild, imploring America to return to what it calls "impartiality" and even offering not to disrupt Western oil supplies if its conditions are met.
"We promise that we will not stop the trading of oil or other commodities with you, provided that justice is achieved," the audio message said. ...
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Yep, can't get any more subtle than demanding the US "withdraw from ALL MUSLIM LANDS", OR ELSE!
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ION OBAMA, TOPIX > LARIJANI:IRAN EXPECTS MAJOR STRATEGIC POLICY CHANGES FROM OBAMA, espec vee Iran's Nucprogs.
Also, WAFF > COULD THE WAR ON TERROR END? As per proposed US-IGA/Iraq accords, US milfors to be mainly restricted to their bases come mod-2009, wid full departure of US combat troops except for Advisory and Logistical elements in 2011; + OBAMA ADVISOR [Denis McDonough]: NO COMMITMENT [by OBAMA] TO US DEFENSE SHIELD IN EASTERN EUROPE. Obama is willing to deploy US GMD-TMD to Poland, etc. only iff the TECH IS "PROVEN TO WORK"!?
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Somalis living in Britain are channeling cash to al Qaeda-linked Islamist groups committing human rights atrocities in their war-torn homeland, a community leader has claimed. 
The Algerian lawyer Mr. Benyamina said a huge number of real estate properties are still legally owned by French colons who left them after the Independence of Algeria in 1962, adding that several cases concerning these disputes have been submitted to Algerian courts. 
The official threat level is classed as being "Severe" - this is one down from the highest level, "Critical", which means an attack is imminent. Over the last few months, we in Britain have become a little obsessed with the economy, falling house prices and the credit crunch, but it should not be forgotten that a significant number of UK citizens have been planning to carry out attacks with the aim of causing mass casualties.
(APP): President Asif Ali Zardari Saturday reiterated the resolve not to spare any effort to root out militancy and terrorism in the country. Talking to a seven-member delegation of MPAs from Swat at the President House, he said police and para military forces were being strengthened in Swat and other areas to enhance their capacity to fight the militants.
(APP): Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Sherry Rehman has condemned the US missile attack in North Waziristan that killed 10 people on Friday. "The series of unilateral actions against targets on Pakistan's soil is a self‑defeating strategy. The US Administration's reluctance to consider the repercussions of such operations is damaging the whole purpose of global efforts to combat terrorism," said the Federal Information Minister commenting on the reports of the fresh US attacks on the FATA region, according to a press release issued here.
The three-member presidency council of Iraq approves a controversial resolution that will set aside six local council seats for minorities. "In order to fix the rights of the minority seats in the future, the presidency council decided to approve the decision voted on before by the parliament," said Naseer al-Ani, chief of staff for the council. 
Palestinian reconciliation talks due to be held in Cairo were called off on Saturday after Hamas announced a boycott in protest at the detention of hundreds of its members by president Mahmud Abbas's security forces. 
Eleven European politicians set sail to Gaza from Cyprus on Friday on a mission aimed at breaching the Israeli siege of the Gaza Strip and assessing the humanitarian crisis in the impoverished territory. 
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