[Dawn] Afghanistan's Caped PresidentHamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai ... A former Baltimore restaurateur, now 12th and current President of Afghanistan, displacing the legitimate president Rabbani in December 2004. He was installed as the dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001 in a vain attempt to put a Pashtun face on the successor state to the Taliban. After the 2004 presidential election, he was declared president regardless of what the actual vote count was. He won a second, even more dubious, five-year-term after the 2009 presidential election. His grip on reality has been slipping steadily since around 2007, probably from heavy drug use... telephoned Pakistain Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani ... Pakistain's erstwhile current prime minister, whose occasional feats of mental gymnastics can be awe-inspiring ... on Tuesday to urge him to reconsider a boycott of the Bonn conference over a deadly NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A collection of multinational and multilingual and multicultural armed forces, all of differing capabilities, working toward a common goal by pulling in different directions... strike, officials in both countries said.
Karzai's deputy front man Siamak Herawi told AFP that Pakistain was an important participant in the conference aimed at bridging peace after 10 years of war against the Taliban, and expressed hope that they would ultimately attend.
"President Hamid Karzai called Prime Minister Gilani and officially asked the Pakistain government to participate in the Bonn conference," said Herawi.
"We regard Pakistain as an important country and are optimistic they will attend the Bonn conference."
Pakistain said it would skip the conference on Afghanistan after a NATO strike on Saturday killed 24 Pak soldiers on the border.
Pakistain has already closed the Afghan border to NATO convoys, a lifeline for 140,000 foreign troops in Afghanistan, ordered American personnel to vacate an air base reportedly used by CIA drones and ordered a review of the alliance.
Gilani's office issued a statement confirming that Karzai had asked the prime minister to reconsider, but gave no hint of an official rethink.
Gilani said that Pakistain had been extending complete cooperation for peace and stability in Afghanistan.
"However, there is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened... he further added that how could a country whose own illusory sovereignty and territorial integrity was violated from Afghan soil play such a constructive role?" Earlier, Afghanistan's foreign ministry said it had not yet received an official confirmation that Pakistain would opt out of the meeting.
"Our Pak brothers should remember that Bonn is an Afghan conference, it will be chaired and led by Afghans," said foreign ministry front man Janan Mosazai.
A Pak government official earlier told AFP on condition of anonymity that the cabinet had decided not to attend the event over the crisis.
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ION DEFENCE.PK/FORUM > [TheNews.com.PK] NATO, PAK FORCES CLASH AGAIN: US PAPER [un-named].
[Daily Nation (Kenya)] Over 1.4 million Somalis face starvation after the Al-Shabaab ... Somalia's version of the Taliban, functioning as an arm of al-Qaeda... banished 16 humanitarian organizations from Southern Somalia.
The United Nations ...an organization whose definition of human rights is interesting, to say the least... and its refugee agency, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees warned that millions of displaced Somalis faced a humanitarian crisis after the Death Eaters expelled the aid agencies.
The agencies were accused of collaborating with the Kenyan military and the Transitional Federal Government troops in running Al-Shabaab out of their bases in southern Somalia.
UN Secretary-General the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon ... of whom it can be said to his credit that he is not Kofi Annan... described as brazen the seizure of property and equipment of the aid agencies.
The UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Valerie Amos also warned that famine could return to some drought-hit areas.
Separately, the refugees agency warned that the ban had placed the lives of millions of Somalia people in danger.
"More than two thirds of Somalia's estimated 1.46 million internally displaced people in the south and central parts need immense humanitarian aid," the agency said in a statement.
The Death Eaters accused the aid agencies of conducting activities that did not subscribe to Islamic practices.
Among the organizations expelled are the World Health Organisation, the UN Population Fund, the UN Office for Project Services and the Food Security and Nutrition Analysis Unit.
The refugees commissioner reported that over 500 people, including children were walking from the towns of Beles Qooqaani, Tabta and Afmadow towards Dobley without food.
Federal president Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed termed the terrorist group "an enemy" of the Somali people.
The president also urged the United Nations to lift an arms embargo imposed on the war-torn country in 1992 so his government can set up military bases in areas captured by Kenyan troops and their allies.
Meanwhile, ...back at the sea battle, the Terror of the Baltic's career had come to an abrupt and watery end... Kenya on Tuesday received a top Al-Shabaab commander who defected from the terrorist outfit in Busar, one of the liberated towns.
Kenya military front man Major Emmanuel Chirchir said the middle level commander was assisting them with "valuable information regarding the enemy. He has told us that there are many of his colleagues who want to surrender but fear that they may be victimized by the federal government. We are encouraging them to surrender," said Major Chirchir.
Meanwhile, ...back at the ranch, Butch and the Kid finally brought their horses under control... a senior Al-Shabaab official said on Tuesday that the International Committee of the Red Thingy, medical aid charity MSF and Italia's Copi were not banned.
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I'm kinda busy and tired today, I didn't have time for the essay answer to this. These guys want to basically kill via (probably artificial) starvation roughly 1.5 million people. I can't think of a good answer to that.
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The Muslim Brotherhood...said their new Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) was ahead in preliminary results.
"From the start of the voting process until now (around 0930 GMT), preliminary results show the Freedom and Justice party list ahead," a statement from the group said, without giving figures.
In a surprise trend that would alarm secular liberals and the country's minority Christian community, the FJP also claimed that hardline Islamists who follow the strict Salafi brand of Islam were in second position.
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The big losers will be the Egyptian women and religious/socio/ethnic minorities.
"The people of Egypt have spoken. Their voices have been heard and Egypt will never be the same," Obean® said. "By stepping down, President Mubarak responded to the Egyptian people's hunger for change, but this is not the end of Egypt's transition. It's the beginning."
Truer words have never been spoken. An almost 21st century society will regress 1,300 years.
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Among a bunch if disorganized rioters, they were the most organized group; the strong horse. Certainly the current administration could have seen this coming. Of course maybe they did. Look for Libya to go this way next.
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BHO's obscene al-azhar apology set the stage for islamonazism.
Fred: please ban use of the phrase here: "we have to respect the wishes of the _____ people." They are nothing but a pack of headless-chickens posing as human beings. If stupidity was a crime, few arabs would be walking free.
Muammar Qadaffy's ... one of those little rainstorms from the Arab Spring... once-powerful son Seif al-Islam is now just a "helpless criminal" in the Libyan hilltown of Zintan, where he can stay until he goes on trial, officials and town residents say.
"For Zintan he is just a helpless criminal. He is not a danger. We have no problem in keeping him here and we can hold him until his trial begins if it is better for Libya," said Ibrahim Turki, the National Transitional Council's health coordinator in Zintan. They usually say something like that just before a gang of heavily armed revanchists busts him out so he can lead the counterrevolution.
"The Libyan authorities will decide his fate," he said. "And then they'll hang him!"
Unless he can point them to the $2 billion bribe he was reported to have offered the guys who caught him. Then there might be room for negotiation. Krugerrands have a way of doing that...
Residents of Zintan, a southern Libyan town now famous for its high-profile captive, told AFP that Seif was being moved regularly from one secret location to another to ensure his safety and protect him from the brutal end faced by his father. ... and to keep the well-organized gang of Qadaffy revanchists from spiriting him away.
On October 20, Qadaffy was lynched by his captors in Libya's western city of Misrata. Leaked footage of the deposed leader's final moments showed his bloodied, limp body being hauled onto the back of a pick-up truck as dozens of frenzied gunnieshad gun sex.
Qadaffy's death triggered widespread global condemnation and forced Libya's new rulers to launch an investigation into the circumstances of his killing. The "widespread global condemnation" is more a sign of how ostentatiously fastidious we've become. Muammar was a bloody-handed dictator, literally. He was a sadist. He was a megalomaniac. Now he's a dead sadistic megalomaniac. It's no skin of my fore. I haven't lost a minute's sleep over his demise.
Some Zintan residents said they initially believed Seif would also face a violent death, but are now confident he will likely live long enough to go on trial. After which he'll face a violent death. See how much more civilized that is?
"We were initially worried that he may face the same fate as his father. But he is in safe custody and poses no danger to Zintan or to Libya," said Shaban al-Waer, 48, a self-employed resident of the town. "He can be held here even for a year without any problem," he said.
Seif's location has remained a closely guarded secret, with residents saying there has been no sign of the captive since his initial arrest on November 19. NTC officials have only confirmed that Seif is still in Zintan.
"He is in a secured location," Libya's Deputy Prime Minister Mustafa Abu Shagur told news hounds in Tripoli on Tuesday.
Shagur said Qadaffy's son is being treated in accordance with international standards. "Of course he has been and continues to be treated in accordance with international standards and not in the way he used to treat our prisoners," he said. My point entirely. In the days after Seif's capture, media reports suggested that Zintan's military council was refusing to hand him over to NTC officials unless the commander of the unit that captured him was named Libya's defence minister. Last week, the commander, Osama Juili, was given the defence minister's post. Well, imagine that!
Seif al-Islam's fate remains a challenge to the new Libyan leadership as it tries to balance demands for Dire Revenge against Qadaffy's most prominent son and heir apparent, and calls by the international community to give Seif a fair trial.
The International Criminal Court ... where Milosevich died of old age before being convicted ... , which wants to try him on charges of crimes against humanity, too has called on the Libyan leadership to ensure Seif is unharmed, and treated in accordance with international laws and norms. In a statement Friday, the ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo said the trial of Seif could be held in Libya under ICC auspices. This the sign of desperation for the ICC as it struggles to demonstrate its relevance -- it's that or face the loss of their funding, and no western organization will suffer that...
Shagur said Seif will get a fair trial. "It (trial) will happen at the right time. He will be facing a fair and just trial," he said when asked when could the trial commence.
Despite international fears that Seif's safety is at risk, Zintan residents expressed their desire to see justice take its course, and prove once and for all, the new Libya will be lawful, not vengeful. "He (Seif) deserves a fair trial and he will get one. I am sure," said Salam Ali Ahmed, a shopkeeper in Zintan whose grocery shop overlooks the town's main square, packed with pictures of citizens killed in the fight to overthrow the former regime.
For Waer, Qadaffy's son will remain innocent until proven guilty. "Only a fair trial can prove his doings. We need to find out whether he ordered the killing of Libyans during the revolt against his father," he said. "We need to find out whether he used Libyan money to kill Libyans ... he may not be guilty" of these offences, he added.
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[An Nahar] A group of Salafist ...Salafists espouse an austere form of Sunni Islam that seeks a return to practices that were common in the 7th century. Rather than doing that themselves and letting other people alone they insist everybody do as they say and they try to kill everybody who doesn't... s disrupted classes on Monday at a university west of the capital Tunis, demanding a stop to mixed-sex classes and for female students to wear full face veils, officials said.
"A group of Salafists, dressed like the Afghans, have been camped in front of my office since early afternoon," Habib Kazdaghli, the dean of faculty at the University of Manuba, told Agence La Belle France Presse.
The group of several dozen students interrupted an English class in the morning, Kazdaghli said.
"They want girls to wear the niqab, a mosque in the middle of the campus, a stop to mixed classes and a prohibition of women teaching male students and vice versa," he said, adding that it marked the first such incident on campus.
Tunisia's Salafists have become more assertive in recent months, following the revolution that ousted a staunchly secular regime along with president Zine el Abidine Ben Ali in January following mass protests.
The ministry of higher education "firmly" condemned the incident, saying that "all recourse to violence is inadmissible and intolerable."
In regards to policies concerning the niqab, a ministry spokesperson told AFP that "according to current regulations, each student must be able to be identified before accessing the university, for pedagogic and security reasons."
Visible again on the streets of Tunis and other major cities, their new assertiveness has led to a number of more or less violent festivities.
In the eastern city of Sousse earlier this month, some 200 Islamists stormed the university campus after a female student wearing the niqab, or burka, full face veil was not allowed to sign up.
On October 9 in Tunis, a mob of Salafists tried to attack the offices of private Nessma TV station that aired "Persepolis", a French-Iranian animation film in which God is represented as an old bearded man.
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This is probably creating terrible PR for the Salafists in Tunisia, and hopefully the public will applaud the police when they round up a big herd of them and put them in an "austere" prison in the middle of the desert.
[Daily Nation (Kenya)] Morocco's King Mohammed VI on Tuesday named the head of the Islamist party that won last week's election as prime minister to lead talks on the formation of a coalition government, the palace said.
Abdelilah Benkirane, head of the moderate Islamist Justice and Development Party (PJD), was summoned to the palace after results showed his party won the biggest block of votes in Friday's ballot.
It was the first election in the north African country since the monarch introduced constitutional reforms as the Arab Spring swept through the region.
The PJD won 107 of the 395 seats in parliament, a result that set the stage for it to become the first Islamist party at the head of a coalition government in Morocco.
An AFP journalist witnessed Benkirane taking the oath after a brief meeting with the king.
Under a new constitution adopted in July as the popular uprisings gripped other Arab states, the king had to choose a prime minister from the winning party instead of naming whoever he pleases, as in the past.
After meeting the monarch, "Benkirane will start talks with the parties that should make up the coalition," PJD parliamentary leader Lahcen Daoudi had told AFP Monday.
An Islamist party has never been allowed in government before, but the PJD has sworn allegiance to the monarchy.
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CAIRO -- People waited in lines that ran hundreds of yards outside polling stations surrounded by police and soldiers in what many Egyptians regarded as the first free elections in decades. Men and women were in separate lines so long authorities extended voting by two hours. But overall the voting was smooth, election monitors said.
Previous elections were always usually rigged by the Egyptian dictatorships until the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak in February. Political opponents were banned or jailed in the past and election results were widely considered to be fraudulent.
Monday's elections are for the lower house of parliament and will be held in three rounds over the next two months. But not all were pleased.
No, of course not...
Protesters continued to occupy Tahrir Square, where clashes between security forces and protesters broke out Nov. 19. Demonstrators were demanding that the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, ruling since Mubarak's departure, be replaced by a civilian body until a president is elected in mid-2012.
Many feared violence would break out at polling stations, but the mood was generally subdued.
Polls indicated that the Muslim Brotherhood's political arm, the Freedom and Justice Party, is expected to win the most sizable portion of seats in parliament of any party.
Expected, as in planned...
Some analysts predict Islamists -- Brotherhood candidates and Salafi Muslims who practice a hard-line strain of Islam -- likely will win a majority of seats.
The electoral law was modified significantly leading up to elections in a supposed attempt to ensure that the Muslim Brotherhood wins all parties and minorities are represented in the parliament. Voters cast ballots that had individuals and party lists. Independent candidates were running for one-third of parliament's 498 seats, and two-thirds of seats were reserved for winning party lists. Also, half of the seats were allotted to "farmers" and "workers."
How soviet of them...
"We've moved from probably the simplest form, which was a majoritarian system, to probably the most complex of electoral systems, which is a mixed system," said Mazen Hassan, a lecturer in political science at Cairo University.
Because Egypt is well beyond simple systems...
Among concerns are the complicated ways votes will be counted, such as the difference between how votes are calculated for independent candidates vs. those for parties.
It's so complicated you need an army general to do the counting. You simple peasants wouldn't understand.
"There are mathematical calculations that everyday Egyptians won't be able to follow," Hassan said. "If justice needs to be watched and understood, that will be difficult. Not all people will understand how votes translate into seats."
Problems were already seen Monday. Some polls opened an hour or two late. Additionally, the Egyptian Coalition for Electoral Observation documented violations in the form of non-stamped ballot papers, and thuggish acts that in one case prevented voters from reaching the polls.
Some political parties boycotted the election, claiming that under military rule, elections will be illegitimate.
"We cannot get a clean election while Mubarak's army generals are still in charge," said Hossam al Hamalawy, a member of both the Democratic Workers Party and the Revolutionary Socialists group, which are boycotting the elections. "Police who are supposed to be securing the ballot boxes are the same ones who have been murdering us for the last days, months and years."
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On the eve of this happy occasion, we in Israel have a message for the Great Egyptian People.
William Hague has demanded the immediate closure of the Iranian Embassy in London and ordered all its staff to leave the country in retaliation for an attack on the British Embassy in Tehran. The Foreign Secretary has given the Iranian diplomats just 48 hours to get out the UK, he told the Commons today.
It comes after hardline protesters stormed the British Embassy in Iran yesterday and tried to take staff hostage. All British staff have been safely evacuated, Mr Hague said.
Today Mr Hague told parliament: 'The Iranian charge (d'affaires) in London is being informed now that we require the immediate closure of the Iranian embassy in London and that all Iranian diplomatic staff must leave the United Kingdom within the next 48 hours. We have now closed the British embassy in Tehran. We have decided to evacuate all our staff and as of the last few minutes, the last of our UK-based staff have now left Iran.'
Today the speaker of Iran's parliament criticised the UN Security Council over its condemnation of the embassy in Tehran and said the resolution, passed unanimously on Wednesday, put global security at risk.'The hasty move in the Security Council in condemning the students' actions was done to cover up previous crimes of America and Britain while the police did all they could to keep the peace,' Ali Larijani told parliament in an address broadcast live on state radio. 'This devious action will lead to instability in global security,' he said.
So, how many of the 'students' have been arrested for their actions, Mr. Larijani? Isn't that what a thug state generally does when 'students' act contrary to the wishes of the regime?
Today Mr Hague also announced that Iranian ambassadors had been summoned in countries across Europe to receive strong protests over the storming of the British embassy. 'If any country makes it impossible for us to operate on their soil they cannot expect to have a functioning embassy here,' Mr Hague said. 'This does not amount to the severing of diplomatic relations in their entirety. It is action that reduces our relations with Iran to the lowest level consistent with the maintenance of diplomatic relations,' he added.
Hague said it was 'fanciful' to think the Iranian authorities could not have protected the British embassy, or that the assault could have taken place without 'some degree of regime consent'.
[Tripoli Post] Norwegians have been shocked rather than surprised by the news, Tuesday, that Psychiatrists assessing self-confessed Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik have concluded that he is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, and was in a psychotic state both during and after the June 22 twin attacks that led to the deaths of 77 people and injured 151. But still he killed them, didn't he?
The report stating that Breivik is criminally insane, must still be reviewed by a panel of forensic psychiatrists from the Norwegian Board of Forensic Medicine. Does that mean he'll be kept for the rest of his life in a straight jacket? Or will be become a Norwegian version of John Hinckley, going to visit Mom on weekends and coming up for periodic reevaluations?
The Norwegian public's reaction was one of disbelief for a person whose opinions seem to set him apart from war criminals, who are tried in court as if they are sane. How do his opinions set him apart from them? He a wannabe Nazi, let him get what the real Nazis got. Be nice to him by giving him the kind of pill Goering had.
Breivik, 32, who admits carrying out the attacks will still stand trial on April 16 for a hearing scheduled to last around 10 weeks, but it seems likely he will be placed in psychiatric care rather than in prison. Until he's cured, of course. Then he'll be ever so much better. And all those people he killed won't be dead anymore.
Breivik has pleaded not guilty "Wudn't me." to charges, arguing that that the attacks were atrocious but necessary for his campaign to defend Europe against a Moslem invasion that was being enabled by what he called "cultural Marxists" in Norway's Labour Party, and the EU. Some of us have a bit of a problem with rubbing out mostly a bunch of teenagers at summer camp, whether they're "cultural Marxists" or not.
Two psychiatrists interviewed him on 13 occasions. Betcha that was adventurous...
Tuesday their 243-page report concluded that he lived in his "own delusional universe where all his thoughts and acts are guided by his delusions", prosecutors said. Yet a single bullet could bring that entire universe to a screeching halt, never to delude again...
Norwegian prosecutor Svein Holden said: "The observed person was psychotic". The report will now be reviewed by a panel. Who will say profound things like "And what do we mean by psychosis, Doctor? Isn't it possible that we're the ones who're psycho and this man is perfectly sane?"
Another prosecutor, Inga Bejer Engh told news hounds in Oslo: "If the final conclusion is that Breivik is insane, we will request that the court in the upcoming legal proceedings pass sentence by which Breivik is subjected to compulsory mental health care". Does that mean keeping him in a straight jacket for life? What happens if he gets loose?
Before the report was made public, a lawyer for the victims said it did not matter what the conclusion was as long as Breivik was not allowed to go free. "And what do we mean by 'freedom,' Doctor? Isn't it possible that we're the ones who aren't free, while this man is at liberty to roam his carefully constructed universe that exists in his head, gaily picking spring flowers and harvesting culturally Marxist teenagers with an illegal Uzi?"
The shock is heightened by the media portrayal of Breivik as carefully planning his actions as a functioning member of society. He does not match the public's idea of a paranoid schizophrenic. He doesn't sound like your run-of-the-mill loop loop, but he does sound like a loop loop.
John Christian Elden, a lawyer for the victims told the BBC: "What will happen in the case, no matter what the conclusion, is that he (Breivik) will of course be incarcerated. And if the outcome is criminally sane or insane, that is, first and foremost a psychiatric question. The most important thing in our clients' opinion is that he will not be able to walk the streets." If he had three eye sockets and no back to his head he wouldn't be able to walk the streets, either. Barring a zombie eruption his chances of recidivism would be just about zero.
On July 22, Breivik disguised himself as a police officer to plant a car boom that went kaboom! close to government offices in the capital Oslo, killing eight people. Then, still in uniform, he drove to the island of Utoeya, where a summer youth camp of Norway's governing Labour Party was being held. There he opened fire in a shooting spree that lasted more than an hour. During it he killed 69 people - mostly teenagers.
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Does somebody's extreme opinions preclude them from being held responsible for their actions?
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The government has created a catch-22 with this. Since he is likely not insane, or doesn't come across as what the public thinks of insanity, it smacks of what authoritarian states do to political prisoners. It also seems that they are *afraid* of what he has to say, afraid that others will agree with him.
Other than that, his logic as a nationalist fascist was excellent. He has severely crippled that very left wing party, whose open floodgates immigration policy might have eventually overwhelmed Norway with foreigners who would vote for that party.
It would not take many more to do this, as immigrants are now 12% of their otherwise small population of only 4.9m people, and it seems to be a strategy employed by very left wing parties affiliated with the socialist international, in many places.
But having a small population also makes the damage he did to the Labour Party (membership 49,407), pretty devastating, as these youth were the cream of the crop of future party leaders. Replacing them will be very hard, and this puts their entire agenda at risk.
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I've worked in the forensic psychiatric services (AKA "criminally insane") of the UK and Australia for about 20 years. I'm not pretending I'm conversant with the Norwegian criminal justice or psychiatric systems, HOWEVER, I do know that in most countries (without modern anti-terrorist mechanisms to detain indefinitely without a trial such as the USA) that when a criminal act is committed and the suspect deemed to have "capacicity" might serve a limited sentence for good behavior, cooperation and leniency, BUT someone deemed criminally insane (having commited a violent crime) has far more chance of indefinite or protracted detention.
So, in this sense Breivik could theoretically be detained in Norway for much, much longer through the forensic psychiatric systems than the criminal justice system.
Doug Ross dived into the list and found this about Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler visits -- details at link:
Item 3: Newly released White House Visitor Logs list Grindler as having visited the White House 40 times, but only four times with the President himself. All four meetings with the President occurred over a two-week period, between 7 May 2010 and 19 May 2010
Summary: In early 2010, Gary Grindler was intimately involved in all aspects of Operation Fast and Furious. During the height of the operation, Grindler visited the President on four separate occasions in only two weeks -- his only documented meetings with the president at the White House.
So my question is this:
What did President Obama know -- and when did he know it?
[Dawn] A majority of Americans do not see Pakistain as a friend to the United States, says an opinion survey released on Monday. I like to think the 'Burg has had something to do with that. But the Paks did help.
The survey, conducted on Nov 27, a day after a NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. It's headquartered in Belgium. That sez it all.... air strike killed 25 Pak soldiers, asked US citizens: Do you consider Pakistain to be a friend or enemy of the United States?
An enemy to the US was the choice of 55 per cent respondents. Only seven pc said they considered Pakistain a friend, 26 pc did not consider Pakistain a friend or enemy and 12 pc did not have an opinion.
The surveyors, a US polling agency called Poll Positions, noted that the relationship between the United States and Pakistain had been up and down over the past years.
The US considers Pakistain a strong ally on the war on terror. However, today is that tomorrow you were thinking about yesterday... America politicians expressed some dismay when the late Osama bin Laden ... who is now sometimes referred to as Mister Bones... was found living in a house near a Pak military intelligence facility. He had reportedly been living there for several years. Pakistain said it did not know Bin Laden was there.
The surveyors pointed out that Pakistain also had expressed anger towards the US over predator drone missile strikes that have killed civilians and members of the Pak military.
Oh? How is it that members of the Pakistani military were close enough to jihadi targets that they were killed as well?
The US says predator drone strikes are an effective tool in targeting terrorists.
Last month, the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ... sometimes described as The Woman to Call at 3 a.m. and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Elihu Root ... visited Pakistain as part of a concerted effort to improve relations but the relationship nose-dived when US-led NATO forces blew up two Pak military posts near the Afghan border on Saturday, stirring countrywide protests.
The survey also shows another change in US attitudes towards Pakistain. Until recently, Pakistain was more popular among the conservative-minded Republicans apparently because of close ties between the two militaries while Democrats had strong reservations against the country.
But Sunday`s survey shows that now more Republicans see Pakistain as an enemy than Democrats or independents. Among Republicans, 70 pc consider Pakistain an enemy, 6 pc said Pakistain is a friend, 12 pc chose neither, and 12 pc had no opinion.
Democrats countered with 47 pc considering Pakistain an enemy, 11 pc said Pakistain is a friend, 30 pc said neither, and 12 pc offered no opinion. Among Independents, 45 pc looked at Pakistain as an enemy, 4 pc a friend, 37 pc said neither friend nor enemy, and 14 pc did not offer an opinion.
Poll Position`s scientific telephone survey of 1,176 registered voters nationwide was conducted on Nov 27 and has a margin of error of plus, minus three pc.
Poll results are weighted to be a representative sampling of all American adults.
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well, I guess we better send them another billion in AID. Or we could just give them the rest of the gas stations in the US since they seem too run 90% of them anyway.
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Rantburgers,LWJ & anyone on the ground in Afghanistan KNOW Pakistan is an Enemy!
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The US has provided over $20 billion to Pakistan since 2001.
A lot of this is to prevent their nukes from being stolen. Some went to the Pak army to help fight Al Q. Much of the rest ended in the hands of politicos and their cronies. Perhaps 5-10% got to the population.
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It's just the govmint that holds onto the meme that they are not our enemy.
[Dawn] The legal fraternity on Monday condemned the NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis.... attack and demanded that the government give a befitting response to the NATO forces for intruding into Pak territory and attacking Pak forces in which 24 soldiers bit the dust and 13 others were maimed on Nov 26.
This was demanded in a resolution adopted unanimously during a joint general body meeting of the Sindh High Court bar, the Bloody Karachi bar associations and the Sindh Bar Council held at the SHCBA bar room to condemn the aggression.
Legal proceedings remained completely suspended at subordinate courts of the city as lawyers observed a boycott to condemn the NATO attack on Pak forces.
The courts wore a deserted look as the lawyers stayed away from courts while judges remained in their chambers.Hundreds of cases fixed for the day at the city courts and the district court of Malir were simply put off due to non-production of undertrial prisoners.
The Malir Bar Association also denounced the attack and urged the government to stop NATO supplies on a permanent basis and disengage itself from the so-called "war on terror".
In the resolution, the lawyers also demanded suspension of transmission of Western TV channels involved in what they called a "malicious propaganda", adds PPI.
SHCBA President Anwar Mansoor Khan presided over the meeting held in the SHCBA bar room.
The general body meeting strongly condemned the unprovoked NATO air strikes on the Pak posts at Salala in Mohmand ... Named for the Mohmand clan of the Sarban Pahstuns, a truculent, quarrelsome lot. In Pakistain, the Mohmands infest their eponymous Agency, metastasizing as far as the plains of Beautiful Downtown Peshawar, Charsadda, and Mardan. Mohmands are also scattered throughout Pakistan in urban areas including Karachi, Lahore, and Quetta. In Afghanistan they are mainly found in Nangarhar and Kunar... Agency.
"This illegal action is an attack on the illusory sovereignty of Pakistain," the resolution said.
The body condemned the western media, especially BBC and Fox News, for maliciously airing the uncalled for and provocative programmes and maligning the armed forces of Pakistain and the government of Pakistain, making incorrect statements "aimed at discrediting Mohammedans of the world and Paks in particular".
The meeting demanded that the government take a forceful action against the intruders and murderers of 24 Pak soldiers and permanently stop NATO supplies passing through the country.
It further demanded ending cooperation with NATO at all levels, closure of Shamsi Airbase and other such bases and cancellation of all defence agreements held with them.
The meeting called upon all Paks to withdraw their investments they had made in NATO member countries.
The government was urged to put an immediate halt to drone attacks and give compensation to families of innocent victims of such attacks.
All parliamentary resolutions were implemented in respect of drone attacks, the resolution demanded.
The Pakistain Electronic Media Regulatory Authority should prohibit "anti-Pakistain channels" being aired while Pak channels should highlight national perspective, it was demanded.
The bar stood behind the armed forces and the government of Pakistain and called upon them to initiate all actions which they deemed fit to protect the illusory sovereignty of Pakistain, the resolution said.
The general body meeting praised Pak armed forces for their steadfastness and expressed the hope that they would remain vigilant to protect borders of the country.
Fateha was also offered for the dear departed soldiers.
The lawyers also prayed for the solidarity, prosperity, well-being and illusory sovereignty of the country.
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these would be the same legal geniuses that routinely riot, beat each other and judges, and are generally loud-mouthed pretentious assholes? That Pak Legal Community?
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[Dawn] Pak cable television operators on Tuesday threatened to block Western news channels they say are anti-Pak, as fury spread over a NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A collection of multinational and multilingual and multicultural armed forces, all of differing capabilities, working toward a common goal by pulling in different directions... attack that killed 24 Pak soldiers.
"We want to send them a strong message to stop this. If they don't stop this, then it is our right to stop them," Khalid Arain, president of the All Pakistain Cable Operators Association said in a live presser. The BBC was the focus of criticism.
Go ahead and ban the BBC -- let's take a look in six months to see how that went. By the way, how many paying subscribers does the Association have?
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[Dawn] Interior Minister Rehman Malik Pak politician, current Interior Minister under the Gilani administration. Malik is a former Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) intelligence officer who rose to head the FIA during Benazir Bhutto's second tenure. He later joined the Pak Peoples Party and was chief security officer to Bhutto. Malik was tossed from his FIA job in 1998 after documenting the breath-taking corruption of the Sharif family. By unhappy coincidence Näwaz Shärif became PM at just that moment and Malik moved to London one step ahead of the button men. said that recent killings in Bloody Karachi were not a result of sectarian strife and that involvement of a foreign hand could not be ruled out.
Of course. How could it be otherwise?
Speaking to media representatives at the Allama Iqbal International Airport here Tuesday, he said foreign elements were attempting to shatter the country's peace through propagation of hatred and sectarianism.
To a question, he said the PPP-led government's action against NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. It's headquartered in Belgium. That sez it all.... was in accordance with the sentiments of the people of Pakistain. He added that the federal government had suspended NATO supplies to Afghanistan through Pakistain and also issued notice to US authorities regarding the evacuation of Shamsi airbase in Balochistan ...the Pak province bordering Kandahar and Uruzgun provinces in Afghanistan and Sistan Baluchistan in Iran. Its native Baloch propulation is being displaced by Pashtuns and Punjabis and they aren't happy about it... within 15 days.
The interior minister said the international community must realise the fact that Pakistain had suffered a lot in the war on terrorism.
To another question about former foreign minister Shah Mehmood Wormtongue Qureshi, he said difference of opinion was the essence of democracy.
"Political success is always decided through a public vote and holding a gathering of people does not matter," he maintained.
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[Dawn] Awami National Party central chief Asfandyar Wali Khan has said that no one can wipe out Pakhtuns from their soil as they know how to defend their land.
"Pakhtuns want peace on their soil and they have been working for peace and tranquility in their region," he told a big public gathering at Bacha Khan Hospital Complex in Shahmansoor here on Monday.
The ANP chief said that armed forces were capable to counter external threat and no country should allow use of its territory for attacks against Pakistain.
"The NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. It's headquartered in Belgium. That sez it all.... strike is an aggression against the country. We would defend our country with complete vigour and no one is allowed to violate our boundaries and attack our forces," he said.
On the occasion, many workers of different parties from Buner and Mardan announced joining ANP. All key leaders of the party were present on the occasion.
"Our leaders and workers have rendered numerous sacrifices for the country`s illusory sovereignty and solidarity. The followers of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan are ready to lay down their lives for the motherland," Mr Khan said.
He said that ANP fought against invaders and its leaders and workers played a leading role in fighting against the usurpers. He added that some elements hatched conspiracies against the democratic setup in the country. However, there's more than one way to skin a cat... he did not elaborate.
He said that if he was reelected central president of the party, in the elections being held on Nov 30, he would ask ANP provincial chief Afrasiab Khattak to bring back annoyed workers to the party fold.
Addressing on the occasion, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa ... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central... Chief Minister Ameer Haider Khan Hoti enumerated various achievements of his government, saying they succeeded on many fronts where previous governments had failed.
Referring to NFC award, he said that they had Rs40 billions in their exchequer that would be spent on the welfare of people. The ANP government succeeded to increase its share in oil and gas royalty from Rs330 millions to Rs16 billions, he said. "The provincial government has set up its own Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Oil and Gas Development Company," Mr Hoti said.
He sanctioned the extension of Pehur High Level Canal, which was a longstanding demand of the people. He said that government allowed Rs30 million for its survey, which was expected to be completed within three months.
"After the survey, government will start work on the mega project, which will irrigate thousands kanals land in the district," he added.
The chief minister said that he also sanctioned Rs580 million for the construction of 30 kilometres Topi-Utla Road. He said that the road would be named after Hanif Gul Jadoon, who was killed in a suicide kaboom on Eid day.
"The government has also provided Rs460 million for construction of Swabi Police Lines, which was attacked by the jacket wallah on November 1, 2010," he said.
Mr Hoti said that Rs140 million were allocated for construction and repairing of Swabi-Mardan Road. About Razaar tehsil, he said that they allocated Rs220 million for the building of the new tehsil. The construction of the building was delayed because the fund was diverted to help flood survivors, he said.
He allocated Rs600 million for uplift schemes in six provincial assembly constituencies in the district.
Afrasiab Khattak, Minister for Zakat and Ushr Zar Shaid Khan and district president Haji Rehmanullah also spoke on the occasion.
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until you teach them how too aim I would shut the fuck up.
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[Al Ahram] Paleostinian economy minister Hassan Abu Libdeh said on Tuesday he will 'suspend' his official work to fight charges of fraud levelled against him last week. Fraud? In the Paleostinian government? That's never happened before, has it?
The attorney general has charged Abu Libdeh on four counts of fraud and financial wrongdoing, according to a copy of a charge sheet issued November 21 and seen on Tuesday by AFP. The charges allegedly relate to Abu Libdeh's time as the head of the Paleostinian Capital Market Authority, before he joined the government headed by prime minister Salam Fayyad. ...Fayyad's political agenda holds that neither violence nor peaceful negotiations have brought the Paleostinians any closer to an independent state. The alternative to both, violent negotiations, doesn't seem to be working too well, either... Abu Libdeh has denied any wrongdoing "No, no! Certainly not!"
and said in a statement that he planned to "suspend" his official work to fight the allegations. "Even though the case we're talking about has nothing to do with my duties as the minister of economy... I cannot continue to perform my functions efficiently while facing these vicious attacks, defamation and the spreading of vicious rumours against me and my family," he said.
"Based on this, I announce that I am suspending the performance of my functions and duties in order to free myself to defend myself against this fabricated case." Paleostinian law requires any minister charged by the attorney general to cease official functions until the case is resolved.
It was unclear when the charges against Abu Libdeh -- which include corruption, fraud and manipulating the money market -- might be heard.
They come as Paleostinian president the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas ... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial... tries to agree the formation of a new government of independents with rival movement Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, to guide the Paleostinians to elections by May 2012.
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Abu Libdeh: I quit so I can devote 100% of my time to finding the real crook!
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Despite the anti-Israeli rhetoric, Iran's nuclear program is about holding the Gulf littoral states to ransom and taking over the Shiia Arab areas, which is where almost all the oil is.
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Regional war would still be a better outcome than Iran with Nuclear capability. Once they have nukes, you can bet they will enslave Israel or wipe them from the map. Then it will go from regional to global nuclear war. The Iranian leadership are a cancer on this world and we need to understand that killing cancer is painful but necessary, otherwise the cancer wins.
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There's a lot of war in Afghanistan. semi-civil war/WOT in Pakistan, something going BOOM in Iran, Iranian backed terrorists bombing and shooting in Iraq, a civil war in Syria, and shooting and boomings going on in Lebanon. So, how do you lead to something that already is on going? Now an adjustment of intensity is something else.
Either he is being deliberately treasonous, leaking sensitive information to the media; or he is doing so as a favor to the government, to get the word out that would be problematic done officially, yet sending a message to Iran and others; or he is putting out disinformation for nebulous purposes.
Russia and China are backers because Iran and Pakistan are counterbalances to both Western influence and other nations within Iran and Pakistan's geographical areas.
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He probably just wants to say outloud what everyone sort of knows so that those begging Israel to do something can't claim anger and surprise later.
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Let's see,...Troop positions in IRQ, PAK, AFG, LIB and SML. Rearming NATO with fresh meat after the Joint LIB exercise. New rockets to ISL and TRK. Carrier fleet(s) in MED and IO. Soviets moving, and a new election coming up.
Practiced logistics across the board. Yeah, it's about time.
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TOPIX > IRAN SPOOKED BY US, ISRAELI COVERT OPS.
* SAME > IRAN NAVAL VESSELS ARMED WID "QADER" CRUISE MISSLES, i.e. the most potent + capable in Iran's inventory.
* SAME > ARMED IRANIAN SHIP [MV Assa] WORRIES INDIA.
ME > What's interesting for me is that I've had personal Dreams/Visions of this ship.
ET TU, MOUD - FIRST US INTEL-PYWAR, THEN THE RUSSIANS, NOW THE IRANIANS???
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VARIOUS BLOGGERS = In wake of Pakistan [Russia?] closing down US-NATO land-based Supply Routes into Afghanistan, the so-called "IRAN ROUTE" IS CLEARLY THE NEXT MOST OBVIOUS/EXPEDITIOUS OPTION FOR THE US-NATO. A viable alternate route would be from the "TURKEY ROUTE" vee Turkey + ex-Soviet SSRS [Armenia + -Stans] in Central Asia, BUT IS LONGER + LIKELY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE MORE DIRECT "RUSSIA ROUTE". "AFGHAN AIRLIFT", land or sea-based, would not only be cost-prohibitive but effectively moot iff Pakistan fails to allow US cargo planes to use its airspace to fly inside Pak along the PAK-IRAN border. ITS A GIVEN THAT IRAN WON'T.
IIUC, IOW PAKISTAN'S VIEW > THE US-NATO EITHER CONCEDE + FORMALLY APOLOGIZE, ETC. TO PAKISTAN'S SATISFACTION; OR ELSE THE AFGHAN SITUATION FOR US-NATO STEADILY DETERIORATES + DESTABILIZES IN FAVOR OF THE MILTERRS DUE TO LACK OF RELIABLE SUPPLY/LOGISTICS, I.E. ROTATION + REPLACEMENT, BE IT MILITARY ANDOR CIVILIAN.
IOW, TO PROTECT + SAVE AFGHANISTAN FROM MILTERR TAKEOVER, THE US-NATO MUST INVADE IRAN???
The threat to Indonesia from terrorism remains high, with police and government bodies deemed to have transgressed against Islamic teaching now the main targets, an expert warned on Tuesday.
Sidney Jones, a senior adviser with the Brussels-based International Crisis Group, said it would be "difficult to reduce the level of radicalism and terrorism in Indonesia."
She said, "The numbers [of victims of terrorism] have indeed fallen, but the number of [terrorist] groups continues to rise," she said at a public discussion on the links between terrorism, politics and Islam in Aceh.
Jones said the evidence that terror cells were flourishing did not point to failure by the police or government, but rather demonstrated the strength of the radical ideology behind those groups.
She said, "Fortunately their capacity is still low. For instance, in recent acts of terrorism, the only fatalities have been the suicide bombers. Nevertheless, over time they will become more effective."
She also said that their targets were also changing. In the past Western citizens and interests were the usual target for terrorists, this had now switched to police stations and government offices in areas where the authorities were not considered to be supportive of Islamic doctrine.
Jones said, "Their number one enemy is the police and thaghut [infidel] government officials. Any public official who doesnt back Shariah law is seen as an infidel, while their motivation for attacking the police is out of revenge for their colleagues who have been killed or arrested by police."
Jones continued, "Theres now a sort of changing of tactics, where terrorists realize that the bigger their organization, the easier it is for the authorities to detect. So theyre going with small cells. And theres no need for any coordination between these cells because theyre all working for the same aims and vision."
She added, "People who used to take part in rallies against the Ahmadiyah minority sect have now gone on to become members of these cells."
[An Nahar] A U.N. expert tasked with investigating alleged human rights ...which often intentionally defined so widely as to be meaningless... abuses in Iran will talk to Iranian activists in La Belle France, Germany and Belgium this week after a request to visit the country itself was refused.
United Nations ...what started out as a a diplomatic initiative, now trying to edge its way into legislative, judicial, and executive areas... Special Rapporteur Ahmed Shaheed will meet Iranians living in the three countries during a fact-finding mission from November 30 to December 8.
"A visit to the Islamic Theocratic Republic of Iran would have allowed me to gain better understanding of the situation," Shaheed said in a statement.
"However I will now study a wide range of human rights issues by meeting activists within the Iranian diaspora, alleged victims of human rights violations, intergovernmental and civil society organizations," he said.
The former Maldives foreign minister, appointed Special Rapporteur in June, will report back to the Human Rights Council in March next year.
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Report that "miscreants and malefactors" are abusing the mullahocracy's right to oppress the Iranian people in 3 - 2 - 1...
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[BBC] Lebanese President Michel Suleiman ...before assuming office as President, he held the position of commander of the Leb Armed Forces. That was after the previous commander, the loathesome Emile Lahoud, took office as president in November of 1998. Likely the next president of Leb will be whoever's commander of the armed forces, too... has condemned a rocket attack launched from Leb towards Israel. "Tut tut!" he said. "And tut!"
Four rockets fired from southern Leb landed in northern Israel early on Tuesday, Israeli media reported.
Mr Suleiman said in a statement that the attacks were "a violation of the stability of the south [of Leb]".
There were no casualties reported from the strikes, the first across the border since 2009, or from return fire by the Israeli army.
Two buildings in northern Israel were damaged by the rockets, which fell in the Western Galilee region.
The attack was "not conducive to the cause of solidarity with the Paleostinian people", Mr Suleiman said.
He also called the attack "a breach of UN Resolution 1701, Lebanese laws and Leb's obligations to the international community".
Resolution 1701 ended the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbullies guerrillas based in Leb which left 1,200 Lebanese and 160 Israelis dead.
An obscure Islamist group called the Abdullah Azzam Brigades said it had carried out the attack.
The Lebanese army said it had deployed extra patrols around the village of Rmeish, just 2km (one mile) from the border, and had found a rocket launcher there, Rooters news agency reports.
The United Nations ...what started out as a a diplomatic initiative, now trying to edge its way into legislative, judicial, and executive areas... peacekeeping force in Leb, Unifil, said it was looking into the incident.
"It is imperative to identify and apprehend the perpetrators of this attack," said Unifil Force Commander Major-General Alberto Asarta Cuevas in a statement.
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Distinguished Canadian diplomat Robert Fowler had been sent to Niger in 2008 as a special UN envoy when he and fellow diplomat Louis Guay were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda and held captive for 130 days.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
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Qadaffy's death triggered widespread global condemnation and forced Libya's new rulers to launch an investigation into the circumstances of his killing.
In the days after Seif's capture, media reports suggested that Zintan's military council was refusing to hand him over to NTC officials unless the commander of the unit that captured him was named Libya's defence minister. Last week, the commander, Osama Juili, was given the defence minister's post.
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[Daily Nation (Kenya)] Morocco's King Mohammed VI on Tuesday named the head of the Islamist party that won last week's election as prime minister to lead talks on the formation of a coalition government, the palace said.
CAIRO -- People waited in lines that ran hundreds of yards outside polling stations surrounded by police and soldiers in what many Egyptians regarded as the first free elections in decades. Men and women were in separate lines so long authorities extended voting by two hours. But overall the voting was smooth, election monitors said.
[Tripoli Post] Norwegians have been shocked rather than surprised by the news, Tuesday, that Psychiatrists assessing self-confessed Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik have concluded that he is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, and was in a psychotic state both during and after the June 22 twin attacks that led to the deaths of 77 people and injured 151.
[Dawn] A majority of Americans do not see Pakistain as a friend to the United States, says an opinion survey released on Monday.
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[Dawn] Awami National Party central chief Asfandyar Wali Khan has said that no one can wipe out Pakhtuns from their soil as they know how to defend their land.
[Al Ahram] Paleostinian economy minister Hassan Abu Libdeh said on Tuesday he will 'suspend' his official work to fight charges of fraud levelled against him last week.
A U.N. expert tasked with investigating alleged 
