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Afghanistan
Army Researchers: Why the Kandahar Offensive Could Backfire
The southern Afghan province of Kandahar trusts the Taliban more than the government. And that's according to a survey commissioned by the U.S. Army.
Posted by: ed || 04/23/2010 00:04 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6474 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Britain
Jewish group 'shocked' by UK ban of travel ad
B'nai B'rith International says it is outraged at a United Kingdom advertising board decision to ban an Israeli government tourism ad promoting Israel and calls on the Advertising Standards Authority, an independent government body, to reverse its own decision.

"Displaying a shocking lack of judgment, the British Advertising Standards Authority deemed the print ads misleading because the site they promote, the Western Wall, also known as the Kotel, is in the eastern part of Jerusalem, which the advertising board said was actually 'occupied' and not part of Israel," the Jewish group said.

According to B'nai B'rith, "The Western Wall is the holiest site in Judaism. To suggest it is not part of Israel is as wrong-headed as it is dangerous to the well-being of the Jewish state. No peace agreement will ever take this area from Israel. But the ban could lead some to believe this cornerstone of Judaism and Jewish history is in dispute and could in turn prejudice future negotiations."

"This is one of the most egregious interpretations of Israel's borders that I've seen in a long time," says B'nai B'rith International President Dennis W. Glick. "Jerusalem is mentioned hundreds of times in the bible. For the British Advertising Standards Authority to suggest the area is not part of Israel is an exceptional misuse of office. No peace plan would ever ask Israel to hand over the Wall. It dismisses the symbolic and historic value to the Jewish people and the Jewish state."

"The advertising board is trampling on reality," says B'nai B'rith International Executive Vice President Daniel S. Mariaschin. "No peace agreement would ever exist that would remove the Western Wall from Israeli control. This decision will only serve to further delegitimize Israel."
Yes, one expects that was the intent.
Posted by: lotp || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION ISRAEL NN> PA ARABS TO ISRAEL: WE'LL TAKE YOUR STATE PLEASE!PA Muslims are increasingly rejecting the concept of a 2-State solution in favor a "One State, Two Peoples" BINATIONAL STATE SOLUTION WHERE JEWS + MUSLIMS JOINTLY RULE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/23/2010 1:09 Comments || Top||

#2  JM, Why can't the West Bank and Gaza Salamists just go ahead and declare themselves a state? They could then go back to decapitating each other and no one would complain.
Posted by: Ralphs son Johnnie || 04/23/2010 4:35 Comments || Top||

#3  The advertising board is trampling on reality

Isn't it a definition of EU & Transnational progressivism?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/23/2010 6:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Nah, England doesn't have a Muslim problem. What would make you think that?
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 9:49 Comments || Top||

#5  I recall that Jordan's King Hussein drove the PLO out of Jordon in 1970 because they were a threat to Jordon. As a group they are troublemakers not peacemakers. What Ralphs son Johnnie said.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/23/2010 10:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Brig. Zia Ul Haq, later Pakistani Army Chief and President/Dictator of Pakistan led the Jordanian 2nd division during its anti-PLO operations.
Posted by: john frum || 04/23/2010 16:54 Comments || Top||


Dissident threat level increases in No. Ireland
The threat from dissident republicans in Northern Ireland is higher than at any time since the Omagh bomb almost 12 years ago, according to police.

Senior police officers believe rival factions in the Real IRA and Continuity IRA have increased co-operation and stepped up recruitment. There is concern that they may try to disrupt the election campaign.

Security sources have told the BBC the dissident situation has "deteriorated significantly".

The threat posed by dissidents has been officially classified as "severe" for the past 14 months. The assessment was increased from "substantial" last February.

This means the security service MI5, which is responsible for gathering intelligence believes an attack is highly likely.
Posted by: lotp || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6466 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IRISH CHOICE > BRITAIN, versus EURABIA???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/23/2010 1:03 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Cubans train sharp shooters and snipers in the Venezuelan army
What we all knew but did not dare discuss much was finally stated clearly by someone who knows about that. Antonio Rivero retired from the army a few days ago. He was a general and he was in charge of the Civil Defense system of Venezuela, the one that does rescue operations and the like. His role was not too stellar but can be excused in part as chavismo has no patience for such trivial matters as the Avila burning of last months illustrated to all. He certainly never got the funds he needed to perform his job as it should be. He was at least one of those few chavista public servants that one could listen to without much wincing. Well, today in a press conference he let us know that Cubans are training sharp shooters in the Venezuelan army and that when there is a conflict, Cuban military personnel are given priority.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 04/23/2010 09:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6490 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Have : Hawaii : Freeport : Rescind : Sales Tax : Medicines : Don't Have : Sales Taxes : Ever : Longtime : Coming !! Now : Hawaii : Food & All : Retail Items : Cars , Books , Everything : Else !Lobby : For It ! Government Least Governs : BEST !! Have : EL GORDO : SUPER NATIONAL LOTTO : REPLACE : NEVER : PAY INCOME : EVER !! PROPERTY : INHERITANCE : MEDICAL : TOO! EDUCATION : ALL : LOTTO : LOCALLY AND : NATIONAL : ONBOARD : SHIP GAMBLING : HELPS !!
Posted by: burnt avery on karin reward money worcim || 04/23/2010 13:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Have : Hawaii : Freeport : Rescind : Sales Tax : Medicines : Don't Have : Sales Taxes : Ever : Longtime : Coming !! Now : Hawaii : Food & All : Retail Items : Cars , Books , Everything : Else !Lobby : For It ! Government Least Governs : BEST !! Have : EL GORDO : SUPER NATIONAL LOTTO : REPLACE : NEVER : PAY INCOME : EVER !! PROPERTY : INHERITANCE : MEDICAL : TOO! EDUCATION : ALL : LOTTO : LOCALLY AND : NATIONAL : ONBOARD : SHIP GAMBLING : HELPS !!
Posted by: burnt avery on karin reward money worcim || 04/23/2010 13:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Whoa, now dats a COMBO > COMMIE SNIPERS + ISLAMIST CHAPLAINS-SPIRITUAL LEADERS + IN A CATHOLIC ARMY???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/23/2010 20:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Chavez is beginning to believe his own bull$hit. Always a dangerous thing to do. I'd call him a yapping little lap dog but I happen to like and have respect for dogs. Maybe he is more akin to a virus that plagues the world.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/23/2010 21:39 Comments || Top||


Chávez: I am not meddling in Colombian elections
"I am not a crook!"
President Hugo Chávez denied once again that he is interfering in the Colombian election process as the former Defense Minister and presidential candidate, Juan Manuel Santos, has complained. "I have nothing to do with it," Chávez said in Bolivia.

"I made some remarks and now he says that I want to get involved in Colombian elections. No, I just expressed my view about some events occurred in the hemisphere," Chávez said.

The Venezuelan President recalled that Santos was the man who ordered the bombing of Ecuadorian territory under the pretext of searching a leader of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). The Venezuelan President recalled that Santos has said he would order a similar incursion in Venezuela and in any other country with the purpose of provoking a war that only would be in the interest of the United States.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Fake Dollars Flood N.Korea-China Border Area
Counterfeit US$100 notes printed in North Korea are widely circulated in the North Korea-China border area, Radio Free Asia reported Thursday. The U.S. Treasury Department earlier announced a plan to print newly designed $100 notes with more anti-counterfeit solutions.

The so-called "supernotes" have been spotted in large quantity in border towns such as Sinuiju in North Pyongan Province. Amid rumors in mid-January that the U.S. will print new $100 bills, a department charged with operations against the South in the North Korean Workers' Party and the Army's Reconnaissance Bureau apparently released their stockpiles of the fakes to get rid of inventory, RFA quoted North Korean sources as saying.

A source told RFA that Kim Yong-chol, the director of the Reconnaissance Bureau, ordered the release of the fakes. The source said it appears that the bureau enjoys the trust of North Korean Kim Jong-il's son and heir apparent Jong-un and may have been aiming to raise a "loyalty fund."

Kim Yong-chol has also recently been fingered as the mastermind behind a recent assassination plot against Hwang Jang-yop, a former secretary of the Workers' Party Central Committee who defected to the South in 1997, as well as behind the sinking of the South Korean Navy corvette Cheonan on March 26.

The North Korean regime has spread misinformation that the fake dollars are distributed by Chinese tourists, RFA added.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6482 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dumping the old notes before the new come out.
Posted by: mojo || 04/23/2010 2:08 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll bet $100 that the Nork government is telling their people that they won't be accepted as currency in a little while, and is vacuuming them up for pennies on the dollar for use later.
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 2:19 Comments || Top||

#3  I hate amateurs.
Posted by: Ben Bernanke || 04/23/2010 6:16 Comments || Top||

#4  #1 Dumping the old notes before the new come out. Mojo, just like the annual changing of MPC during the Viet Nam conflict.
Posted by: Flapper Scourge of the Algonquins4926 || 04/23/2010 11:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Wish they'd "dump" some at my house.
Posted by: Snalet Poodle4576 || 04/23/2010 13:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Flapper: Yup. You could make quite a killing exchanging scrip.
Posted by: mojo || 04/23/2010 13:51 Comments || Top||


U.S. at Work on Strangling Kimmie's Cash Flow
Why not just strangle Kimmie?
The U.S. envoy charged with UN sanctions, Philip Goldberg, is still trying to block North Korean leader Kim Jong-il's cash flow, even as Washington has agreed to talks with Pyongyang aimed at persuading it to return to nuclear negotiations.

North Korea invited U.S. North Korea envoy Stephen Bosworth on Aug. 4, when former U.S. president Bill Clinton was in Pyongyang to win the release of two American journalists. The same day, Goldberg was on his way to Moscow, where he met Russian Vice Foreign Minister Alexei Borodavkin and reportedly asked Russia to crack down on a mafia gang based on a tip-off that it had been involved in the laundering slush funds for Kim Jong-il.

South Korean and U.S. intelligence authorities believe that North Korea recently earned a lot of foreign currency by smuggling ivory from Africa and distributing fake Viagra as well as selling drugs and circulating counterfeit dollars.

The North allegedly laundered money or operated secret bank accounts with the help of the Russian gangsters after it became practically impossible for the North to carry out normal transactions using the real names of top officials or agencies. Russia then passed an advisory circular which the U.S. had sent around Russian banks.

According to the source, North Korea expanded arms exports even after UN Security Council Resolution 1874 took effect in the wake of its second nuclear test on May 25. "North Korea has developed new markets in Africa and Latin America, in addition to expanding exports to its existing markets in Southeast Asia and the Middle East," the source said. "It seems the North is mainly exporting small vessels such as Hovercraft and patrol boats and Air Force equipment including radar and GPS to Africa and Latin America."

Goldberg then visited China in late October to persuade his hosts to implement sanctions against the North. He pledged to concentrate on blocking any money flow related to weapons of mass destruction. There are fears that the sanctions lost their bite when China in early October promised the North a massive aid package, but some experts disagree.

Prof. Cho Young-ki of Korea University said, "The U.S.-led financial sanctions will deal a blow especially to Kim Jong-il's slush funds and the North's munitions economy. Unlike in 2005 when it sanctioned Banco Delta Asia, the U.S. now seems to have found a way to inflict pain on the North while not allowing it to openly resist."

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton apparently believes Golberg's efforts have been successful, saying Monday that North Korea now wants dialogue because nations of the six-party talks are taking concerted action in implementing sanctions against the North.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thai authorities just intercepted a large shipment of ivory in containers marked 'computer equipment'. The Paleos have been flush with fake Viagra and Tramadol, too, but the Islamists are cleaning house. And the Russian Mafia distributes the fake Supernotes? How do you know which funds WMD's or goes to Kimmie's personal slush account? And who do you suppose the South and Central American markets are? Looks like we need Spiderman to handle this web.
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 || 04/23/2010 8:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Why not just strangle Kimmie?

Because our CIA frankly sucks, They're afraid of Obama's wrath and incompetence, so instead of doing their job they're covering their ass and hiding in fear.

What we really need is a president that will unleash them, an cover their backs.

But what we have is a President who leashes them and covers his own ass.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/23/2010 9:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Thaiauthorities just intercepted a large shipment of ivory in containers marked 'computer equipment'.

Ivory? How odd. Now if it had been labelled 'keyboards'... ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/23/2010 13:57 Comments || Top||

#4  If we had a really DECENT space program, we could lasso a comet, and have it smash into Pyongyang. That would not only take care of papa, but grandpa's statue and little kimmie-junior wannabe. It would probably also end the Korean war, once and for all. Might make some noise and cause some street lights to malfunction in Seoul, but you just have to take the good with the bad, I guess.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/23/2010 22:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Japan might not like the idea that much tho...

I would rather have him become a victim of one if his own manfunctioning nukes.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/23/2010 22:56 Comments || Top||


Europe
Driver wearing Islamic face veil fined in France
A woman driver wearing an Islamic face veil has been fined by French police for not having a clear field of vision. The fine was small, but it garnered big attention Friday and may illustrate what's to come as the president pushes to outlaw the veils nationwide.

Traffic police in the western city of Nantes fined the 31-year-old woman 22 euros ($29) in early April, her lawyer said. The fine was based on a rule that says drivers should have freedom of movement and a sufficient field of vision, lawyer Jean-Michel Pollono said. Pollono said Friday that he is protesting the decision, saying a veil is no different from a motorcycle helmet in terms of hindrance to vision.

Sarkozy raised the stakes Wednesday in France's drive to abolish the all-encompassing veil, ordering a draft law banning them in all public places. Sarkozy, who says the veils oppress women, decided to defy France's highest administrative body, which says such a full ban risks being declared unconstitutional.

The woman detained for driving in a veil said on i-Tele television, "my field of vision was sufficient." She raised the back of her veil over her head and covered her eyes totally, and added, "Now, it is not."

She is French by nationality, and her lawyer says she has driven in France with her face veiled for the past nine years and never been stopped until now, after months of recent parliamentary discussion and government talk about possibly banning the veils. When she was stopped, the traffic police asked her to raise her veil to confirm her identity, which she complied, Pollono said.

"A French citizen cannot be fined based on the way he or she dresses," Pollono said. "If the veil is forbidden behind the wheel, then nuns should not be able to drive, and full helmets for motorcyclists should be banned, because you can't see on the sides, and even some police units who drive with masks should be fined."

Sarkozy's move angered Muslims in the Arab world and worried Muslims in France, who fear they are being stigmatized because of a very small minority of women in France who cover their faces with niqabs or burqas. A leading French conservative lawmaker who has been at the forefront of the push against the veils, Jean-Francois Cope, has been given police protection, officials said Friday.

Cope has had a security officer accompanying him since January, said two officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. In January, Cope, head of the governing conservative party UMP in the lower house of parliament, submitted a proposed bill on banning the veil. The officials would not comment on a report in the French daily Le Parisien that Cope had received threats.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/23/2010 08:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6474 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I am so sick of the stinkin muzzies pushing the envelope everywhere in the world.
I am proud of Sark and hope he stands his ground.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 04/23/2010 9:45 Comments || Top||

#2  a veil is no different from a motorcycle helmet in terms of hindrance to vision.

A veil is cloth and moves in response to motion of the head, drafts from a window etc. A veil can easily shift while driving and obscure vision either in part or in full. A motorcycle helmet is a static , hard material that does not shift when being worn. There is no parallel. It's an apples and oranges thing, but muslims don't seem to understand that. They may be right about the nuns tho'.
Posted by: Swanimote || 04/23/2010 11:52 Comments || Top||

#3  The woman detained for driving in a veil said on i-Tele television, "my field of vision was sufficient." She raised the back of her veil over her head and covered her eyes totally, and added, "Now, it is not."

Apparently this jackass has never drove with a window down.

I love that line, French by nationality.

Its disgusting really, horse blinders on a human.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 04/23/2010 12:16 Comments || Top||


Dutch court acquits Arab group over Holocost denial cartoon
A Dutch court has acquitted an Arab cultural group of hate crime for publishing a cartoon on its website questioning the Holocaust.

The Dutch arm of the Arab European League said it had wanted to highlight what it said was double standards. It published the cartoon last year after a decision by Dutch prosecutors not to put MP Geert Wilders on trial for distributing cartoons of Muhammad.

The court in Utrecht said the group itself was not denying the Holocaust. It said the league had published the cartoon with a text explaining its purpose.

"Freedom of speech need not come second in this case to the right of others to be free from discrimination," the court statement said.

"The right of the AEL to make such a statement must be guaranteed, given the specific context and intention of the case."
Outside of fighting words, people have a right to say stupid stuff. The quickest way for someone to be labeled a goof, a moron and a hater is for that person to deny the Holocaust. If someone wants that sort of attention, they're welcome to it.
Posted by: lotp || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great ... One good turn deserves another.

Posted by: Glomock Tojo6610 || 04/23/2010 11:38 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Revolution Muslim website hacked in retaliation for targeting South Park creators
The Muslim website, Revolution Muslim based in New York City, has been hacked in retaliation for the fact that the website targeted South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone over of two recent episodes that satirized the Prophet Muhammad. Currently, Revolution Muslim's website is down.

The hack was first noticed Wednesday night and lasted for a brief period of time. According to Gawer.com, the hackers managed to redirect Revolution Muslim's website to another website called Revolution Islam. When a visitor went to Revolution Muslim's website they were redirected to images of Prophet Muhammad with a bomb on his head and an older Muslim man kissing a young boy passionately.
Posted by: ed || 04/23/2010 16:50 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heh..heh..heh

All your bases are belong to us.....
Posted by: Warthog || 04/23/2010 18:03 Comments || Top||

#2  That's funnier than South Park.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/23/2010 18:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The real one's still down. You knew it was gonna happen.
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/23/2010 18:59 Comments || Top||

#4  As I said a day or so ago, god bless Matt and Trey.

They are the John Miltons of the 21st century.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 04/23/2010 20:11 Comments || Top||


US indicts 11 suspected pirates in Norfolk
NORFOLK, Va. – Eleven suspected pirates were indicted Friday on U.S charges of piracy and other counts related to attacks on two U.S. naval vessels off the coast of Africa. The indictment was unsealed an hour after the suspects were led into the federal courthouse in Norfolk under heavy security.

One of the accused pirates had a bandaged head, while another was carried into the court building. The 11 were scheduled for a court appearance Friday afternoon.
Slip on a bar of soap?
In addition to the piracy count, the charges include attacks to plunder a vessel, assault with a dangerous weapon, and use of a firearm during a crime of violence.

Five of the men were captured March 31, after the frigate USS Nicholas exchanged fire with a suspected pirate vessel west of the Seychelles, sinking a skiff and confiscating its mother ship. The other six were captured after they allegedly began shooting at the amphibious dock landing ship USS Ashland on April 10 about 380 miles off Djibouti, a small nation facing Yemen across the mouth of the Red Sea.

The 11 had been held on U.S. ships for weeks off Somalia's pirate-infested coast and nearby regions as officials worked to determine whether and where they could be prosecuted and prepare legal charges against them.

The indictment did not indicate the pirates' nationality.
Any guesses?
The Somali mission to the United Nations said it is attempting to sort out jurisdictional issues. "We prefer those kids to be tried in Somalia," said Omar Jamal, first secretary for the mission.
We prefer that they drown in the Indian Ocean. So we'll call this a compromise, okay, Omar?
The U.S. Attorney's office confirmed that all 11 suspects are from Somalia.
Hey! I was right!
The suspects were taken from the USS Nassau amphibious assault ship Thursday and flown to Virginia on a government plane in the custody of the Justice Department.

The transfer of the case to a U.S. court comes amid discussions about setting up an international court to prosecute piracy suspects, which some nations have been reluctant to do because of difficulties transporting suspects, fears they may claim asylum and thorny jurisdiction issues.
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/23/2010 14:32 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6485 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WTG Omar for stepping up, but no. How about you try all the pirates you capture and we take care of the ones we capture. Maybe set a president for capturing terrorists as well.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 04/23/2010 16:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Gibbet on the pier...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/23/2010 21:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Slash their Achilles tendons and toss 'em over the side about 500 miles from land. Sharks gotta eat too, you know. Hammerheads abound in that area...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/23/2010 22:45 Comments || Top||


Colleague Disputes Case Against Anthrax Suspect
Dr. Heine said he did not dispute that there was a genetic link between the spores in the letters and the anthrax in Dr. Ivins's flask — a link that led the F.B.I. to conclude that Dr. Ivins had grown the spores from a sample taken from the flask. But samples from the flask were widely shared, Dr. Heine said. Accusing Dr. Ivins of the attacks, he said, was like tracing a murder to the clerk at the sporting goods shop who sold the bullets.

“Whoever did this is still running around out there,' Dr. Heine said. “I truly believe that.'
The real concern. Because back then we all thought it was Al Qaeda... and as I recall a couple of Muslim men showed up at doctors' offices needing treatment for cutaneous anthrax infections.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 04/23/2010 12:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6485 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Paging Dr. Tsonas. Paging Dr. Gregory Tsonas to the white courtesy phone...
Posted by: Pstanley || 04/23/2010 20:46 Comments || Top||

#2  * SAME NYT > THE ROLE OF MAILMEN ON CASE OF ANTHRAX ATTACK [delivery of life-saving anti-biotics, vaccine, etc].

OH THE IRONY, AS SINCE AT PENN STATE THE LOCAL US MAIL SYS WAS USED TO DELIVER ANTHRAX-LADEN LETTERS ["test run"].

* ION ANTHRAX > ISRAELI VETERANS ARE SUING OVER FORCED OR NONCONSENUAL INJECTIONS OF ANTHRAX VACCINE [BIOPORT Company], to include allegations of unsafe or illegal mixture of different kinds of vaccines which were then covertly injected into the soldiers.

MSM-NET > PENNSYLVANIA is beom one of the largest centres of Radical Islamism in Amerika.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/23/2010 22:57 Comments || Top||


The murder of rancher Bob Krentz - Be advised, this is UNCONFIRMED reporting.
Forwarded to me by a friend who recently retired from border patrol.........
As you know, one of the local ranchers was murdered in Douglas two weeks ago. His funeral is tomorrow. I received three messages similar to the one below from different officers within the Rangers and law enforcement.

Yesterday afternoon I talked to another rancher near us who is a friend of ours and whose great grandfather started their ranch here in 1880. These are good people. He told me what really happened out at the Krentz ranch and what you won't read in the papers. The Border Patrol is afraid of starting a small war between civilians here and the drug cartels in Mexico.

Bob Krentz was checking his water like he does every evening and came upon an illegal who was lying on the ground telling him he was sick. Bob called the Border Patrol and asked for a medical helicopter evac. As he turned to go back to his ATV he was shot in the side. The round came from down and angled up so they know the shooter was on the ground. Bob's firearm was in the ATV so he had no chance. Wounded he called the Cochise County Sherriff and asked for help. Bleeding in the lungs he called his brother but the line was bad so he called his wife but again the line was bad.

Several ranchers heard the radio call and drove to his location. Bob was dead by this time. The ranchers tracked the shooter 8 miles back towards Mexico and cornered him in a brushy draw. This was all at night. The Sherriff and Border Patrol arrived and told them not to go down and engage the murderer. They went around to the back side and if you can believe it the assassin managed to get by a BP helicopter and a Sherriff's posse and back to Mexico. So much for professional help when you need it.

One week before the murder Bob and his brother Phil (who I shoot with) hauled a huge quantity of drugs off the ranch that they found in trucks. One week before that a rancher near Naco did the same thing. Two nights later gangs broke into his ranch house and beat him and his wife and told them that if they touched any drugs they found they would come back and kill them.

The ranchers here deal with cut fences and haul drug deliveries off their ranches all the time. What ranchers think is that the drug cartels beat the one rancher and shot Bob because they wanted to send a message. Bob always gave food and water to illegals and so they think they sent the assassin to pose as an illegal who was hungry and thirsty knowing it would catch Bob off guard.

What is going on down here is NOT being reported. You need to tell people how bad it is along the border. Texas is worse. Near El Paso it's in a state of war. 5000 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez last year and it's over 2000 so far this year. Gun sales down here are through the roof and I get emails from people wanting firearms training. Something has to be done but I don't hold out much hope. These gangs have groups in almost every city in the US.

This is serious business. The Barrio Azteca and their sub gangs are like Mexican Corporations and organized extremely well. If this doesn't get dealt with down here you guys will deal with it on your streets.

Bud
Again note that this is unconfirmed and an e-mail from a private person. AoS.
It's this kind of thing that has prompted so many of us to get our news from blogs rather than the mainstream media.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/23/2010 11:49 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6548 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The governor could change the entire equation by instituting a relatively low cost solution: a bounty.

It is simplicity itself. Offer citizens say, $50 a day and $20 a head to radio report in when they observe suspected illegals in the border area. The citizens are given half a dozen rotating radio frequencies that are monitored, and a five digit daily code identifier.

Then they go out into the desert and are assigned an observation point. When they call in, they use a simple format to describe what they see. And if the suspected illegals are detained, and shown to be illegal, then the observer gets credited an automatic amount to their account.

Even better, observers can work as a group, with some members providing support and others spotting, and they get paid as a group.

There would likely be some requirements, like observers having at least two people on an OP, that one or both be armed, and that they carry or have available to them suitable water, and be certified for desert survival.

But right now, with high unemployment, $50 a day and $20 a head sounds like very good money, especially if you get a high traffic area, but costs just a fraction of the amount a National Guardsman or a uniformed officer costs.

As needed, I could even imagine erecting some armored observation towers, somewhat like the military use in Iraq and Afghanistan, over ground that is more flat. They have a very good field of observation.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/23/2010 13:02 Comments || Top||

#2  the faulty assumption here moose is that the Govt wants to do anything about this. a solved problem doesn't bring in Fed dollars or require ongoing legislation that keeps the lobbyist gravy train rolling. how would the local publicity whores get on the TV if the problem went away?

no an actual solution is the last thing those guys want.
Posted by: abu do you love || 04/23/2010 13:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The Border Patrol is afraid of starting a small war between civilians here and the drug cartels in Mexico.

Maybe that should be allowed to happen. Declare open season on all varmints. Pay bounty. End of problem.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/23/2010 13:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Possibly supply TARP funds for ranchers to purchase Barrett 50 cals.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/23/2010 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  It's obvious that neither party wants to touch this toxic mess, for the following reasons:

a) the status quo offers significant benefits to both Tweedledum and Tweedledee: 'dum wants cheap labor to drive wages down, and 'dee wants a lock on the fast-growing and soon-to-be-dominant (in the SW) latino vote;

b) neither 'dum nor 'dee has any clue how to deal with the core problem, which is that we have an open border with a failing state;

c) even if a) and b) were not true, neither 'dum nor 'dee has the will to fix what's broken. Any real solution will be socially difficult, extremely expensive, and will consume significant bandwidth, both in terms of law enforcement resources and federal funds, at a time when neither 'dum nor 'dee wants distractions from the economic, HC and Afghan war fronts.

Thus are great nations brought low.
Posted by: lex || 04/23/2010 13:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Hm. How much for the actual head, Moose?
Posted by: Woozle Ebbunter3968 || 04/23/2010 14:03 Comments || Top||

#7  b) neither 'dum nor 'dee has any clue is interested in how to deal with the core problem, which is that we have an open border with a failing state;

Fixed it for you, lex dear. It can't be that they haven't a clue, because the answer is inherent in the statement of the problem. Closing the border would make dealing with the problems on our side relatively trivial. And really, something that could be handled at the state/local level if the feds would consent to get out of the way.

Anonymoose, your solution doesn't rely on a bad economy to work. Even in good times the locals would be happy to get a bit of a payment for doing something they'd mostly be happy to do anyway, if only they wouldn't get arrested for it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/23/2010 14:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Dum and Dee need to be defenestrated.
Posted by: OldSpook || 04/23/2010 14:50 Comments || Top||

#9  abu et. al: This is why I said governor, not government. Right now the AZ legislature is very feisty, and even in tight budget times would be more than happy to set up a system like this.

Since the Border Patrol will probably be ordered to go back to "catch and release", what the State would probably do is set up a Joe Arpaio style tent jail near the border, then hold them on trespassing charges, then boot them back into Mexico ourselves.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/23/2010 16:04 Comments || Top||

#10  AZ gov is announcing right now that she is signing the bill (SB10) and directing AZ peace officers to be trained to properly enforce it. Live video at foxnews.com .

The restaurant where I just ate lunch showed huge crowds protesting. But she's gonna sign anyway.

"We must acknowledge the truth," she says.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 04/23/2010 16:40 Comments || Top||

#11  That's SB1070.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 04/23/2010 16:44 Comments || Top||

#12  This explains why John McCain suddenly became anti-Illegal-Immigration, when all along he was for it. He knows this WILL cost him re-election if it gets out.
Posted by: Andy Angineling8252 || 04/23/2010 17:29 Comments || Top||

#13  Don't buy Barrett's, buy McMillan's.

TAC-50's; MUCH more accurate, reliable, and the new 'special' recoil-absorbing ones kick like .308's (albeit slightly 'heavy' .308's). Plus, they are local (Phoenix, AZ). Call Ryan McMillan, they are his babies.

And God knows I think very highly of Ronnie Barrett.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 04/23/2010 17:37 Comments || Top||

#14  Good information. We are talking a serious firearm and a sticker shock price ($6000-$7000 or so). Somehow I don't see TARP funds being provided by this administration. A good 0.308 might be sufficient for ranch protection. Still don't see TARP funds being made available. When you start talking long range rifles, one has trouble selling the weapon as being a self-defense weapon--unless of course you are being shot at with similar weapons.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/23/2010 18:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Rem 700 Sendero II in .300 RUM
Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/23/2010 21:19 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Mighty Pak Army holding thousands in indefinite detention
LAHORE: The Pakistani military is holding thousands of suspected militants in indefinite detention, arguing that the nation's dysfunctional civilian justice system cannot be trusted to prevent them from walking free, reported an American publication while citing US and Pakistani officials.

According to the Washington Post, the majority of the detainees the Pakistani officials and human rights advocates said have been held for nearly a year and have been allowed no contact with family members, lawyers or humanitarian groups.

Top US officials have raised concern about the detentions with Pakistani leaders, fearing that the issue could undermine American domestic and congressional support for the US-backed counterinsurgency campaign in Pakistan and jeopardise billions of dollars in US assistance.

Pakistani officials say that they are aware of the problem, but there is no clear solution: Pakistan has no applicable military justice system, and even civilian officials concede that their courts are not up to the task of handling such a large volume of complex terrorism cases.

The quandary plays directly into the Taliban's strategy. The group has gained a following in Pakistan by capitalising on the weakness of the civilian government, promising the sort of swift justice that is often absent from the slow-moving and overburdened courts.

"We don't have a system like Egypt, where you send a man to court and three days later, he's executed," said Malik Naveed Khan, the top police official in Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.
*snicker*
"The judges decide the punishment, and they have to look at the evidence." Pakistani officials say all the current detainees are suspected of crimes against the Pakistani state and would be dealt with domestically.

ISPR chief Maj Gen Athar Abbas said the military was "extremely concerned" that the detainees would be allowed to go free if they were turned over to the civilian government. More than 300 suspected Taliban who had been detained in the military's 2007 operation in the Swat valley were later released under a peace deal. Abbas said several returned to the Taliban, making the army's task harder when it again rolled into Swat last spring.

The exact number of prisoners is not known. US officials estimate the total at 2,500 -- a figure that roughly corresponds to Pakistani estimates -- although some outside analysts in Pakistan say the number is higher. US officials say they worry that the detentions would further inflame the Pakistani public at a time when the government needs popular support for its offensives. "They're treating the local population with a heavy hand, and they're alienating them," said an Obama administration official. "As a result, it's sort of a classic case going back to Vietnam: it [risks] actually creating more sympathy for the extremists."

US officials worry, too, that by holding thousands of people without trial, Pakistan risks running afoul of the Leahy Amendment, which requires recipients of US military assistance to abide by international human rights laws and standards. Malik Naveed said he expected the detainees to be tried in civilian courts, but he does not know when. "I don't see any other option," he said. "But it will take time."
It shouldn't surprise anyone that the Pak civilian judicial system, a joke when it isn't itself being assaulted by the ISI, the government and the Taliban, isn't up to the processing and judging of thousands of hard boyz. It's only mildly surprising that the Pak army is willing to hold thousands, but perhaps these boys didn't pay the right people in the ISI. But the Washington Post and similarly minded hand-wringers aren't the ones to complain: just how long have we been planning that terrorist trial in New York City, anyways?
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Suspects in 471 terror cases acquitted in Punjab
LAHORE: As many as 629 terrorism cases were decided by anti-terrorism courts in 2009, of which suspects in 471 cases were acquitted, sources in the Punjab Public Prosecution Department and Punjab Police told Daily Times on Thursday.

Taking stock of the situation, CJP Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry has nominated Supreme Court Justice Shakirullah Jan as an administrative judge for all anti-terrorism courts (ATC) and Lahore High Court Judge Ijaz Chaudhry to monitor ATCs and examine exonerations in Punjab.

On April 24, a meeting presided over by Justice Shakirullah Jan would be held at the Supreme Court Registry in Lahore to examine the overall performance of ATCs, acquittals in terrorism cases, pending cases and the standard of investigation and prosecution.

As a follow up, Punjab Public Prosecution Department officials and the inspector general of Punjab police would meet today (Friday) to examine the current status of terrorism cases registered between January 1, 2005, and February 15, 2010, and some other pending cases registered before this period, sources in the IGP office told Daily Times.

Punjab Prosecutor General Syed Zahid Hussain Bokhari told Daily Times that special attention was paid to terrorism cases, which could spike the ratio of convictions in these cases. Punjab Police DIG (Crimes) Ayub Qureshi said the chief justice was focussing on terrorism cases. He said the Punjab IG had directed all regional police officers, city police officers and district police officers to improve the standard of investigation in terrorism cases, include concrete and solid evidence in case files and arrest proclaimed offenders as soon as possible.
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90% of Benazir's murder suspects arrested: Zardari
LAHORE: President Asif Ali Zardari has said that “a special group' is investigating the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, and about “90 percent' of those accused have been arrested, while action continues against those who washed the crime scene at Liaquat Bagh, a private TV channel reported on Thursday.

Zardari said the decision to approach the UN for an investigation into the assassination of Benazir was not made by him: “the Senate, the National Assembly and the four provincial assemblies decided to approach the world body for an impartial probe'. The president said his government had empowered parliament.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What about the other 10%?
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Held as a reserve.
Posted by: mojo || 04/23/2010 10:40 Comments || Top||

#3  remember who's known as "Mr. Ten Percent"?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/23/2010 11:25 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Netanyahu defies Obama's demands over East Jerusalem
Mr Netanyahu is said to have written to Barack Obama over the weekend officially rejecting his demand to freeze settlement expansion in the city -- a move that takes relations between Israel and its superpower patron into uncharted territory.
Figured out that no foreign leader has yet paid for defying Bambi, has he ...
The Israeli prime minister's response came nearly a month after a tempestuous meeting at the White House in which he was instructed to make a series of confidence-building measures towards the Palestinian leadership.

Mr Netanyahu has equivocated as he tried to balance the demands of his coalition's right-wing, which urged him to make no compromises, against the intense pressure of the US president.

Although he offered to make some concessions, such as releasing a number of Palestinian prisoners, Mr Netanyahu held firm on the issue of East Jerusalem, which Israel captured and annexed after the Six-Day War of 1967.

Israeli officials, however, denied that their prime minister had made any formal reply to Mr Obama's demands.

"The idea that there was some formal response is just not true," one said.

Mr Netanyahu has made his feelings on East Jerusalem clear in recent days. Stopping construction in the city's Jewish settlements is "totally, totally a non-starter", he told the US television network ABC on Sunday.

Israeli officials have been at pains to insist that Mr Netanyahu's refusal to rein in settlement expansion is a response to calls for a construction freeze from the Palestinian leadership rather than defiance of Mr Obama.

But with US and Palestinian policies on East Jerusalem seemingly indivisible, the Israeli right yesterday interpreted Mr Netanyahu's position as their victory
Posted by: lotp || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6492 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The proper term is "rejects".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/23/2010 6:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Agreed, that's what the term should be. But given the arrogant assumption of control by this administration, perhaps 'denies' fits after all.
Posted by: lotp || 04/23/2010 19:48 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
U.S. Tries to Buy Time for Its Iran Strategy
Looks like Iran will have to get nuclear stuff from North Korea. Or Syria. Or Venezuela. Or Bolivia. Or Pakistan.
Not Syria. Israel took care of that a few years ago.
Iranian forces launched a big military exercise in the Persian Gulf Thursday, thereby underscoring a grim reality: The strategy for stopping Iran's nuclear program is turning into a race against time before options turn from mediocre to bad to worse.

The goal of American policy right now is to slow down the clock--that is, to stretch out the time Iran needs to become nuclear-arms capable. The hope is to buy time to give other kinds of pressure a better chance to work before military options move to the fore.

That's why the current foot-dragging in adopting new economic sanctions at the United Nations Security Council is so troublesome. In an ideal world, and in the Obama administration's original vision, a U.N. resolution imposing new economic penalties would have been passed two months ago.
In an ideal world Iran wouldn't be a problem.
So now, here's where things are headed: American officials say they hope a U.N. resolution will pass in the next few weeks. That would clear the way for step two, in which the U.S. and its European allies, with some help from Japan, would layer on additional sanctions of their own with more bite, clamping down on Iran's access to the international financial system and squeezing its Revolutionary Guards, the real power behind Iran's nuclear program.

Getting this economic squeeze in place is crucial. The hope is that when Iran's leaders see that economic pressure has moved from possibility to reality, they will return to negotiations over their nuclear program, which they contend is for producing energy, not weapons.
Keep hoping, Barack. Hoping for Change.
It's worth pausing here to note that having a credible military threat on the table is useful for both prongs of this strategy--getting biting sanctions, as well as getting Iran to take its predicament seriously. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while feuding with the Obama administration on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, is extremely useful on this front.
Credible? Barack, they're dissing you left and right and are getting away with it. They won't believe you until after they're dead.
Already, informed sources say, the U.S. has essentially said to the recalcitrant Chinese: "Look, you'd better cooperate on sanctions, because if we don't do something, Netanyahu is just crazy enough to attack Iran." And if there's a silver lining to the military exercises Iran just launched, it's that they suggest Tehran is taking the military threat seriously.

If these combined pressures compel Iran's leaders back into negotiations, the goal would be to revive the kind of nuclear-swap deal Iran agreed to, then backed away from, last fall. Under that agreement, Iran was to ship about half of the low-enriched uranium it has accumulated to Russia and France for reprocessing into fuel for a nuclear reactor in Tehran.

The beauty of that deal was that, by taking potential nuclear-weapons material out of Iran's hands and turning it into something else, the world would know with confidence that it had slowed down Iran's march toward nuclear-weapons capability by a year or so. That would, in the words of one senior Obama administration official, "shift the timetable to the right," extending the time available to find a longer-term solution.

That breather would be crucial on several fronts. First, the U.S. would buy more time to build a real regional security arrangement under which it would help strengthen the defenses of friendly Persian Gulf states and work out a plan for a joint response to Iranian provocations. More time also would allow the U.S. to move ahead in building a defense system to knock out Iranian missiles that could carry nuclear warheads.

It's possible that the combination of a regional defense plan and a real American missile-defense shield would signal to Iran that acquiring nuclear arms wouldn't give it the power to intimidate its neighbors that it might envision, and help convince Tehran that developing nuclear weapons isn't worth the economic pain the world can inflict.

And if that doesn't work, slowing down the nuclear program would at least create more time to determine whether opposition forces within Iran have any hope of threatening the regime.

There's at least some reason to hope new pressure might pull Iran back into negotiations. U.S. officials suspect that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, for all his bluster, actually wanted to do the nuclear-swap deal last fall, but was stopped by supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

And in recent days, Iranian officials have been floating an alternative to last fall's deal, indicating they want to talk to other nations about it, perhaps at a meeting on nonproliferation in New York next month.

Meanwhile, though, nuclear centrifuges in Iran continue to spin out enriched uranium. Iran's ultimate goal may well be to leave the outside world paralyzed in a state of suspended animation by demonstrating it has developed the ability and material to make nuclear arms, while stopping just short of making the weapons themselves.

Even that nebulous outcome would compel the world to ponder two far less appealing options. One would be that military strike.

The second would be to accept that Iran has become a nuclear-capable state, and adopt a strategy of containing it while using economic pressure--perhaps even an economic blockade--to force a reversal or to bring down the regime. That's essentially what the West did to the Soviet Union during the Cold War. It did, however, take 50 years.
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 04:34 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6473 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Time is infinite. You can never run out of time.

But there isn't enough time for Zero's Iran strategy to work, but plenty of time for his (overall) plan to suceed.
Posted by: Bobby || 04/23/2010 6:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Not Syria. Israel took care of that a few years ago.

I'm sure the Syrians didn't have all their eggs in one basket or all their nuke stuff in one place. Now all the stuff they didn't have laying around in the place that got wiped out is just a bunch of stuff that would make for a great yard sale.
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 9:45 Comments || Top||

#3  "That's essentially what the West did to the Soviet Union during the Cold War. It did, however, take 50 years."

In the case of Iran, we could do it in 50 days if we had the political will to do it.

Regime Change is the best and only solution I see to the Iran problem. ALL our efforts should be focused to causing this to happen.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 04/23/2010 9:50 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't think entrusting an attack and regime change in Iran to the Obama administration is a good idea. We should probably wait until a Republican is back in office. If Iran is able to maintain nuclear capability and withstand a botched US attack/invasion, well, that might be all she wrote for peace and prosperity for the next thirty years.
Posted by: yo adrian || 04/23/2010 11:02 Comments || Top||

#5  n the case of Iran, we could do it in 50 days if we had the political will to do it.

More like 50 minutes if we just spank them and leave. Bomb the government and the nuke sites. Leave the infrastructure intact so the civilians can keep running the show. We might volunteer to send in some experts to keep the power grid and stuff running if need be.

I'm sure the opposition movement isn't too far from being prepared to assume the role of government.
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 11:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Regime Change is the best and only solution I see to the Iran problem. ALL our efforts should be focused to causing this to happen.

This should be Bambis number one priority before Israel/Paleo peace talks!
Posted by: Paul2 || 04/23/2010 12:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Regime change (if done right) would make the peace talks so much easier.

Unless of course your on the other side....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/23/2010 13:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Regime change (if done right) would make the peace talks so much easier.

To which regime(s) are you referring?
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 16:19 Comments || Top||


U.S. Lists Companies Aiding Iran's Energy Projects
WASHINGTON — Over the past five years, 41 foreign companies have helped Iran develop its oil and gas sector, which accounts for more than half of the Iranian government's revenues, Congressional investigators reported Thursday. The Government Accountability Office said the companies provided expertise, equipment and financing and did construction work on oil and gas pipelines, enabling Iran to increase energy production and profits.

No American companies were listed in the report, but the China National Petroleum Corporation was reported to be financing an oil field in an agreement with the Iranian government estimated to be worth more than $2 billion. Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering of South Korea was reported to be building tanker ships for Iran under a $384 million contact.

The report did not determine whether the companies had violated the Iran Sanctions Act, devised to punish foreign companies that invested more than $20 million in a given year to develop Iran's oil and gas fields.

“Clearly, we need to take a tougher stance against companies tied to Iran's refined petroleum capacity,' said Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrat of New York, who has been pushing for hearings on companies that do business in Iran. “Companies whose profits fuel Iran's nuclear ambitions should not be allowed to do business with the U.S. or benefit from the U.S. economy — period,' she added.

The House and Senate have passed legislation aimed at strengthening sanctions on companies doing business with Iran, and are working to iron out differences in the bills.

The United States and its European allies are trying to win support for a tough new sanctions aimed at pressing Iran to rein in its nuclear program, but China and Brazil have resisted. Both countries have companies that work in Iran's energy sector, the report says.

Last month, The New York Times disclosed that over the past 10 years, the federal government gave more than $107 billion in contract payments, grants and other benefits to foreign and multinational American companies while they were doing business in Iran. That includes nearly $15 billion paid to companies that defied American sanctions law by making large investments that helped Iran develop its vast oil and gas reserves.

In the 14 years since the law was passed, the government has never enforced it, in part for fear of angering America's allies.

A number of companies have recently announced that they will end or curtail their operations in Iran. The French oil giant Total and the Italian oil company Eni are also said to be considering ending their operations in Iran. Both companies were named in the investigators' report, which was requested by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, and Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona.
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Israel won't strike Iran without US: Biden
WASHINGTON -- Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that Israel would not attack Iran without consulting the United States and that Jerusalem clearly saw sanctions as the next step to deal with Teheran's nuclear program.
What does Biden know?
A great deal that isn't so.
"Everyone from the Israeli prime minister straight through to the British prime minister to the president of Russia -- everyone agrees the next step we should take is the UN sanction route," Biden said on ABC's The View.

When asked whether Israel might take military action without consultation with the US, he replied, "They're not going to do that."

Biden also said he expected to see sanctions coming out of the UN in the next few weeks, estimating the timeline as "by the end of this month, beginning of next month."

Though China, one of the five members of the United Nations Security Council with veto power, has repeatedly pushed for lighter sanctions and expressed doubts about the wisdom of pursuing that path, Biden said that Beijing would support the UN effort.

"China will agree to sanctions," Biden told The View. "This is the first time the entire world is unified. Iran is out of bounds."

US President Barack Obama has previously given the end of spring as the time frame in which he expects to see UN sanctions approved.

Biden stressed, "We're going to continue to keep the pressure on Iran."
What pressure?
Posted by: Steve White || 04/23/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What does Biden know?

If I were the administration, I'd just have him read the papers. Secrets are safer that way.

But it also suggests that any injury to Israel could well be the US's fault.
Posted by: gorb || 04/23/2010 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  TOPIX > US: MIDDLE EAST STATUS QUO IS UNSUSTAINABLE; + GAZA EXTREMISTS URGE AL QAEDA TO TARGET YEMEN JEWS [Prev unknown group "ABU AMIR" claims that AQIY aka AQAP? plans to set up a base in the SINAI for MilTerr Training, Supply, + as STRIKE BASE FOR PREDATORY RAIDS INTO ISRAEL]???

* BHARAT RAKSHAK/TOPIX > BRITAIN SAYS US CONSIDERED INVASION OF MIDDLE EAST OIL FIELDS in 1973 [Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, + Abu Dhabi].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/23/2010 0:58 Comments || Top||

#3  WTF, we need to help the people, they are IRAN, phuque the ayayolayas, whatever, they are the srength, the real power, they percevere. the people of iran rock!
Posted by: 746 || 04/23/2010 5:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Or you'll be terribly offended?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/23/2010 5:56 Comments || Top||

#5 
Joe Biden and the ladies of The View? There's a real meeting of the minds for ya.
Posted by: Parabellum || 04/23/2010 9:02 Comments || Top||

#6  WTF, we need to help the people, they are IRAN, phuque the ayayolayas, whatever, they are the srength, the real power, they percevere. the people of iran rock!
Posted by: 746 2010-04-23 05:32


You are correct. The Iranian people are against the Iranian Government (see this link). Sanctions will only oppress the people. Not the Iranian government. But the leftist American Regime in power has very little qualms about things like that. The Mullah's and the Obama Regime are on the same page; Priority One For Them is Power.
Posted by: war on terror || 04/23/2010 10:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Iran is out of bounds.

Oh noes! What's next, a yellow card?
Posted by: xbalanke || 04/23/2010 10:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Under our laws and also our way of thinking, if I shield a Muderer I'm also guilty, we should treat the nation of Iran exactly the same way, either they clean ALL Terrorists out, or we eclare them guilty of ALL terrorist crimes and blow them off the face of the earth, enough is enough, make them clean house, or WE WILL.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/23/2010 11:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Israeli , Palestinian and Egyptian : Semitic People : Enjoin : Civil Rights : Recognition : Of 1946 : Time Magazine : Peace : On : Middle East : World : REJOICE !! ALLAH O AKBAR : SHALOM !!
Posted by: burnt avery on karin reward money worcim || 04/23/2010 12:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Formerly temporary daughter (now a university freshman after graduating a year early from high school, with honours -- yes, I'm very proud!) spent winter break with her father visiting cousins in Iran. Based on her reports, the educated people of Tehran were happily engaged in protests at every opportunity, but if it had moved beyond that neither ftd nor her father noticed any indication of it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/23/2010 13:13 Comments || Top||



When Ahmadinejad met Mugabe
President Robert Mugabe has welcomed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Zimbabwe, a meeting of two leaders united in fierce opposition to the West.

Mr Ahmadinejad, whose visit is expected to produce a raft of trade and co-operation agreements, is scheduled to open the country's main trade fair in the second city of Bulawayo on Friday.

But the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), the party that shares power with Mr Mugabe's ZANU-PF in a fragile unity government, said inviting Mr Ahmadinejad to open the trade fair was "a colossal political scandal".

"Inviting the Iranian strongman to an investment forum is like inviting a mosquito to cure malaria," the party said in a statement.

"Ahmadinejad's visit is not only an insult to the people of Zimbabwe, but an affront to democracy and to the oppressed people of Iran."

Both Mr Ahmadinejad and Mr Mugabe are known for their controversial policies and anti-Western rhetoric.

Later, Mr Ahmadinejad condemned the "satanic pressures" on Zimbabwe and his own country which he said were fighting to maintain their sovereignty.

"Iran and Zimbabwe are two countries that continue the effort to maintain their sovereignty and freedom," Ahmadinejad said at a dinner with Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe.

"Of course, our strength had provoked the hostility of expansionist countries," he said. "Here, I condemn all pressures, all satanic pressures, pressures on the government and people of Zimbabwe."

"We believe victory is ours and humiliation and defeat for our enemies."

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