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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Mother Killed for Body Parts Believed to Bring Wealth, Success in Africa
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Muti-murders" Muti means “medicine”. It is made from plants or animal organs, but the most powerful muti is made from human body parts, harvested while the person is still alive.

You want a real African shocker, google this one.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/08/2010 8:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Coward, you should have stayed and fought. Yellow belly thru and thru.


Or you're lying.
Posted by: Shipman || 05/08/2010 15:01 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Moroccan Islamist party calls for Elton John ban
[Al Arabiya Latest] Morocco's main Islamist opposition party has called for gay singer Elton John to be banned from performing at a festival in Rabat later this month, a party leader said Friday.

"We categorically reject the appearance of this singer because there is a risk of encouraging homosexuality in Morocco," the head of the Justice and Development Party (PJD) parliamentary group, Mustapha Ramid, told AFP.

"The problem is not with the singer himself but the image he has in society," another leading party member, Lahcen Daoudi, added.

"Moroccan society has a negative perception of this singer and we must take it into consideration."

The PJD on Thursday submitted a request to parliament to ban Elton John from performing in the Mawazine music festival to be staged in the Moroccan capital from May 21 to 29.

Other artists booked to appear include Julio Iglesias, B.B. King and Carlos Santana.

Protests also greeted Elton John's performance last month at an open air concert at the ancient Mayan pyramids of Chichen Itza in southeastern Mexico.

The 90-minute concert went ahead amidst the majestic pyramids despite indigenous leaders' complaints and an accident Thursday that saw the stage collapse, injuring three workers.

Local Mayan leaders complained the concert was irreverent and out of place, and said the collapse of the stage the day before, injuring three workers, was caused by spirits upset because their gods' permission for the concert was lacking.

During his stay in Mexico John was protected by a police and military operation with hundreds of officers who also set up roadblocks at the entrances to the archeological site.

In February John stirred controversy in a U.S. magazine interview when he claimed that Jesus Christ was gay.

Posted by: Fred || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Makes sense, He's Homosexual and very successful
(Big Muslim Cheer) but he's NOT a Muslim (Huge BOO from the "Faithful) how dare a Non Muslim succeed without our permission and influence?
so we have to make sure our Followers Don't realise that islam's a huge scam.

BAN THE UNBELIEVER He's a bad role model. (Wildly successful and Not muslim)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 05/08/2010 7:14 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd ban him for the tacky glasses alone.

Well, maybe not ban him, but at least ridicule him mercilessly.
Posted by: lotp || 05/08/2010 8:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Even a stopped clock ir right twice a day.
Posted by: Formerly Dan || 05/08/2010 12:55 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Outlaw killed by rivals
[Bangla Daily Star] An activist of outlawed Purba Banglar Communist Party (PBCP) Red Flag faction was killed by its rival group at Ataikula in Pabna Thursday night.

He was identified as Mithu Pramanik, 34, son of Palan Pramanik of Alokdiar village in Santhia upazila.

Officer in Charge of Ataikula Police Station Sirajul Islam Chowdhuri said a group of cadres of outlawed PBCP's Janajudhha faction hurled bombs at Mithu Thursday night when he was on the way to Binnabari field of Vulbaria union in Ataikula at 7:00pm. He died on the spot.

On information, police rushed to the spot the same night and sent the body to Pabna General Hospital morgue for autopsy on Friday.

Mithu was accused in several cases.

Pabna Superintendent of Police Jamil Ahmed said the victim was an associate of Abdur Rashid, chief of Red Flag faction.

The internal feud is the reason behind the incident, the SP said.
Posted by: Fred || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
REFILE-US to announce Mexico trucking plan soon-LaHood


Posted by: Uncle Phester || 05/08/2010 09:57 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  after the Pelosi article I mis-read this as "US to announce Mexico DRUG trucking plan soon-LaHood.

Likely closer to the truth...
Posted by: 3dc || 05/08/2010 14:21 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Medvedev denounces Stalin for 'mass crimes against the Russian people'
President Medvedev has issued a stinging repudiation of the Soviet Union, condemning it as a totalitarian state that had deprived Russians of their basic rights.

He also condemned Joseph Stalin's record of repression before Victory Day celebrations on Sunday marking the 65th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany, an event that many elderly Russians attribute to the leadership of the Soviet dictator.

The President's outspoken verdict on Russia's Soviet legacy contrasted sharply with that of his predecessor Vladimir Putin, who called the collapse of the Communist state “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'. Mr Putin, the Prime Minister, has also been much more equivocal about Stalin.

Mr Medvedev said that Stalin had committed unforgivable crimes regardless of any progress made by the Soviet Union under his rule. In an interview with Izvestia newspaper that was also broadcast on state television, he rejected arguments that Stalin was responsible for the victory over Hitler in what Russians call the Great Patriotic War.

“The Great Patriotic War was won by our people, not by Stalin or even the generals,' Mr Medvedev said. “Their role was undoubtedly very serious but, at the same time, the people won the war at the cost of great efforts and a huge number of lives.

“Stalin committed mass crimes against the people. And despite the fact that he worked a lot, despite the fact that under his leadership the country achieved successes, what was done to his own people cannot be forgiven.'

Mr Medvedev, whose grandfathers fought in the Red Army, said that it was “absolutely out of the question' to permit the revival of Stalin's personality cult by erecting street posters in his honour for Victory Day, as Moscow City Council officials had wanted.

He added: “It cannot be said that Stalinism has returned to our everyday life ... This will not happen.'

He promised to continue declassifying Soviet military archives so that Russians learnt the truth about the war, days after he ordered publication of documents showing that Stalin authorised the massacre of 22,000 Polish officers at Katyn in 1940. He called Katyn “a very dark page. And a dark page on which there was no truth'.

“We ourselves allowed history to be falsified. And the truth in the final analysis must be presented to our people.'

The interview, marking Mr Medvedev's second anniversary as President, included an unusually blunt assessment of the Soviet state in which he blamed its collapse on its own failings. He said: “If we speak honestly, the regime that was built in the Soviet Union ... cannot be called anything other than totalitarian. Unfortunately, this was a regime where elementary rights and freedoms were suppressed.'

The state had prevented normal economic and political development, something that was “accompanied by victims and all other things inherent to a dictatorship'. Mr Medvedev said that the Soviet Union “could have had a different fate' if it had been able to adapt to modern ideas, which might have allowed Russians to escape the hardships of the 1990s after its collapse.

The human rights activist Lev Ponomarev, an outspoken Kremlin critic, said that Mr Medvedev's rejection of the Soviet past was “a very strong declaration which has been awaited for a very long time'.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can't wait 'til we get to do the same with obama...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 05/08/2010 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Bad cop (Pooty), good cop (Medvedev) routine?
Posted by: twobyfour || 05/08/2010 10:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Or Pooh deciding he's a big bad bear after all.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/08/2010 14:04 Comments || Top||

#4  No, if it were for foreign consumption, it wouldn't have been given to a Russian-language paper in front of Russian television cameras.

This sounds like another "Secret Speech". And a definite populist move - the bit about the war being won by the people rather than the generals has got to mean something pretty heavy-bore.

I think he's going after Putin.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 05/08/2010 19:06 Comments || Top||

#5  I think he's going after Putin.

Might be nice if true, Mitch...but what's his power base vs. that of Putin? Vlad can pick up the phone and summon up any number of very nasty people from the intelligence services and the criminal networks. IMHO, if Medvedev really is feeling his political oats, he'd better stay the hell away from roofs, windows and elevator shafts...
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 05/08/2010 19:50 Comments || Top||

#6  he'd better stay the hell away from roofs, windows and elevator shafts...

...sushi, people carrying umbrellas, large men in raincoats, beautiful women...
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/08/2010 19:54 Comments || Top||

#7  "The President’s outspoken verdict on Russia’s Soviet legacy contrasted sharply with that of his predecessor Vladimir Putin, who called the collapse of the Communist state “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”."

also contrasts with many US old time leftists who never denounced Stalin
Posted by: lord garth || 05/08/2010 23:13 Comments || Top||


USSR was totalitarian, Medvedev says
[Iran Press TV Latest] Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has criticized the Soviet Union as a totalitarian state that crushed individual liberties.

Medvedev's comments, which also included stinging criticism of the historical role of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, are the bluntest statements on the USSR by a Russian leader in recent times.

In an interview with the newspaper Izvestia published two days before Russia marks the 65th anniversary of victory in World War II, Medvedev said the crimes of wartime dictator Joseph Stalin could never be forgiven.

"Despite the fact that he worked a lot, and despite the fact that under his leadership the country recorded many successes, what was done to his own people cannot be forgiven," Medvedev said.

He also spoke out strongly against efforts to rehabilitate Stalin and sought to distance the Kremlin from a series of recent moves to rekindle his memory.

Medvedev's comments may be an indication that he is trying to distance himself from Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who has adopted a more ambiguous stance on Russia's often tragic history.
Posted by: Fred || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Obama White House Reviving Russian Nuke Deal That Bush Scrapped
The Obama administration is preparing to revive a civilian nuclear cooperation deal with Moscow that then-President George W. Bush angrily canceled two years ago after Russia invaded Georgia, administration officials said Thursday.

The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter. One of the officials said the deal would be submitted to Congress for approval soon.

The State Department declined to comment.

The deal would allow the two countries to exchange nuclear energy technology, engage in joint commercial nuclear power ventures and collaborate on nonproliferation goals.
Posted by: ed || 05/08/2010 12:07 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great. Once again, the American taxpayer gets to subsidize the Russian nuclear program.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/08/2010 12:54 Comments || Top||

#2  How else are they going to pay for their arsenal? It's already two and a half times the size of ours.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 05/08/2010 13:05 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Prophet jailed for blasphemy
[Straits Times] AN INDONESIAN court has jailed a 70-year-old man who claimed to have been to heaven twice and declared himself a prophet, a report said on Friday.
That judge is gonna be real sorry when he turns into a pillar of salt.
Bakri Abdullah was arrested in October last year and charged under the country's blasphemy law.

He reportedly told his small group of followers that he had ascended from a mountain into heaven in 1975 and again in 1997, according to Detikcom news website.

His claims eventually angered his neighbours on the Muslim island of Lombok, who reported him to police.

The sentence handed down on Thursday of one year in jail was six months lighter than prosecutors had requested.
Posted by: Fred || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Science & Technology
Bubble of methane triggered rig blast
EyePee. One of the best technical articles I've read. It clearly describes events and causes without being tendentious.

In a massively ironic event, a group of BP execs were holding a party to celebrate the rig's safety record. A catastrophic blowout methane bubble surged into the rig and was ignited by "exposed ignition sources" (the cake with a candle for each year?).

That caused the initial explosion. Subsequently, the methane cloud enveloped the rig, causing several large engines to overspeed, apparently due to too rich a mixture. They exploded, tore off the rig, and triggered more explosions.

RTWT
Posted by: KBK || 05/08/2010 10:47 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Link doesn't work.
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 05/08/2010 12:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Hm? Works from New Hampshire.
Posted by: KBK || 05/08/2010 12:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Generally makes sense. I don't know about the explanation of the surface plug (cement just below the sea floor) - yes, cement generates heat when it cures, and yes, slushy methane occurs and could get melted. But that slushy gas (methane hydrate, or clathrate) is not deep below the seafloor, but fairly close to the sea floor, and in a zone of rock that already had several strings of casing and cement settings across it. Yes, a rapidly rising and expanding gas bubble does seem to have been the primary culprit - but where did it come from? Oil contains quite a lot of dissolved gas, and as pressure drops that gas comes out of solution and as the gas separates it will rise and expand faster than the oil. But neither oil nor gas was supposed to be inside the casing - which had been set, cemented, and supposedly tested - so should not have even been anywhere it could have been able to expand, exsolve gas, and make a bubble when the crew lightened the mud weight to set the surface plug. If the gas came from somewhere else it could have caused the explosion, but the oil should still be behind cemented pip, so somehow that cement (the cement near the bottom of the well) failed. And it should have been, and supposedly was, tested. It's all very strange to me - the tricky bits (drilling, casing, cementing) were all done, with nothing but fairly benign operations remaining (which is why the safety celebration was going on) when everything went to Hell.
Posted by: Glenmore || 05/08/2010 12:26 Comments || Top||

#4  One of the better articles I've seen. Thanks, KBK.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 05/08/2010 13:38 Comments || Top||

#5  It was a freak of nature, pure and simple. It happens.
Posted by: newc || 05/08/2010 17:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Deep beneath the seafloor, methane is in a slushy, crystalline form

I very much doubt this is true. The writer is confusing clathrates which lie on the sea floor with gas under extreme pressure far below the sea floor.

Methane is in a slushy, crystalline form on the sea floor due to pressure and COLD. At the depths this drill was operating temps would be much hotter than the 4C temperature of the sea floor and far too hot for clathrates to form (I think?).

And if the gas pushed up oil as the article states then the gas must have been below the oil and hence could not have been from sea floor clathrates.

BTW, these gas bubbles under extreme pressure causing blowouts in very deep wells is a known problem. I was reading about it several weeks before this accident.
Posted by: phil_b || 05/08/2010 19:32 Comments || Top||

#7  I find it less than credible that the heat of hydration of cement at that depth/temp/pressure could set it off....just SOP*

*SOP = seat of the pants observation. We use F'c = 8000 psi concrete that doesn't reach 110 (external) at surface enviro
Posted by: Frank G || 05/08/2010 19:56 Comments || Top||

#8  Natural gas on oil wells of ANY depth can be a problem.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/08/2010 19:58 Comments || Top||

#9  Killed by a Party Cake?

As opposed to a Megladon Shark.
Posted by: Clyde Unusonter1178 || 05/08/2010 23:44 Comments || Top||


Global warming fears seen in obsessive compulsive disorder patients
A recent study has found that global warming has impacted the nature of symptoms experienced by obsessive compulsive disorder patients.

Climate change related obsessions and/or compulsions were identified in 28% of patients presenting with obsessive compulsive disorder. Their obsessions included leaving taps on and wasting water, leaving lights on and wasting electricity, pets dying of thirst, leaving the stove on and wasting gas as well as obsessions that global warming had contributed to house floors cracking, pipes leaking, roof problems and white ants eating the house.

Compulsions in response to these obsessions included the checking of taps, light switches, pet water bowls and house structures.

"Media coverage about the possible catastrophic consequences to our planet concerning global warming is extensive and potentially anxiety provoking. We found that many obsessive compulsive disorder patients were concerned about reducing their global footprint," said study author Dr Mairwen Jones.
Posted by: tipper || 05/08/2010 01:04 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pretty much as expected- this is like finding that people dangling over cliffs are concerned about falling- the difference being that the 'cliff' is in the subjects psyche.

What is unsettling is how near-OCD behavior is considered socially acceptable in the global warming congregation, and how crazed lawmaking to compulsively regulate other peoples behavior is debated as being rational instead of what it actually is- symptomatic of a personal spiritual crisis.
Posted by: Free Radical || 05/08/2010 6:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Their obsessions included leaving taps on and wasting water, leaving lights on and wasting electricity

Finally an explanation for noted environmentalists' Al Gore's $30,000 electric bill or Barbra Streisand's $22,000 water bill. They're victims. Boy is my face red, thinking they were nothing but hypocrites.
Posted by: ed || 05/08/2010 10:14 Comments || Top||

#3  STFU and gimme a new gun.
Posted by: Shipman || 05/08/2010 15:06 Comments || Top||

#4  David Cameron just announced "he would make the creation of a low carbon economy a priority".
Posted by: DMFD || 05/08/2010 17:18 Comments || Top||

#5  David Cameron just announced "he would make the creation of a low carbon economy a priority".

How is the smart money betting: new elections in a year or in eighteen months?
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/08/2010 19:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Sounds to me like they're just...nuts.
Posted by: tu3031 || 05/08/2010 20:37 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Wrangling as Thai protesters refuse to quit
BANGKOK - Anti-government protesters in Thailand refused to leave the streets of Bangkok on Friday, but hinted they may be able to strike a deal in the coming days to end a deadly crisis that has stifled the economy.

But after a week of calm, tensions resurfaced late on Friday when a gunman on a motorcycle opened fire near rival protesters in Bangkok's heavily guarded Silom business district, wounding two civilians and two policemen, one critically. Channel 7 television, citing a police spokesman, said the injured officer died during emergency surgery. The spokesman could not be reached for confirmation.

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has put forward a plan to end the rallies that have crippled the capital and scared off tourists, but it remained in limbo as rival factions squabbled over details, including a proposed early election in November.

“We are not calling off protests as yet,' Jaran Ditapichai told Reuters after meeting fellow leaders. “We have a proposal for Abhisit and we will talk about it in more detail later.'

The stand-off has paralysed the commercial heart of the capital for nearly two months, but its roots stretch back to the prime ministership of Thaksin Shinawatra — a populist tycoon ousted in a 2006 military coup — and the deep social divisions it exposed between Thailand's traditional elite and rural masses.

Thai fell 2.1 percent, but other Asian markets were also in negative territory amid worries about the fallout from euro zone debt problems. The baht was little changed. Thai stocks have now given up the gains scored on Tuesday, when the index jumped 4.4 percent in reaction to Abhisit's reconciliation plan.

“The deal is still not off the table. There are still more complications ... This stalemate could actually last for a while,' said Kiatkong Decho, a strategist at CIMB Securities.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran detains 80 youth for illegal "pleasure seeking"
TEHRAN - Iranian police detained 80 young men and women for "lustful pleasure-seeking" activities at an illegal concert, Tehran's chief prosecutor was quoted as saying on Friday. The socially conservative Islamic Republic launched a crackdown two years ago on "indecent Western-inspired movements", such as rappers and satanists, as part of a widening clampdown on conduct the authorities deem immoral.

Public prosecutor Abbas Jafari Dolatabadi said moral security police on Thursday evening received a tip-off that a group of people were secretly selling tickets to a live music performance.

"Police entered the venue where this illegal concert was being held ... 80 boys and girls in inappropriate outfits and under abnormal conditions were arrested," he was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency, without elaborating.

He said their cases were sent to a Tehran court, where they were charged with taking part in "lustful pleasure-seeking" activities, adding that alcohol had also been seized.

Under Iran's Islamic law, unrelated men and women are banned from touching or dancing with members of the opposite sex. Alcohol and narcotics are also illegal in Iran.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So to the Iranian Muslim theocrats pleasure is bad. But they get pleasure from cracking down on pleasure seeking.
Posted by: Glenmore || 05/08/2010 8:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Better to get your kicks the ayatollah approved way.
Posted by: ed || 05/08/2010 11:56 Comments || Top||

#3  these dried up old iranian freaks need to be burned at the stake by their people. How can such a dynamic populous have such a prude running the show?! Free the Iranians! poor bastiches......
Posted by: 746 || 05/08/2010 13:13 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Some Parents Demand That School District Defy New AZ Law
Community members are calling for the Phoenix Union High School District to implement a policy to keep school-resource officers from complying with Arizona's new immigration law.

Their concern is that the sworn police officers assigned to campuses will be arresting students or their family members who are in the country illegally. School officials sought to assure residents that would not occur.
Wonder what the penalty is for school officials violating the law ...
At a meeting this week, Eve Aguirre, a parent in the Phoenix Union district, demanded the district adopt a policy of non-compliance in the wake of Senate Bill 1070, saying the strict new immigration law negatively affects young people. The law takes effect July 29, four days before the first day of school.

Aguirre said she fears that the law, which makes it a state crime to transport illegal immigrants, could put her daughter and family members at risk.

"She has a lot of friends who are undocumented," Aguirre said. "Am I supposed to ask these kids, 'Who has papers? Only kids with papers can get in my car.' You get criminalized if you have an undocumented person in your vehicle."

School-resource officers are sworn police officers attached to schools by the local police department. Their salaries are funded from the School Safety Program, a state program paid for through federal grants. Statewide, 193 schools in 63 districts receive funding for a total of 183 officers, said Rani Collins, school-safety program administrator at the state Department of Education.

Phoenix Police Department legal advisers are reviewing the most recent language added to the immigration bill and are awaiting guidance this month from a board on state peace-officer standards regarding how to provide immigration training for their officers.

Phoenix Union Superintendent Kent Scribner, who sent a letter home to parents the day Gov. Jan Brewer signed the bill into law, said the district will continue to honor U.S. Supreme Court ruling Plyler vs. Doe, which, among other things, prohibited public schools from enforcing immigration law, requiring proof of citizenship from students or parents, or providing information on a student's or family's status to any outside agency, including the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which is now part of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

"We will not tolerate discrimination or harassment of our students or staff," Scribner wrote.

Gabriel Trujillo, principal at Trevor Browne High in west Phoenix, said his school is hosting parent forums to answer questions and ease fears. The school estimated that 1,000 students from Browne walked out of school to protest and march to the Capitol on April 22, one day before Brewer signed the bill criminalizing the presence of undocumented immigrants. The bill also requires police to enforce federal immigration law.

The district of 25,000 students, 78 percent of whom are Hispanic.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/08/2010 09:27 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Their concern is that the sworn police officers assigned to campuses will be arresting students or their family members who are in the country illegally"

These idiots still have not read the whole of the law -- as it was amended the Friday after it was passed. They can only do the immigration check AFTER the person is already detained for some other reason and even then, they need reasonable suspicion.

So no they are'nt going to stop little Pedro in the hallway, but if they have to detain him for breaking the law other than immigration, they have every right to question him about his status if there is reason to suspect it.

Secondly, if they do that, per the law, citizens can SUE the police for failign to enforce the law. Its written into the law - $1500 a pop for failing to enforce it.

Third, if you are breaking the law by being here - GET THE F--- OUT if you don't want to be arrested. Get your kids out of the schools my taxes pay for (leaves more money for the kids who are legally here!), and get your ass out of this country, criminal.
Posted by: OldSpook || 05/08/2010 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  "undocumented immigrants"

pet peeve: these are ILLEGAL aliens, not "undocumented" you filthy POS reporter. Report the news truthfully, stop spinning.

I could hit this reporter in the head with a shovel I would.
Posted by: OldSpook || 05/08/2010 11:04 Comments || Top||

#3  And they are not IMMIGRANTS anyway. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Not undocumented aliens, or undocumented immigrants but ILLEGAL (as: IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW) ALIENS.

Would like to see some school officals carted off the jail for a few months for failing to enforce Federal and State law.

As for Plyler vs. Doe - (and I am not a lawyer nor play one on TV... but from the linked Wikipedia (salt to taste)...) that basically says that the school cannot deny education to illegals. It says nothing about asking about and/or determining their status and/or deporting the kid's family.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/08/2010 13:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Why don't we just fucking kill 'em on sight if they run. I believe AZ has a fleeing felon law?

Greeting Google Friends!
Ship: that's enough.

You've been around for quite a while so you've had a lot of leeway. This comment crosses the line.

Don't do this again. AoS.
Posted by: Shipman || 05/08/2010 15:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Shipman are you ever capable of not being a sarcastic asshole?

Your life must suck.
Posted by: OldSpook || 05/08/2010 15:08 Comments || Top||

#6  "She has a lot of friends who are undocumented," Aguirre said. "Am I supposed to ask these kids, 'Who has papers? Only kids with papers can get in my car.' You get criminalized if you have an undocumented person in your vehicle."

Thus proving that this woman is an idiot...
Posted by: tu3031 || 05/08/2010 20:31 Comments || Top||


Berkeley: UC Workers Join Student Hunger Strike
Don't they realize this will negatively impact tofu processors, organic arugula farmers, alfalfa sprout collectives, and many other workers and peasants?

Oh, the humanity!

Saying the University of California's sharply misguided priorities call for unprecedented and unified action, two University of California employees represented by the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) Local 3299 have joined students in a hunger strike at the UC Berkeley campus. Today's action comes after workers last week called on prominent graduation speakers at UC campuses statewide to refuse to deliver their commencement addresses unless workers' demands are met (see list of demands below).

Abel Salas, a gardener at UC Berkeley, and the latest addition to the hunger strikers, said, "It is the most important thing we can do, to show that students and workers deeply care about these issues and each other, and are both willing to put our bodies on the line for justice."
WWP talking points.
Maricruz Manzanares, a custodian who also joined the students in the hunger strike, said,

"If UC can afford millions in pay raises for executives, the University can certainly afford to keep front-line workers on the job to keep the campus healthy and safe. Students realize that a strong educational community includes the dedicated staff who keep the university running, and we join with students in demanding that UC make education -- not executive perks -- its top priority."
But don't you peasants students and workers realize that many of those self-same executives were once students themselves and manned the barricades during the Vietnam War, thereby helping to achieve final victory for the Stalinist terrorists people of Vietnam?
Workers say UC has for too long ignored the calls of students and staff to halt raises and bonuses for UC executives while classes are overflowing, students are turned away, and low-wage workers see their hours and jobs cut.

UC executives claim that the cuts to workers' jobs and hours are a necessary byproduct of reduced state funding, but workers who are struggling to keep their homes and feed their families see things differently. According to Lakesha Harrison, president of AFSCME 3299, "UC executives claim to be saving $7 million by cutting low wage workers. Yet UC executives have received over $9 million in bonuses and raises since the cuts were implemented. This is just wrong."
Sheesh! It's not like they were Republicans or something.
Full-time UC workers making as little as $12 per hour, or $24,000 annually are experiencing anywhere between 4% to 20% reductions in take-home pay. As a result, many of these workers at UC are being pushed into poverty, losing their homes, and having to work multiple jobs to support their families.

AFSCME 3299 and UPTE Local 1, two of the largest unions representing UC Berkeley workers, have called for a speakers' boycott of UC Berkeley graduations, and today said that they will not call off their upcoming speakers boycott of UC graduations unless the hunger strikers' demands are met. The boycott asks prominent commencement speakers to refuse to address graduations unless UC:

1) Restores jobs for laid off service workers, Cal Performances workers, and UPTE union activists at UC Berkeley
Our perks are different!
2) Restores the hours that were cut from low-wage service workers at UC Berkeley

3) Drops the student conduct charges that occurred during the academic year 2009-10. Students should not be prosecuted for peacefully protesting UC executives' misplaced priorities.
Of course, that cannot include the poor pinko who broke into the president's house. She was shot dead by police.
4) Commits to doing everything within UC's power to preserve quality, affordable benefits for UC workers
They can recruit a Red Pioneer Youth brigade to go harvest some more money off the trees where it grows.
5) Suspends the student code of conduct and initiates a democratic, student-led process to review the code.
I'm sure the revolutionary leadership can come up with a good substitute. Just ask Trotsky.
6) Accepts responsibility for the violence and escalation of the confrontation surrounding Wheeler Hall on November 20th that resulted in injuries to many students and commits to using non-violent means of ensuring safety at student demonstrations in the future.
I have a better idea: Equip the mounted police with fur hats and sabers so they can ride you Bolsheviks down Cossack style.
7) Publicly denounces Arizona's law and deems UC Berkeley a sanctuary campus for immigrant students and workers.
Now, there's a proposal we can all get behind. I can just see the union agitators welcoming illegals into their Marin County condos.
Posted by: Threting Uniling3274 || 05/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I am SO happy to be outta there!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/08/2010 0:14 Comments || Top||

#2  According to Lakesha Harrison, president of AFSCME 3299, "UC executives claim to be saving $7 million by cutting low wage workers. Yet UC executives have received over $9 million in bonuses and raises since the cuts were implemented. This is just wrong."

Well, yeah. Maybe try getting some conservatives to run the place and it wouldn't happen. Or it still might, depending on how forgetful they are.

Keep spawning your liberal ideology through your students. It's really helped California so far.
Posted by: gorb || 05/08/2010 0:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Huge executive bonuses in the middle of deep cuts is infuriating.


Not sure how a hunger strike by a bunch of hippies is supposed to stop it though.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 05/08/2010 1:12 Comments || Top||

#4  It's simple: Hunger strikes are a "feel good" thing.
Posted by: gorb || 05/08/2010 1:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Given the actors in that little drama, I wonder that their hunger strike actually consists off?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/08/2010 2:44 Comments || Top||

#6  I dunnow seems to me that since using pot gives you the munchies, their "Hunger strike" is doomed, Unless they get too stoned to remember there IS a strike?
Either way a huge flop, But announced as a huge success.
Like the fool who's been on a Hunger strike for thirty years now, I just don't Quite believe he's serious.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 05/08/2010 7:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Let 'em strike. Why would I care?
Posted by: Glenmore || 05/08/2010 8:46 Comments || Top||

#8  There's hunger strikes and there's "hunger strikes".
I doubt the modern day Bobby Sands is coming outta this one.
Posted by: tu3031 || 05/08/2010 10:54 Comments || Top||

#9  according to Cindy Sheehan, devouring a power Jamba Juice smoothie complies with a hunger strike. Ima thinkrn these tools are gonna follow her brave path
Posted by: Frank G || 05/08/2010 12:23 Comments || Top||

#10  There has been a huge proliferation of administrative types in large universities over the years. Part of this expansion of administrators is to cover the federal mandates forced upon these universities for taking federal research dollars. Another part of it is the tendency towards empire-building. The result is that costs go up and then tuition goes up. A further result is that students then protest tuition hikes. These protesting students don't realize or don't care if they are shooting themselves in the foot. No way are these demands going to be met that it won't cost them more money. Daddy might be footing the bill.
Posted by: JohnQC || 05/08/2010 16:07 Comments || Top||

#11  So this isn't really a headcount reduction?
Posted by: James || 05/08/2010 16:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Are they gathered at some place? I will swing by In and Out and eat in front of them.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 05/08/2010 19:15 Comments || Top||

#13  Double-double animal style and fries well done animal style for me please
Posted by: Frank G || 05/08/2010 19:22 Comments || Top||



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