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-Lurid Crime Tales-
New law counters Westboro protests - adds an additional 150 feet
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 11:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  150 feet of rope would be fine with me.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 13:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Just returned from the funeral of GySgt Daniel J. Price USMC.
Minimum of 2500 people turned out on word that Westboro might show up. Lined the road from the church to the cemetery, two deep, both sides, about a bazillion flags.
I talked to a Patriot Guard Rider who said he'd heard a minimum of 500 bikes--I counted more, so perhaps he wasn't talking about other clubs, of which there were probably half a dozen. He said that, with so many bikes, if WB showed, the family would never notice.
Apparently, some Baptist pastors in Holland, MI, wanted to reclaim the good name of Baptist, and were first to start a call for their congregations to turn out.
Impressive in all ways.
Go with God, Marine.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 08/11/2012 13:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Impressive, RA. While I can't speak for the Price family, I can say that such public and unexpected honoring of a loved one was meaningful to our family four years ago, when my father-in-law (Army Air Corps instructor, 1940's) died. As the cortege left the small town funeral home for the church, we went by the pre-school/day care center, and there were dozens of little children standing on the embankment waving flags. That left some tears of joy mixed in with the tears of grief.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 14:17 Comments || Top||

#4  you must have taller trees than we do, Besoeker
Posted by: Pearl Barnsmell2780 || 08/11/2012 15:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Add an additional 45,000,000 feet and that should take care of the problem.
Posted by: gorb || 08/11/2012 15:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Glenmore. My Dad is still with us. In assisted living, when there's a party of some kind with the relatives and friends visiting, one of the songs you always hear is "God Bless America".
I was reminded of that when I noticed that an assisted living facility on the route had about two dozen folks, and the staff, in chairs on their lawn, with flags.
I also note that, in many of the rooms you'll find references to service in WW II--my father's Silver Star cite framed--or Korea.
Take fifty years off these folks and there'd be hell to pay in some quarters. Domestically, I mean.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 08/11/2012 17:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Which makes it our turn to step up, Richard.
Posted by: lotp || 08/11/2012 18:53 Comments || Top||


China: Police on Trial in Gu Kailai Case Don't Contest Charges
For those readers who don't have a Wall Street Journal subscription, google the headline to get access to the article.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Historic US town of two on auction
[Bangla Daily Star] A historic American town with a population of two people will be auctioned off on August 15, the auctioneers Williams & Williams said Thursday.

The northwestern town of Garryowen, Montana, little over 7.7 acres, includes houses, a grocery store, a fast food restaurant, a shop and a post office.

"The town has a population of two, making it one of the smallest towns in the United States," reads the auction house's website.

The parcel of land is also situated on the site of the legendary 1876 battle of Little Big Horn, in which US troops led by General George Armstrong Custer were routed by Native American tribes, including the Cheyenne and the Sioux.

The historic defeat, in which Custer was killed, has inspired books and a number of films, including "Little Big Man" (1970), with actor Dustin Hoffman.

The bid for the little piece of Americana will open at $250,000. Up for auction alongside the parcel are a collection of manuscripts and personal belongings of Custer's widow, also up at a starting price of $250,000.

Williams & Williams sold Buford, Wyoming -- billed as the smallest town in America -- to a Vietnamese national for $900,000 at auction in April.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We might do well to sell off Washington, D.C. Maybe NYC, Chicago, and Detroit too. Bidding starts at a dollar.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/11/2012 8:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I wouldn't give a plugged nickle for those cities, John.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/11/2012 12:26 Comments || Top||

#3  John, you couldn't pay me to take them - particularly Detroit.
Posted by: Barbara || 08/11/2012 12:49 Comments || Top||

#4  When gasoline gets to $10 a gallon, how much will this town be worth?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 13:15 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
13 killed by lightning outside Bangla mosque
Local police chief Bayes Ahmed says 20 other people were injured by the lightning late Friday in Sylhet district. The victims were struck by the lightning as they were exiting the mosque following special prayers tied to the holy month of Ramadan.

Ahmed said Saturday that some of those who were killed died at the scene, while others died on the way to the hospital. He said the imam who led the prayers was among the dead.
Sounds like Allah was displeased. Maybe it was the sermon...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/11/2012 13:05 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "these new metal covers for our Qurans are great!"
Posted by: Frank G || 08/11/2012 13:38 Comments || Top||

#2  "One Second After" Beta testing.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 14:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Earthquakes in Iran, lightning strike outside Bangla Mosque. I wonder what goes on.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/11/2012 15:54 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Morocco security officials arrested in corruption swoop
[Daily Nation (Kenya)] An unspecified number of security officials accused of corruption on Morocco's northern coast have been placed in durance vile
Drop the rosco and step away witcher hands up!
as part of a judicial inquiry ordered by the king, government sources said on Friday.

Those placed in durance vile
Drop the rosco and step away witcher hands up!
include police agents and customs officers stationed in the ports of Tangier, Nador and Al-Hoceima, with the probe currently targeting between 15 and 20 people, the sources told AFP.

"This inquiry was decided by the king of Morocco following complaints by Moroccan nationals living abroad who have been inconvenienced during their visits at several border posts," the palace said in a statement.

The written and oral complaints recently came to the attention of the king.

"The king has ordered the opening of an inquiry, in conformity with the law, relating to the fraudulent behaviour, corruption and harassment exercised by members of the security services assigned" to the border posts, the palace added.

The probe is also expected to target middlemen illegally offering transit services to Moroccans travellers in exchange for cash, according to other sources.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  Greed (not sharing with the upstairs) will get you every time.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/11/2012 4:18 Comments || Top||


Head of Libya's new national assembly pledges neutrality
[Daily Nation (Kenya)] The head of Libya's newly-empowered national assembly Mohamed al-Megaryef pledged on Friday to remain neutral and seek to unite ranks in the country, where post-revolution divisions are still deep.

"My main duty is to stand aside, away from political, regional and tribal considerations," Megaryef said as he presided over the first official meeting of the General National Congress.

Speaking just a day after he was elected head of the 200-seat assembly, Megaryef, who is seen as pro-Islamist, announced that he will quit as president of the Libyan National Salvation Front.

Megaryef, a veteran opponent of slain Libyan strongman Moamer Qadaffy's ousted regime, defeated liberal independent Ali Zidane in a run-off by 113 votes to 85.

He said he will keep an "equal distance" with all members of the assembly and called for a broad national dialogue involving politicians and members of civil society, including those outside the legislative body.

He also underlined the need to "remain close to the people" and suggested that all meetings of the assembly be broadcast live on Libyan television.

"Of course there will be differences of opinion. But we must exchange views in order to reach common agreement for the supreme interest of the nation," he said.

"The Congress has a huge and important responsibility," said Megaryef, adding that Libya was at an "important and dangerous" crossroad in its history.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring


Libya's National Transitional Council hands over power to new assembly
[Iran Press TV] Libya's outgoing National Transitional Council (NTC) has handed over power to the newly-elected General National Congress almost a year after the revolution that toppled long-time dictator Muammar Qadaffy.
... who had more funny outfits than Louis XIV...

The North African country's first peaceful transition of power in more than four decades took place in an official ceremony in the capital Tripoli on Wednesday night, AFP reported.

NTC Chairman Mustafa Abdul Jalil handed power to Mohammed Ali Salim, the chairman and the oldest member of the 200-seat legislative body elected on July 7. NTC and government officials, representatives of civil society groups as well as diplomatic missions in Libya, participated in the ceremony.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring


Africa Subsaharan
Gabon bans demos for opposition leader's return
[Daily Nation (Kenya)] Gabon said Friday it has banned gatherings by supporters of leading opposition figure Andre Mba Obame to mark his return to the country after 14 months abroad for health reasons.

Mba Obame, who was interior minister under the late president Omar Bongo, declared himself president in January last year after rejecting the election of the former leader's son Ali Bongo in 2009.

His action resulted in the regime officially dissolving his National Union Party, one of two main opposition groups in the west African nation. He claims the 2009 election was rigged.

Gabon presidential front man Alain-Claude Bilie-By-Nze said any gathering by his supporters to mark Mba Obame's return on Saturday "were not authorised," and that an apparent increase in security in Libreville was not connected.

Mba Obame risks a possible jail term of up to a year if he is convicted of disturbing public order over his 2011 proclamation, after his parliamentary immunity was lifted, his lawyer Lubin Ntoutoume said.

Mba Obame has spent about 14 months away having medical treatment in South Africa and La Belle France for a back problem.

"Thirteen months after I left Gabon in a wheelchair, I will be back very soon on both legs," he said last month from La Belle France. "Let those who reported me dead prepare to battle my ghost!"
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:


Arabia
Saudi Arabia developing all-woman cities
In a bid to offer more women career opportunities without running afowl of Sharia law, the Saudi Arabian government is putting together a group of all-women cities.

According to Russia Today, construction on the first new municipality, an industrial hub slated to be part of the city of Hafuf in the eastern part of the country, is slated to begin next year, under the direction of the Saudi Industrial Property Authority (Modon).

Officials say the new hub will focus on the textile industry and create about 5,000 jobs, with women figuring in in both managerial roles and working on production lines.

“I’m sure that women can demonstrate their efficiency in many aspects and clarify the industries that best suit their interests, their nature and their ability,” said Saleh Al-Rasheed, deputy director-general of Modon, adding that plans are already in the works for the second women-only city, with hopes to develop a network of them around the country. The first hub is expected to bring in 500 million riyals (about $133 million) in investments.

Sharia law traditionally allows women to be employed in a limited capacity, but with a 26.9 female unemployment rate – four times that of men – religious mores may be forced to give way to fiscal prudence.
Posted by: tipper || 08/11/2012 20:01 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just remember women are monsters that want to eat our guts

Posted by: Squinty Groluck1789 || 08/11/2012 21:48 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Japan Tries to Stay off Nuke Power
Workers in short-sleeve dress shirts spend their days in 82-
degree offices, the new standard. Lights are dimmed and printers are on only when necessary. Companies chart their energy use, and at one bread factory on this northern island, an employee jumps on the PA system when electricity usage spikes, ordering air conditioners off and asking select workers to stop what they’re doing.

But many Japanese companies are tired of cooperating. Asked by the government to use less electricity, companies say the cutbacks curb their productivity, thin their profits and could eventually stall the world’s third-largest economy.
I'm an engineer, not an economist, but I understand that!

The energy-saving push was seen on a smaller scale last year after an earthquake and tsunami triggered a crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant on Japan’s east coast and caused shutdowns at several others, and Japanese companies obliged without complaint.

Unlike last summer, when severe shortages were confined to the northeast, even regions far removed from the Fukushima plant now face shortages, with all but two of Japan’s 50 viable reactors shuttered amid public opposition. Utility companies are importing record levels of fossil fuels, but even that hasn’t covered the gap.
Fossil fuels? Global warming fuels? Aren't they worried about going awash when the oceans rise 3,000 feet?

That leaves companies — many that were already energy-efficient — straining for unorthodox ways to meet peak-hour summer reduction targets. Electronics giant Panasonic told employees at its Osaka headquarters to take a nine-day paid vacation in late July. Manufacturer Nippon Tungsten, in Japan’s southern island of Kyushu, bumped work shifts to the weekend to avoid peak hours and, to use less air conditioning, started spraying factory rooftops with cold water. Breadmaker Nichiryo, based in Hokkaido, leased a 200 kilovolt-ampere diesel generator, which supplies electricity at four times the cost of the regional utility company.

Anti-nuclear activists and American Democrats and other tree huggers say that Japan could replace nuclear power, which once supplied one-third of the nation’s electricity, with renewable sources. But that will take years of work and billions in investment. This summer’s shortages have convinced some corporations that nuclear power is essential, at least until progress on renewable energy is made.
Or the twenty-second century, whichever comes first.

In Hokkaido, households and companies are being asked to shave 7 percent from their 2010 peak-hour consumption levels. Were the local utility able to operate even a single reactor, such a request wouldn’t be necessary.

The energy shortages are particularly vexing for companies because nobody knows how long they’ll last. Energy experts say that the best way for corporations to reduce consumption is with heavy investment, particularly in energy-
efficient lighting and in modern machinery. Companies, though, are hesitant to spend the money before they know Japan’s long-term plan for the nuclear plants.
The ol' uncertainty bugaboo, eh?

Posted by: Bobby || 08/11/2012 14:44 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ..companies say the cutbacks curb their productivity, thin their profits and could eventually stall the world’s third-largest economy..

Ah, working towards the North Korean model. Pass the bark.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/11/2012 15:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey, if they want to damage their economy, fine. China is ramping up their nuclear program.
Posted by: crosspatch || 08/11/2012 18:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey, didn't a federal judge just start denying all permits for nuclear construction?

So yeah, whatever fuckage they're getting, guess what, we're signing up for it too.

The liberals are all in joy that the judge is a Reagan appointee, btw. They've made the decisions to lead to this and are pretending they're supporting nuclear power.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/11/2012 22:19 Comments || Top||


Economy
U.S. banks told to make plans for preventing collapse
Long piece about 'recovery plans' and 'resolution plans' by the big five U.S. banks to deal with any new disaster. This shouldn't be big news; it's much like the military having a plan in case we're invaded by Canada.

Interesting read if you're curious, and it does represent some quiet competence (for once) by the Fed.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/11/2012 09:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'll have to read it and see what the plans are for keeping the executives' assets protected; i'm sure THOSE plans are well-established.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 10:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Safe for government takeover. That is what has happened in the past. South Vietnamese people lost everything they had in the bank. When the Iron Curtain came down many lost everything in their banks. I'd bet this has been going on for a long time. Cuba, Libya, Egypt and perhaps Syria. I can see it now should Obama win the election. We are better able to manage your--our money. Then the buck does stop here.
Posted by: Dale || 08/11/2012 16:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Unfortunately with 16 trillion in debt and major uncertainty with November election there could easily be a run on money at banks, major loan defaults (private and public) and a stock market flash crash that does not recovery quickly.

Not sure where the breaking point will be but sooner or later there will not be enough liquity to maintain the ever increasing borrowing and printing of money.
Posted by: Airandee || 08/11/2012 22:27 Comments || Top||


Oil demand slows as global economy falters
LONDON: Oil demand will rise more slowly than expected next year as economic growth falters, pushing up stockpiles of fuel worldwide and offering some relief to consumers facing high prices. The West's energy watchdog, the International Energy Agency (IEA), said it had cut its estimates of oil use worldwide for several years, trimming its 2013 demand forecast by 400,000 barrels per day (bpd) in the light of a "worrying slowdown" in global economic activity.

"Lower economic growth is feeding through to slower oil demand all round," said David Fyfe, head of the IEA's markets division. "Global inventories have risen, and the oil market looks comfortably supplied."
But gas is still $4 a gallon in the U.S...
The IEA's monthly market report on Friday echoed pessimistic forecasts this week by the US government and the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). The three top energy market forecasters all say output of crude oil has exceeded demand by a wide margin in the first half of this year, filling up stocks of oil and offering a sizeable cushion to cope with any unexpected shock to supplies.

This should help balance the impact on oil prices of political tensions such as the stand-off between the West and Iran over Tehran's nuclear program.

"The significant stock builds that occurred in the first half of 2012 will help relieve global oil markets in the second half," the government's Energy Information Administration (EIA) said.

The EIA expects oil inventories in the developed industrialised economies to rise to 2.62 billion barrels, or 57 days of forward cover by the end of this year, "which is among the highest end-of-year levels in the last decade because of the decline in OECD consumption".

OPEC, which supplies more than a third of the world's oil, says it has been pumping more than 2 million bpd more oil than needed for the last few months, filling up tanks worldwide. The producers' group said in its report that economic slowdown could depress oil demand growth further.
Every time they pledge to cut production, the various members cheat. Iran has to cheat to move oil in spite of the sanctions. The rest of the oil ticks need the money, particularly Hugo. So production will remain high. But prices won't come down because of the threat of a Persian Gulf war which will keep the speculators bidding the prices up.
"The gloomy picture could reduce the world oil demand growth forecast by 20 percent next year," OPEC said.

However, security of supply is still a nagging worry.

"The geopolitical dimension is likely to continue to provide something of a floor for prices. The issue of Iran will likely continue to weigh heavy on the market through the second half of 2012," the IEA said in its monthly report. "Moreover, there is a risk that recent progress in restoring output from Libya, Iraq and Nigeria could be jeopardised if recent political and civil tensions worsen."

Oil prices plunged below $90 a barrel in June after Saudi Arabia stepped in to raise production when Iranian exports fell due to Western sanctions. North Sea Brent crude oil has since recovered to above $110, supported by Iranian tensions and investors' hopes for new money printing programmes from global central banks.

But supply and demand fundamentals of the market are weak. The IEA said it had revised its forecast for oil demand growth in 2013 down by 150,000 bpd to 830,000 bpd, below the growth of 870,000 bpd expected in 2012.

"The latest (Chinese) data reveals a sharp deceleration in momentum compared to the double-digit expansions seen at the beginning of 2011," the IEA said.

On the supply side, global oil production in July stood 2.6 million bpd higher than a year ago, with 80 percent of the increase deriving from OPEC, it said. The agency said exports of Iranian oil in July fell to multi-year lows of 1 million bpd from 1.74 million in June, but it added that sales of Iranian oil to major consumers could start picking up this month.

"There is scope for imports from Iran to recover modestly from September onwards, albeit we retain our existing assumption that around 1 million bpd of Iranian oil may struggle to find buyers in the second half of 2012."

"An observed decline of 14 million barrels in Iranian floating storage in July also suggests that some extra oil is en route to customers for August/September delivery," the IEA added.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But gas is still $4 a gallon in the U.S...

$3.25 here in the Deep south.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/11/2012 0:08 Comments || Top||

#2  And my Toyota (Made in Tennessee) Gets 37 MPG.
At 3.25 that makes my cost-per-mile around 8.7cents a mile NO repairs needed. (Yet)

(Did just put a $350.00 Wheel bearing on it a month ago, should be good for another 100,000 or so)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/11/2012 0:15 Comments || Top||

#3  But gas is still $4 a gallon in the U.S...

And will stay so. A trillion dollar stim, multiple quantitative easings all without any substance to back the creation of money invites inflation. Commodities maintain a general relationship between each other barring some significant change in productivity or technology. I use the 'penny indicator'. In 2005 it cost about .97th of a cent to make a [already debased non-pure copper] 'penny'. Today it costs 2.42 cents to make a 'penny'. In other words, while in 2005 your paper dollar was worth about 100 pennies in actual cost/value, today 2012, that paper dollar is buying 42 pennies. So, in relationship of commodities, that 4 dollar gallon of gasoline is about 168 'pennies'.

On the other side, those 2008 million dollar homes which after the bust by 2009 could only sale for 400 thousand and were sitting on the books of all those banks are now appreciated by that 'non-inflation' back to something close of their pre-bust valuation. The banks are solvent thanks to the boys running the Fed and Treasury, who will, of course, get employment in the industry after their time in the Beltway.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/11/2012 9:04 Comments || Top||

#4  We've got a KIA plant down the road in Lagrange. I don't care for them myself, they remind me of a Nash. The Good Lord drove a Ford. Glad to have the factory here though. They employ a lot of local people, even one or two Alabamians. :-)
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 9:10 Comments || Top||

#5  As usual, what was omitted from this article was a graph showing daily/annual oil consumption on a worldwide basis. It has plateau'd, and the reported 'slowing' is a mere ripple in that plateau.
Oil demand, demand forecasts, supply and demand fundamentals, etc. are all hypotheticals. Consumption isn't.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 12:48 Comments || Top||

#6  The TPBF banks are NOT solvent, but the Fed & the Treasury do make the rest of us think that they are.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 12:49 Comments || Top||

#7  I paid $3.35/gallon at a Sam's Club in Central Virginia yesterday, RJ. It's around $3.50 at gas stations.
Posted by: Barbara || 08/11/2012 12:53 Comments || Top||

#8  All commodities are still grossly expensive. From gypsum to copper, with greatly decreased demand they still remain very expensive.

Do you think the market could be rigged?

What am I saying? I'm surely in the NSA data banks now!
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 08/11/2012 12:53 Comments || Top||

#9  The gross expense of commodities merely reflects worldwide currency debasement, in my opinion. All the bad debt run up in recent decades has to be absorbed somehow.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 13:05 Comments || Top||

#10  What am I saying? I'm surely in the NSA data banks now!

Oh, we've had you in the data banks for a long time now.
Posted by: NSA Database Mgr. || 08/11/2012 14:55 Comments || Top||


US corn production hits 6-year low due to extreme drought
[Iran Press TV] Corn and soybean production in the United States has slashed to a six-year low as the worst drought in more than 50 years is hitting the country hard.

The US Department of Agriculture announced on Friday that the corn harvest is estimated to drop 13 percent to its lowest level in six years.

The harvest will total 10.779 billion bushels compared with 12.358 billion in 2011 and about 2.2 billion bushels less than it was predicted last month.

The department added that the all-time July's record temperatures across the country have left much of the crops damaged.

About 55 percent of contiguous areas in the US, which is the world's biggest grain producer, are currently experiencing extreme drought.

Corn prices have surged more than 60 percent over the past two months, reaching an all-time high of $8.49 a bushel on the Chicago Board of Trade.

The effect of such high prices is already being felt around the world, raising fears that the 2008 global food crisis could be repeated.

The drought began in the eastern and southern Midwest but has now spread to the central and western areas of the region, including the two main states of the US Corn Belt, Iowa and Illinois.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  MIGHT stop Burning the corn as Gas extender,that would stop wastage such as the train wreck that destroyed about 330,00 gallons recently.(Florida about 300.000 bushels burned up) drink or eat it instead.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/11/2012 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  See also TOPIX, WORLD NEWS > WORLD OVERUSING UNDERGROUND WATER RESERVES FOR AGRICULTURE.

Can't the blame the Sun on this one - OR CAN WE???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/11/2012 1:31 Comments || Top||

#3  can't stop.
Elevators have been removed in many places and replaced with ethanol plants. Good luck using it for feed or food again.
Posted by: Water Modem || 08/11/2012 4:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Comment by Egyptian Minister for keeping the rabble quiet?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/11/2012 4:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Someone commented recently that the variety of corn used for ethanol is inedible.. So nothing can change until next year at least. Any bets on where we'll see food riots, other than Egypt?
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/11/2012 5:58 Comments || Top||

#6  it is edible. it is just not approved for human consumption by the FDA. a significant difference and since we are talking MME, that approval may not apply.
Posted by: abu do you love || 08/11/2012 7:25 Comments || Top||

#7  It still can be used to fatten livestock: Egyptians don't compete for corn with Americans---they compete with Chinese pigs.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/11/2012 7:41 Comments || Top||

#8  The five-year-old EPA Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS), U.S. fuel companies are required to ensure that 9 percent of their gasoline pools are made up of ethanol, which means converting some 40 percent of the corn crop into the biofuel. The RFS is little more than a giant farm sudsidy which makes your car run less efficiently and buggers smaller engines.

Check out the "poor farmers" by posting your Zipp to the link above. Be sure your blood pressure meds are close by.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 8:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, just look at all the farm subsidies here. Welfare for the rich. Don't have bread, let'm eat cake.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/11/2012 8:48 Comments || Top||

#10  All the rain in the country seems to be falling here in south Louisiana.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 10:57 Comments || Top||

#11  The five-year-old EPA Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS), U.S. fuel companies are required to ensure that 9 percent of their gasoline pools are made up of ethanol, which means converting some 40 percent of the corn crop into the biofuel.

US refineries have been adapted to mix ethanol into the gasoline and can no longer mix with natural gas as previously done. The California Chevron refinery fire was one of our largest, producing for stringent CA standards, and it is not known when it can be back online.
Posted by: OmuluqueHapsburg5085 || 08/11/2012 11:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Chevron's Richmond refinery is indeed one of the biggest, but I believe damage was limited and most of the plant could be reopened quickly - if political objections can be overcome.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 11:24 Comments || Top||

#13  1.5 gallons of ethanol has the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline. It would seem that you would need more 10% ethanol fuel to get the same mileage as you do from a gallon of gasoline. Wouldn't 10% ethanol cost more per mile? Wouldn't that make us more dependent on foreign oil? Wouldn't the use of ethanol divert food (corn) to fuel increasing demand and thus making ethanol + gas fuel more expensive? I'm wondering at this point if my thinking is a bit muddled regarding ethanol making us more dependent or less dependant on foreign fuel?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/11/2012 16:04 Comments || Top||

#14  Well, just look at all the farm subsidies here. Welfare for the rich. Don't have bread, let'm eat cake.

Yes!

We're #3 of 1555 for local wheat subsidies (haven't grown the damn stuff in the better part of a decade but the past two farm bills didn't fund a new recount of acres so we're running on the 1990s numbers). Switched to corn to take advantage of the ethanol mandate.

Aaaand #4 of 1323 for soybean subsidies.

I'd like to thank the Academy ... and all of you kind folks for your most generous contributions!
Posted by: Gerthudion Speaking for Boskone6793 || 08/11/2012 22:04 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Quebec Separatists Kick Beaver in New Campaign Ad
[An Nahar] A fourth-ranked separatist party vying for an upset riveted Quebec's election campaign Wednesday with an ad showing a beaver in a Mountie hat getting the boot.

The beaver is Canada's national symbol, which can be traced back to the nation's early history, when explorers crossed the continent in search of beaver pelts for use in fashionable hats in Europe.

Quebec solidaire posted an online video depicting a stick figure cheerfully booting the buck-toothed rodent off the screen after it purrs and tries to rub up against its leg.

The crudely-drawn cartoon was designed to put to rest doubts about the party's support for Quebec independence from Canada after other separatists questioned its commitment, as well as to help it stand out in a crowd.

Three of the five political parties in the September 4 election race support Quebec illusory sovereignty while a fourth has vowed to put independence on the back burner, for now.

"There are rumors that members of Quebec solidaire drape themselves in the Maple Leaf and hold questionable ties to beavers," says the ad's narrator in French. "In fact, that's not quite the case."

"Federalist, Quebec solidaire? Not at all. Sovereigntist, but not like the others," the narrator adds.

The party noted that no beavers were harmed in the making of the spot.

But not everyone is laughing.

The spot has unwittingly grabbed the attention of English Canada for the first time in the campaign, with commentaries blasting the revival of the separatist movement (and the abuse of animals).

"Can you imagine the screams if we had a cartoon of a beaver eating a fleur de lys?" said a posting on public broadcaster CBC's website.

Quebec twice rejected independence from the rest of Canada in referendums in 1980 and 1995, but only by a narrow margin last time.

Within Quebec, rivals fear Quebec solidaire may siphon votes from the main separatist party, the Parti Quebecois, which could return the federalist Liberals to power and quell talk of independence for at least four more years.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iff Marseille, France is Europe's first
"Islamic" City, i.e. a place where the Muslim community is so huge andor influential that it can poten legally formally vote to change the name of the city from French to Muslim context, VANCOUVER may be Canada's first "Chinese" City???

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINESE [largest] MIGRANT THREAT TO AUSTRALIA.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > RUSSIA'S MEDVEDEV HINTS AT CHINESE THREAT TO FAR EAST | MEDVEDEV SAYS RUSSIA MUST PROTECT FAR EAST TERRITORY, from "excessive expansion from bordering states" whcih is interpreted as PCorrect-speak or reference to China.

RELATED TOPIX > RUSSIA FEARS CHINESE [immigrant]INFLUX TO RUSSIAN FAR EAST.

OH THE BEAVER/FUR-MANITY - iff Quebec separatists succeed in creating a "New France II" autonomous or sovereign enclave/state in Canada while losing the old country to Islam???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/11/2012 0:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Canadians have as much chance of getting rid of their Quebecois moochers as the English have of ridding themselves of the Scots. They'll both bitch but never leave the teat.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/11/2012 9:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Having not traveled extensively in Canada, I was surprised at the enmity I found in non-French speaking Canadians toward their French speaking brothers. It runs rather deep.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 9:43 Comments || Top||

#4  It's been 40-some years, but I remember being in Montreal and asking a store clerk something in English and getting a blank stare - until I said I was American, at which point my question was cheerfully answered, in English. French-speakers had to be binlingual to 'function' but English-speakers did not, which generated animosity.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 10:37 Comments || Top||

#5  "Federalist, Quebec solidaire? Not at all. Sovereigntist, but not like the others"

"We will still need your money, English pigs."
Posted by: Pappy || 08/11/2012 12:35 Comments || Top||

#6  They should've run with this...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/11/2012 12:41 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Demand for law to raise marriage age for girls to 18
[Dawn] "If a girl can move around a charpoy, she is old and strong enough for marriage" is an oft-heard sentence in the rural areas of Sindh, justifying early marriages, said a participant in a consultative meeting on early marriages organised by the Adolescent Girls Empowerment.

Following the sessions with the social sector and religious scholars, the third meeting was held with media persons to carry forward the message of doing away with early marriages.

Speaking at the event, Sindh women development minister Tauqeer Fatima Bhutto said Pakistain was a conservative country, where women were often kept on the margins. Despite societal attitudes, there was a need to review the existing laws and create new ones to provide justice to women.

Given the sensitive nature of the issue, the minister cautioned the audience that her words must not be taken out of context.

"We all use religion for our personal gains. Whereas it is said that four marriages are allowed, men claim it to be their right, but they don't heed the insistence on 'equality'. The same is the case with marriage where 'aaqil-o-baligh' is a criterion for an individual to get married," she said, adding that maidens of tender years were hardly in a position to make decisions when it came to a lifelong contract, nikah.

"It's not just an issue of age. We have to give our girls their rights to health and wellbeing and in this regard, raising the age limit is a must."

RutgersWPF programme manager Kanwal Qayyum said maidens of tender years led the maternal mortality rate in Pakistain, adding: "The Child Restraint Marriage Act 1929 needs to be amended where a girl of 16 years is eligible for marriage. The age must be increased to 18 years so that the girls are physically and mentally mature enough to deal with pregnancies."

Talking to Dawn, Abdul Rahim Moosavi, project coordinator of HANDS, said: "We hope to create awareness at the community level regarding the harmful practice of early marriages. The project aims to minimise opposition and mobilise support through advocacy."

Most importantly, he said, it aimed at becoming a catalyst for the passage of a child marriage bill on increasing the minimum age of marriage for girls from 16 to 18.

"In our earlier consultation, the Learned Elders of Islam were quite forthcoming. They said if they were involved in the process, doubts could be removed and we all must work as partners. They even suggested that nikah could be performed early, but rukhsati could be delayed till the girl is 18," said Mr Moosavi.

Though the discussion remained focused on how the age limit could be changed given the religious edicts on the issue, the participants observed that change in rural society was much needed in order to end the practice of child marriage.

Though the minister and the implementing partners insisted that the media could help do away with child marriages if it did its job well, many participants said such a bill would face a lot of resistance.

"Changing the mindset in a feudal society is very difficult. However,
it's easy to be generous with someone else's money...
this issue needs to be taken out of the boardrooms and into the community. Most importantly, for this Islamic scholars must be taken on board as they are the ones who have greater reach and if possible a fatwa against early marriages be issued by a competent authority," a journalist from an Urdu daily said. In their recommendations, the government and civil society partners suggested the government must develop and implement systems to prevent child marriages as well as set 18 years as the legal age of consent. It further recommended that attitudes towards child marriages must be changed and stressed the need for community awareness programmes and discussion of human rights
...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions...
perspective in the media. It said life skill-based education must be imparted to youngsters in school to enable them to think rationally.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  It's been 16 for as long as I can remember, that's a good age, stop MEDDLING.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/11/2012 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Redneck Jim, here in the USthat means the youngest of those getting married is 16. In Pakistan, girls are being given/sold into marriage at age six or nine. I'm not sure how raising the legal age from 16 to 18 will benefit them in any way.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/11/2012 6:25 Comments || Top||


Man denied bail in acid throwing case
[Dawn] A local court on Thursday dismissed pre-arrest bail application of a man charged with cutting hair of his wife and trying to burn her with acid over a domestic dispute.

Following the court orders the accused, Ishaq Khan, was arrested from the courtroom by local police. The court presided over by additional district and sessions judge Ajmal Wazir observed that the accused did not deserve to be granted pre-arrest bail.

It, however, confirmed pre-arrest bail of Ishaq's sister and a niece in the same case. An FIR was registered against the accused at Pishtakhara police station on June 11, 2012. The complainant, Ms Tahira, stated that she was married to Mr Ishaq around six months ago. She alleged that the accused got annoyed with her over a domestic dispute following which he tried to throw acid at her, but she resisted the move and the bottle of acid fell down. --
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  GOOD and I hope his cellmate has AIDS.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/11/2012 0:29 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Earthquakes Kill 87 in Iran
Halliburton licenses earthquake generating technology to Mossad.

Two strong earthquakes struck northwest Iran on Saturday, killing 87 people, injuring hundreds and scaring thousands into fleeing their homes as aftershocks continued to hit the area, Iranian state media said.

The U.S. Geological Survey measured Saturday's first quake at 6.4 magnitude and said it struck 60 km (37 miles) northeast of the city of Tabriz at a depth of 9.9 km (6.2 miles). A second quake measuring 6.3 struck 49 km (30 miles) northeast of Tabriz 11 minutes later at a similar depth.

The second quake struck near the town of Varzaghan. "The quake was so intense that people poured into the streets through fear," Fars news agency said of the town.

Tabriz is a major city and trading hub far from Iran's oil producing areas and known nuclear facilities.
Hmmm.
Though buildings in the city are substantially built, homes and businesses in Iranian villages are often made of concrete blocks or mud brick that can crumble and collapse in a strong quake.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 14:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Rebar? Rebar? We don't need no steenking rebar!"
Posted by: Frank G || 08/11/2012 15:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran quake death toll rises to 153
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/11/2012 15:17 Comments || Top||

#3  What did they do to offend Allan this time?
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/11/2012 15:21 Comments || Top||

#4  According to wikipedia most of the population of Tabriz is Azeri, with some small number of Armenians and Assyrians.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/11/2012 15:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Halliburton licenses earthquake generating technology to Mossad.

No way. Just because Dark Lord Cheney has a new heart doesn't mean he's mellowed...
Posted by: Halliburton:Earthquake/Tsunami Division || 08/11/2012 17:22 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Time, CNN suspend Fareed Zakaria for plagiarism
[Iran Press TV] Time magazine and CNN have suspended columnist and TV host Fareed Zakaria for plagiarizing several paragraphs from another writer and using them in one of his columns in Time.

In a statement issued on Friday, Zakaria, 48, said he made "a terrible mistake," adding, "It is a serious lapse and one that is entirely my fault,"
Yes. This is why it is important to feed and exercise one's conscience in one's youth, that it will be strong and alive until one hits one's dotage, as Mr. Zakaria has clearly done.
The News Agency that Dare Not be Named reported.

Time front man Ali Zelenko said in a separate statement that the magazine accepted Zakaria's apology but would suspend his column for one month, "pending further review," and CNN said it had also suspended him for his journalistic lapse.
Posted by: Fred || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's still a Time magazine?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/11/2012 9:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Fareed Zakaria is a journalist?
Posted by: Pappy || 08/11/2012 12:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Wonder if Harvard will pull his honorary degree?
Nah....
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/11/2012 12:48 Comments || Top||

#4  and an advisor to Obama
Posted by: Frank G || 08/11/2012 12:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Having a conscience is one thing. Believing you can get away with plagiarism in the internet age is something else.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  The Post-American World, Frank? That's what Obama reads? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 08/11/2012 13:14 Comments || Top||


The Civil War of 2016
Imagine Tea Party cut-throats seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled "Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A 'Vision' of the Future." It was written by retired Army Col. Kevin Benson of the Army's University of Foreign Military and Cultural Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., and Jennifer Weber, a Civil War expert at the University of Kansas. It posits an "extremist militia motivated by the goals of the 'tea party' movement" seizing control of Darlington, S.C., in 2016, "occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council and placing the mayor under house arrest." The rebels set up checkpoints on Interstate 95 and Interstate 20 looking for illegal aliens. It's a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.

The article is a choppy patchwork of doctrinal jargon and liberal nightmare. The authors make a quasi-legal case for military action and then apply the Army's Operating Concept 2016-2028 to the situation. They write bloodlessly that "once it is put into play, Americans will expect the military to execute without pause and as professionally as if it were acting overseas." They claim that "the Army cannot disappoint the American people, especially in such a moment," not pausing to consider that using such efficient, deadly force against U.S. citizens would create a monumental political backlash and severely erode government legitimacy.

The vision is hard to take seriously. As retired ArmyBrig. Gen. Russell D. Howard, a former professor at West Point, observed earlier in his career, "I am a colonel, colonels write a lot of crazy stuff, but no one listens to colonels, so I don't see the problem." Twenty years ago, then-Air Force Lt. Col. Charles J. Dunlap Jr. created a stir with an article in Parameters titled "The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012." It carried a disclaimer that the coup scenario was "purely a literary device intended to dramatize my concern over certain contemporary developments affecting the armed forces, and is emphatically not a prediction."

The scenario presented in Small Wars Journal isn't a literary device but an operational lay-down intended to present the rationale and mechanisms for Americans to fight Americans. Col. Benson and Ms. Weber contend, "Army officers are professionally obligated to consider the conduct of operations on U.S. soil." This is a dark, pessimistic and wrongheaded view of what military leaders should spend their time studying.

A professor at the Joint Forces Staff College was relieved of duty in June for uttering the heresy that the United States is at war with Islam. The B.O. regime contended the professor had to be relieved because what he was teaching was not U.S. policy. Because there is no disclaimer attached to the Small Wars piece, it is fair to ask, at least in Col. Benson's case, whether his views reflect official policy regarding the use of U.S. military force against American citizens.
Posted by: Glinesh Craling7938 || 08/11/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A professor at the Joint Forces Staff College was relieved of duty in June for uttering the heresy that the United States is at war with Islam. The B.O. regime contended the professor had to be relieved because what he was teaching was not U.S. policy.

The Tea Party, A.K.A. traditional America IS the arch enemy of our Muslim POTUS and his marxist/socialist domestic allies.
Posted by: Percy Grumble6122 || 08/11/2012 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, you didn't think comrades will give up power just because stupid & uninformed people cast their votes based on their racist/chauvinist/bitter clinger prejudices?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/11/2012 4:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Imagine Tea Party Left-Wing Radical cut-throats seizing control of a South Carolina town the U.S.A. and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

Oh, wait a minute. That's already happened.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/11/2012 8:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Since the Whiskey Rebellion, federal troops have been used dealing with numerous domestic situations. Of course the biggest being between 1861-65, however the longest running employment probably was in dealing with the indigenous tribes. In the modern era some of those have been -

Little Rock, AK: On September 24, 1957 the President ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000 member Arkansas National Guard.

Oxford, MS, 1962: Robert Kennedy called in 500 U.S. Marshals to take control, who were supported by the 70th Army Engineer Combat Battalion from Ft Campbell, Kentucky. They created a tent camp and kitchen for the US Marshals. To bolster law enforcement, President John F. Kennedy sent in U.S. Army military police from the 503rd Military Police Battalion, and called in troops from the Mississippi Army National Guard and the U.S. Border Patrol as well.[6] In the violent clash, two people died, including the French journalist Paul Guihard,[4] on assignment for the London Daily Sketch. He was found dead behind the Lyceum building with a gunshot wound to the back. One hundred-sixty US Marshals, one-third of the group, were injured in the melee, and 40 soldiers and National Guardsmen were wounded.

Detroit, MI: The 1967 Detroit riot, also known as the 12th Street riot, was a civil disturbance in Detroit, Michigan. To help end the disturbance, Governor George W. Romney ordered the Michigan National Guard into Detroit, and President Lyndon B. Johnson sent in Army troops. Shortly before midnight on Monday, July 24, President Johnson authorized use of Federal troops in compliance with the Insurrection Act of 1807, which authorizes the President to call in armed forces to fight an insurrection in any state against the government.

LA Riots, 1992: The rioting ended after soldiers from the California Army National Guard, along with U.S. Marines from Camp Pendleton were called in to stop the rioting.

on the lesser violent end of the spectrum, federal troops were employed in recovery actions during both Hurricanes Andrew and Katrina.

In the last three incidents (LA, Andrew and Katrina), federal troops engaged in security operations were largely employed in point security (guard duty) to relieve local law enforcement to permit them to conduct civil law enforcement. It was the cleanest means of avoiding complications arising from the Posse Comitatus Act.

On a side note, do not confuse PCA with the imposition of martial law.



Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/11/2012 8:42 Comments || Top||

#5  First mistake: Assuming ANY town in SC - especially Darlington, which is still about as Old School America as it gets - would let anybody take it over without a fight.

/American by the Grace Of God
//South Carolinian by adoption

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 08/11/2012 8:58 Comments || Top||

#6  I always sort of pictured it starting with the military, not untrained locals.
Posted by: Iblis || 08/11/2012 10:21 Comments || Top||

#7  I pray to God it does not happen. New research indicates nearly 700,000 lives were lost in the 'War Between The States.' There is no question that we are rapidly drifting in the wrong direction. Whatever happens, we must do everything possible avoid outcomes such as the one described in the article below.

Klik

Erma's Bordello
Discount for hotel residents
Bookings available at reception
Closed for religious services on Sunday
-- Notice above Reception desk,
Hilltop Pension, Arenas de Mar
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 10:30 Comments || Top||

#8  So there I am, walking to work in downtown New Orleans not long after Katrina, when things were still a bit dicey. Here comes a squad with two A's in a circle on their patches. Most comforting sight I ever saw. And I didn't have any doubt about whose side they were on.
Posted by: Matt || 08/11/2012 10:47 Comments || Top||

#9  I so enjoy stories that begin with...."and there I was...." Whahahaha, ABN ATW
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 11:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Yeah, the left bitches about W's response to Katrina, but I'm here to tell you he cared enough to send the 82nd to protect my family. I'll never forget that.
Posted by: Matt || 08/11/2012 11:56 Comments || Top||

#11  I have just two words to say in case anyone on here thinks they would never deploy military troops against demonstrators.

Bonus Army

The way things are going, there will eventually be a rebellion or localized insurrection. We will all get a fresh reminder of how little our "rights as citizens" mean to them. Then jug the survivors under the NDAA for the rest of their lives.
Posted by: || 08/11/2012 13:06 Comments || Top||

#12  If things fall completely to pieces, US military will be force to defend the key assets of the country - high-level politicians and their real employers. The rest of us will have to sort things out the hard way. Imagine 20 or so cities hit with disorders like the LA riots or Hurricane Katrina -- all at the same time and superimposed on a nationwide electric grid collapse.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/11/2012 13:11 Comments || Top||

#13  When tropical storms blow in from the Gulf, folks around here empty the shelves of the Kroger and Public's grocery stores in about 3-5 hours. Of course the stores fully recover in a day or two and it's business as usual. The frightening 'single or dual points of failure' for recovery are the Interstate Highway System and electronic banking. Not sure how long I could survive on zion zoyia salad and squirrel stew. Might get interesting pretty fast.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/11/2012 13:27 Comments || Top||

#14  I doubt that people in the North think much about the Civil War. In South, there are reminders everywhere of this costly war. Here in our part of Tennessee, battles and skirmishes took place from Chattanooga to the border of Southern Virginia. East from here across Tennessee to Memphis is also dotted by battle sites that had a dear cost to both sides. With the exception of Virginia, Tennessee had more Civil War battles than any other state.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/11/2012 15:01 Comments || Top||

#15  When I was working in Cambridge, Massachusetts I got into several discussions about the Civil War. What struck me most was when a Massachusetts resident said, "There are still scars around here from the War". He was talking about the small towns where small manufacturing plants had to close after the war because all of the able-bodied workers didn't return from the war. Most of the North didn't suffer near what the South did but they did suffer.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/11/2012 16:39 Comments || Top||

#16  1967 Mj. Bolling commanded the 3rd. bgd. 82nd. Abn. on the streets of Detroit by having the troopers run the streets in formation with their new M-16 assault rifles. Three months latter he commanded the brigade to "rule the night" to stop the infiltration of the NVA into Hue. An outstanding leader of men through three wars and on Labor day the Mess Hall at Fort Bragg will be named in his honor as the Division welcomes home its troopers from Afganistan, and finally welcomes home its troopers from the 3rd. Bgd. that proudly served in Vietnam. Thank you General Bolling for your service, and for bringing so many of us home alive.
Posted by: bman || 08/11/2012 18:11 Comments || Top||

#17  I have just two words to say in case anyone on here thinks they would never deploy military troops against demonstrators.

Today, there are more former service people that are just as well trained and blooded as there are active duty personnel. Most of these former service people consider themselves Patriots.

A lot of them intend to keep their oath, as do a lot of active duty personnel.

The U.S. Military has never had to face as determined, well trained and dedicated foe as their own countrymen. There would be widespread refusals, and outright sabotage by patriots in the ranks.

If it comes down to an outright r3b3llion, the people will prevail. Count on it.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 08/11/2012 19:20 Comments || Top||

#18  Is that our daily attempt to poison a bayesian filter?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/11/2012 20:44 Comments || Top||

#19  One of several, Snowy Thing. And now it's gone.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/11/2012 22:58 Comments || Top||



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