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-Lurid Crime Tales-
When Your Criminal Plans Include a "Getaway Donkey," you might want to just rethink.
H/T Instapundit
The trio of Colombian criminals were forced to ditch their ill-gotten gains, during the 2am theft, after the animal started to bray and alerted police.

The group had managed to steal rum, oil, rice, cans of tuna and sardines from a small shop in the tiny north Caribbean town of Juan de Acosta, according to Noticias Caracol.

They planned to load the goods onto 10-year-old Xavi, who they had stolen some 12 hours before, and make their escape. But the animal let out a series of 'hee-haws' and unfortunately for the trio alerted nearby police.

They had to ditch the donkey, which was still carrying the stolen items, and ran to safety away from the officers.

Shop owner Fabio Orozco said: "They came through the roof to rob. They took rum, rice, everything."

The donkey was detained in the town police station for 12 hours until owner Orlando Olivares was notified and came to collect him. All the items that had been stolen were returned to the store.
Posted by: Beavis || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336073 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Should have hot-wired a Jaguar instead.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/23/2013 5:26 Comments || Top||

#2  They took rum

With a plan like this, I would expect the rum was to refill their depleted supply.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 8:34 Comments || Top||

#3  What if the donkey is rocket powered?
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 12:36 Comments || Top||

#4  What if the donkey is rocket powered?

Then he should go to the asteroid prospectors.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 13:53 Comments || Top||

#5  He heee hee hiii! Y'allz stayz back from miz rock of platinum, yu hearz!

(crazy prospector's dance)
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/23/2013 15:50 Comments || Top||

-Short Attention Span Theater-
Giant goat-cheese fire closes Norwegian roadway for six days
Chuck Simmins posted this elsewhere, but it's a 'must see' item!
27 metric tons of flaming goat cheese burned inside a Norwegian road tunnel, closing nearly two miles of the road for six days. Brunost, a Norwegian cheese considered a delicacy, was being shipped in a truck that caught fire.
"This high concentration of fat and sugar is almost like petrol if it gets hot enough,"
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 09:35 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336080 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Flaming Brunost, not so gouda. :-(
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/23/2013 9:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Besoeker - go to your room! :)
Posted by: GORT || 01/23/2013 10:01 Comments || Top||

#3  And open the window to air things out. LOL
Posted by: lotp || 01/23/2013 10:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't let them wax your rind Besoeker, I thought the joke was cultured.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/23/2013 11:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Let's not start a flame war, swksvolFF
Posted by: lotp || 01/23/2013 12:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Fondue, anyone?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 01/23/2013 12:14 Comments || Top||

#7  "This high concentration of fat and sugar is almost like petrol if it gets hot enough"

Ima thinkin 'Norwegian napalm', or CAE (Cheese-Air Explosive).
Posted by: Pappy || 01/23/2013 12:14 Comments || Top||

#8  I might have to be neutral, wholly Swiss, in such a flame war to avoid a melt down.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/23/2013 12:23 Comments || Top||

#9  That fire sounds like it was a munster.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 01/23/2013 12:43 Comments || Top||

#10  Could be worse. Could be three tons of flaming pickled herring.
Posted by: Muggsy Mussolini1226 || 01/23/2013 13:04 Comments || Top||

#11  or 3 tons of lutefisk.
Posted by: Frozen Al || 01/23/2013 13:54 Comments || Top||

#12  Yet another thread filled with cheesy puns.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/23/2013 15:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Now we just need 50 tons of toasted bread...
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 01/23/2013 15:48 Comments || Top||

#14  The website describes Brunost as having a "slightly salty and surprisingly sweet flavor with a hint of goat about it."

Now we know why some middle-eastern folks think Norway is a great place to live.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 01/23/2013 16:49 Comments || Top||

#15  This story makes me feel Blue.
Posted by: Capsu78 || 01/23/2013 21:09 Comments || Top||

#16  Opa!
Posted by: linker || 01/23/2013 21:18 Comments || Top||

Africa North
'Insulting president' lawsuits reach 112-year peak under Morsi
[Al Ahram] Arab Network for Human Rights Information report highlights explosion of 'insulting the president' lawsuits filed during Morsi's reign, more than all other rulers combined since 1892
Posted by: Fred || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336073 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  'insulting the president' lawsuits
Coming soon to a courtroom near you???
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 8:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Nope, doctor's office, where they will be required to mentally evaluate all registered firearm owners each and every visit for whatever reason.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/23/2013 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of Elderberries!"
Posted by: Muggsy Mussolini1226 || 01/23/2013 14:50 Comments || Top||

Matrouh police station under siege, clashes ongoing
[Al Ahram] Three were injured during an attack on a police station in the Mediterranean city of Marsa Matrouh on Tuesday.

Families of several detainees from Marsa Matrouh's Al-Negeila and Sidi Brani districts besieged the police station in which their relatives were held captive, in an attempt to set them free after hearing of the prison sentences issued against them.

Police forces continue to surround the police station, with relatives in turn encircling the police. Live ammunition continues to be exchanged back and forth.

The assailants had tried to break into the west Matrouh police station using firearms, according to Al-Ahram's Arabic website.
Posted by: Fred || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336068 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

Africa Subsaharan
Liberia's Charles Taylor appeals war crimes sentence
[FRANCE24] Liberia's former president Charles Taylor
The former President-for-Life of Liberia, of whom the best that could be said was that he wasn't quite as horrible as Prince Johnson, at least not usually.
launched an appeal Tuesday against a 50-year sentence handed down by a UN court in May for his role in aiding the rebels responsible for war crimes during Sierra Leone's decade-long civil war.
Posted by: Fred || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336070 views] Top|| File under:

#1  On the other hand, he was a fine wide receiver for the Washington Redskins and played in the '72 Superbowl. Unfortunately I bet on the 'skins and lost $100.00. :((
Posted by: borgboy || 01/23/2013 14:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Chuck may be a war criminal, but his sneakers are still popular.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/23/2013 17:12 Comments || Top||

Return of end-of-course exams in major A-level overhaul
Traditional end-of-course exams will be reintroduced to A-levels under major plans to toughen up the qualification, the Telegraph has learnt.

Subject specialists from top universities will carry out annual reviews of exams to make sure course content is being properly assessed, it was revealed.

The move -- to be announced on Wednesday by Michael Gove, the Education Secretary -- is being billed as an attempt to restore academic rigour to qualifications sat by around 300,000 schoolchildren each year.

It comes amid claims that current A-levels fail to prepare students for the demands of higher education, with many universities complaining that school-leavers lack subject knowledge and basic skills.

In a letter to the head of Ofqual, Mr Gove said there was "clear dissatisfaction among leading university academics about the preparation of A-level pupils for advanced studies".

"I am concerned that some natural science degrees have become four-year courses to compensate for problems with A-levels," he said.

"Linguists complain about the inadequacy of university entrants' foreign language skills. Mathematicians are concerned that current A-level questions are overly structured and encourage a formulaic approach, instead of using more open-ended questions that require advanced problem-solving... There is also growing concern that private schools routinely teach beyond A-levels, giving their pupils an advantage in the competition for university places."
Seriously, they're complaining that some teachers and students work beyond the minimum? No wonder they have problems.
The Russell Group, which represents universities such as Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London and Durham, would form a new academic board to advise Ofqual on the content of A-levels.

It will focus principally on subjects commonly required for entry to its universities.

The move comes after it emerged that school-by-school league tables -- being published on Thursday -- will reveal how many teenagers gained good A-level passes in a string of rigorous subjects such as maths, English, the sciences, history, geography and languages. For the first time, it is intended to show many pupils leave schools "Russell Group ready".

Posted by: lotp || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336069 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ..major plans to toughen up the qualification

All together now - Racist!
/sarc off
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/23/2013 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Competition - as money becomes worthless, competition will become the root of all evil...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 01/23/2013 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  The class system in Britain is much more rigid than in the US. As a blue collar kid who leveraged scholarships to a professional career, I can sympathize with the concern that historically Oxford-Cambridge remain a lock for those able to afford private schooling. The solution isn't to hold back the private schools but to raise standards, quality and content in the publicly funded ones.
Posted by: lotp || 01/23/2013 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  The class system in Britain is much more rigid than [the one] in the US used to be. That do you think your new upper class trying to accomplish?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/23/2013 13:51 Comments || Top||

Two million quit Britain in 'talent drain'
Two million people of working age have left Britain over the last decade in a “drain of talent” that is damaging the economy and forcing employers to rely on immigrant workers, a senior Conservative has warned.

Nick de Bois, secretary of the 1922 Committee of backbench MPs, said that Britain needs a “culture change” to stem the flow of talented emigrants by encouraging success.

Office for National Statistics figures obtained by Mr de Bois show that in the ten years to 2011, a total of 3,599,000 people permanently left the UK.

Contrary to the perception of the typical emigrants being older people retiring to a life in the sun, the figures show that 1,963,000 of those who left were aged between 25 and 44.

By contrast, only 125,000 people of retirement age emigrated.

“Our most economically active are leaving to apply their talents elsewhere,” the MP said, warning that talented Britons are being lured away to “growth economies” elsewhere in the world.

Many of those who are leaving are going to work for foreign-based pharmaceutical, aerospace, engineering and creative companies, Mr de Bois said.

He added: “Questions have to be asked as to why, even in a truly global economy where labour markets are relatively open, we here in the UK cannot hold onto our own home-grown, home-educated talent.”

Research for the Home Office last year found that almost half of all Britons who emigrate each year are professionals and company managers.

Some business leaders have blamed Britain’s tax regime for encouraging skilled professionals and executives to leave.

Mr de Bois said tax does play a part in emigration, but suggested that culture is a more important factor, warning that Britain should encourage people to succeed and get rich, not criticise them.

Posted by: lotp || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336067 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ahm packin my bags.
Where did they go?
Posted by: Slolurong Angasing4343 || 01/23/2013 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Not to worry, they are replaced by Pakistanis: who, since all people are equal---shut up racists, are just as good.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/23/2013 2:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Plenty of my friends left within this time frame . Ill be going next year . Horrible place to live nowadays ,especially in cities .
Posted by: Ebbiling Angereper3767 || 01/23/2013 7:27 Comments || Top||

#4  "Where did they go?"
In the case of Britain, largely to Canada and Australia. I hear they're hiring.
Posted by: ed in texas || 01/23/2013 7:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Amongst people I know.
Hong Kong
about 1/2 have gone abroad (all degree owners).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/23/2013 9:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Strange, no mention of former sanctuaries and lands of opportunity; Deutsch-Südwestafrika, Rhodesia, South Africa, or the United States.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/23/2013 10:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Canada is kicking ass these days.
Posted by: Iblis || 01/23/2013 11:20 Comments || Top||

#8  Culture is the more important factor? That wouldn't have anything to do with the Paks, would it? As in multi-culture? You'd think somewhere, somebody might get a clue.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/23/2013 11:45 Comments || Top||

#9  #7, Iblis: SHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 01/23/2013 12:43 Comments || Top||

#10  That would be racist Ebbang.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 12:51 Comments || Top||

Tax on financial transactions approved for 11 EU states
[FRANCE24] EU finance ministers on Tuesday approved a move by Germany, France and nine other EU nations to introduce a tax on financial transactions to help pay for a bailout of European banks and discourage risky trades.
Posted by: Fred || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336073 views] Top|| File under:

"Karl Marx's body lies a-mouldering in the grave,
His soul's marching on."
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/23/2013 2:10 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd like to see a tax or fee charged on every order placed on Wall Street (etc.), whether filled or not; that would put an end to the computerized pump & dump games.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 8:39 Comments || Top||


It would mean the orders would be emplaced for larger more sudden movements.

If you want to cut speculatory positions then there's only one way, and that's to lower the volume of credit.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/23/2013 9:31 Comments || Top||

#4  The programs post zillions of simultaneous buy and sell orders, at all prices, never intending to actually fill the orders, but rather to create an artificial level of activity, and seek out the best 'real' price, which they then do fill. It's a legal-ish scam.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 9:43 Comments || Top||

#5  It's got nothing to do with buy or sell orders. It's got to do with taxable revenue streams.
Posted by: Fred || 01/23/2013 15:36 Comments || Top||

1,476 cases reported so far: Seven kids died of measles in Punjab
[Dawn] Chief Minister's Special Assistant on Health Khwaja Salman Rafique said on Monday seven children had died of measles while 1,476 cases of the disease had surfaced so far in the province in January.

Talking to the media after a meeting held to review the measles situation in the province, he said of the seven victims of the disease, one each died in Gujranwala and Kasur districts, while five others expired in Rajanpur district.

He said the health department had a stock of more than 1.2 million anti-measles doses, while two million doses were being procured through Unicef for which Rs243.7 million had already been paid. He hoped the consignment of the purchased doses would reach here within the next two weeks.

Mr Rafique said a vaccination campaign, in accordance with the World Health Organisation (WHO) guidelines, was continuing in the areas from where measles cases were being reported, targeting children in six-month to 10-year age group.

Earlier, Mr Rafique informed the meeting that the Punjab government had decided to launch a social mobilisation campaign through the media to sensitise parents about the importance of preventive vaccination against measles for their children. He said at the district level, DCOs were being given the task of disease surveillance, supervising vaccination and monitoring of case reporting.

He warned that the health EDOs concerned would be held responsible for any lapse in disease-control measures and a strict legal action would also be initiated against those found guilty of dereliction of duty in this regard.
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#1  Lets kill some infidels!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/23/2013 2:05 Comments || Top||

Steps to stop polio virus exportation urged
[Dawn] The Prime Minister's Polio Monitoring and Coordination Cell, World Health Organisation, Unicef and partners in Pakistain's Polio Eradication Initiative have called for urgent pre-emptive measures against exportation of the polio
...Poliomyelitis is a disease caused by infection with the poliovirus. Between 1840 and the 1950s, polio was a worldwide epidemic. Since the development of polio vaccines the disease has been largely wiped out in the civilized world. However, since the vaccine is known to make Moslem pee-pees shrink and renders females sterile, bookish, and unsubmissive it is not widely used by the turban and automatic weapons set...
virus after positive samples linked to the Sukkur district were discovered in Egypt, officials said on Monday.

"Two sewage samples collected from the Al Salam and Al Haggana areas of Cairo district and analysed in a laboratory bore resemblance to a strain discovered recently in sewage water tested in Sukkur," said a joint statement of Prime Minister's Polio Monitoring and Coordination Cell, World Health Organisation and Unicef.

"As a preemptive measure and to reduce the possibility of spread of the polio virus beyond Pakistain's borders, the government's Polio Monitoring and Coordination Cell is advising all provincial governments and federal administration to set up permanent vaccination counters inside international departure lounges of all airports so that all children under five years leaving the country are vaccinated against the poliovirus.

The Prime Minister's Polio Monitoring and Coordination Cell has already asked the Sindh government to improve its polio immunisation efforts to stop transmission of the virus in the province on an emergency basis, it added.

"Importation of polio virus is a stark reminder of risks associated with active poliovirus transmission in the country, and the need to make efforts to stop the transmission on urgent basis in Pakistain," the statement quoted Shahnaz Wazir Ali, the PM's focal person on polio eradication, as saying.

Although, it said, the virus had not infected any child in Egypt and the country remained polio-free since 2004, the Egyptian ministry of health had ordered immediate vaccination of all children aged below five years in the localities near Cairo from where the Pakistain-origin virus was discovered.

"Dr Ahmed Omar, of the ministry of health and population in Egypt, has stated that the ministry will start a campaign to vaccinate children under-five against polio in Ezbet Hagana Peace and Kaliobeya in Cairo," it said.

It said the Independent Monitoring Board (IMB) recently had also recommended international travel restrictions for the three polio endemic countries under the International Health Regulations.

"The assessment of the IMB reflects the global concern over Pakistain and other polio endemic countries. However,
if you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning...
regarding travel restrictions, it is understandable that every polio-free country would like to maintain its polio-free status and may consider taking steps to avoid importation of the virus," the statement quoted the emergency coordinator for polio eradication at the WHO, Dr Elias Durry, as saying.

Pakistain took major strides last year with a 71 per cent reduction in the number of polio cases with all but 28 districts free of polio virus transmission. The recent security related incidents in different parts of the country have exposed children to risk of contracting polio, a disease that causes permanent paralysis in young children.

"Polio virus type 3 has not been found in Pakistain since April 2012, whereas environmental samples have been found mostly negative for the polio virus except for a few sites in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa
... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central...
and Sindh," said the statement.

"According to Unicef's acting head of polio unit, Michael Coleman, it reinforces the urgent need for all caregivers across Pakistain to vaccinate children under five years of age against polio through the nearest health facility or through campaign vaccination teams. The country had reported 58 polio cases last year whereas this year, no polio case has been reported so far.
Posted by: Fred || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336073 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

Israel elections: Benjamin Netanyahu wins narrow victory
Benjamin Netanyahu has declared victory in Israel's general election as exit polls showed the right-wing bloc on course to win a narrow majority.
Fox News calls it a 'stunning setback'. We'll see...
The Israeli prime minister claimed the people had given him a mandate to form a "broad-based government" despite indications that voters had delivered a major blow to him, with his Likud Beiteinu bloc on course to win just 31 seats. Although still the largest party in the new Knesset, the projected result represents the loss of 11 seats and is fewer than opinion polls had predicted.

As polling stations closed, exit polls showed that Right-wing parties projected to win 61 or 62 seats in the country's 120-member parliament. The centre-Left bloc was forecast to win between 58 and 59 seats.

In the night's major surprise, the Centrist Yesh Atid party emerged as the second biggest party, with 19 seats -- well ahead of Naftali Bennett's pro-settler Jewish Home party, which was expected to win 12 seats, fewer than opinions had predicted. Labour was on course to finish third with 17 seats.

There was speculation that Yesh Atid, led by a former journalist, Yair Lapid, could enter a coalition with Mr Netanyahu, thus moderating the influence of the Right. Mr Netanyahu said he had spoken with Mr Lapid, reportedly telling him that the two could do "great things" for Israel.

It appeared that many wavering voters had swung behind Yesh Atid amid expectations of a strong showing for the Jewish Home party, which was strongly backed by settlers.

The prime minister, who had earlier warned supporters that the Likud government was "in danger", declared on his Facebook page that results represented "a wonderful chance for many changes".

"It is clear that the citizens of Israel have decided that they want me to continue in my position as prime minister, and for me to form as broad a coalition as possible," he wrote. "Starting tonight, I will commence efforts to form the broadest coalition possible." Earlier, the prime minister urged voters to back Likud Beiteinu after casting his vote in Jerusalem's Rahavia neighbourhood, before visiting the Western Wall, Judaism's holiest site.

"Likud-Beiteinu represents all the people. The stronger Likud-Beiteinu is, the easier it will be to lead Israel successfully," he said.

His comments were aimed at reversing the surge in support for the Jewish Home party, which advocates annexing large sections of West Bank land that the Palestinians want for a future state.
Posted by: lotp || 01/23/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336074 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now we shall see if Bibi can form a ruling coalition which freezes the f*cking celeb out.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/23/2013 1:46 Comments || Top||

#2  this analysis doesn't really get at the complexity of the situation

for example, the religious parties while generally supportive of Netanyahu do not agree with him on military service for yeshiva students, the Arab parties sometimes support labor but not on many security matters,

Posted by: lord garth || 01/23/2013 16:53 Comments || Top||

Science & Technology
US company aims to 'harvest' asteroids
[FRANCE24] A US company said Tuesday it plans to send a fleet of spacecraft into the solar system to mine asteroids for metals and other materials in the hopes of furthering exploration of the final frontier.

"Using resources harvested in space is the only way to afford permanent space development," said David Gump, chief executive of Deep Space Industries, noting that more than 900 new asteroids that pass near our planet are discovered each year.

"In this case, metals and fuel from asteroids can expand the in-space industries of this century. That is our strategy."

In a first step, the company plans to send "asteroid-prospecting spacecraft" into the solar system, with the first -- 55-pound (25-kilogram) "FireFlies" -- to be launched in 2015 on journeys of two to six months.

These will be followed as of 2016 by heavier 70-pound "DragonFlies" that will go on two- to four-year missions and bring back samples.

"This is the first commercial campaign to explore the small asteroids that pass by Earth," said Deep Space Chairman Rick Tumlinson.

"Using low-cost technologies and combining the legacy of our space program with the innovation of today's young high tech geniuses, we will do things that would have been impossible just a few years ago."

If all goes according to plan, Deep Space Industries predicts that, in a decade, it will be harvesting metals and other building materials from space rocks to build large platforms to replace communications satellites -- followed by solar power stations that would beam carbon-free energy back to Earth.
Sounds good. How do you "beam" power?
Microwave. It works. Don't stand too close...
"We will only be visitors in space until we learn how to live off the land there," Tumlinson said in a statement that also made a pitch for customers and sponsors.

"We are squarely focused on giving new generations an opportunity to change not only this world but all the worlds of tomorrow. Sounds like fun, doesn't it?"

Deep Space Industries is the second company to enter into the asteroid-mining business, following in the footsteps of Planetary Resources, which launched in April 2012 with the backing of top Google executives and film director James Cameron.
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#1  They wouldn't allow an oil pipeline, they would allow SPS?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/23/2013 2:13 Comments || Top||

#2  I want to see them land a Million Ton Freighter, that should end this nonsense.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/23/2013 10:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Rods from God would be cheap with these platforms. Of course even cheaper would be Rocks from God - (redirected asteroids)
Posted by: Water Modem || 01/23/2013 10:37 Comments || Top||

#4  You can use various microwave-based schemes or high-powered lasers.

Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 01/23/2013 10:39 Comments || Top||

#5  I remember when NASA landed the probe on the asteroid Eros back in '99 or so. 900 trillion worth of platinum on that one asteroid IIRC. What's the need to prospect when density and composition can be determined before landing? Maybe by "prospecting" they mean seeing if they can successfully land a probe and return it with payload in a viable and economical way.
Posted by: Lowspark || 01/23/2013 11:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Gonna need some serious genetic engineering to develop space burros for the prospectors.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/23/2013 11:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe by "prospecting" they mean seeing if they can successfully land a probe and return it with payload in a viable and economical way.

Bring back samples to be assayed, test out sensors for detecting other valuable minerals and metals. I say good, sooner the better, because at the rate government is going it wouldn't get done.
Posted by: High Heeled Boy || 01/23/2013 12:53 Comments || Top||

#8  SciFi story on this theme in Analog decades ago. Problem was, as a letter to the editor explained, that the asteroid or whatever mass is taken from it, is going one way, and we're going another. How much energy does it take to get it--asteroid or mined mass--to where we want it? Say, to a stable orbit far out. Then, once the item is manufactured, to get it to the customer.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 01/23/2013 13:58 Comments || Top||

#9  You have to slow an asteroid down, to drop it into a lower solar orbit - and avoid running into anything. Like a planet.
Posted by: Muggsy Mussolini1226 || 01/23/2013 14:52 Comments || Top||

#10  Richard Aubrey, if they find that out they can be on the forefront of asteroid defense.

I suspect they intend to hitch a ride and prospect and then drop off allowing the vast bulk of the mass to continue along its course. They can then try again in a few decades when it returns.

That or you send a robot mission with a mass driver and take a long time to bring the asteroid into cislunar orbit where we can get to it.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 01/23/2013 15:01 Comments || Top||

#11  Better off in a Lagrangian orbit, L4 or L5. Cislunar is too close for comfort.
Posted by: Muggsy Mussolini1226 || 01/23/2013 15:05 Comments || Top||

#12  rjschwartz
Right you are. However, in the words of the Master, TANSTAAFL.
Take a bit at a time, you need a lot of bits to be useful. Cumulatively, a lot of energy. Change orbit? Ditto.
The letter to the editor referenced asked how much energy would be necessary when you have a million-ton NiFe asteroid rotating once an hour. Memory fades, but iirc, the guy said, eighty-two Saturn Fives blasting for a week. Something like that. Then you've got that puppy continuing its orbit, but at least it isn't rotating.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 01/23/2013 15:46 Comments || Top||

#13  I actually thought that would be a good plot for a SciFi book. Terrorists hijack a asteroid mine and have it smash into the earth.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 17:23 Comments || Top||

#14  Yup, and I know what Religion the Pirates would be.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/23/2013 18:31 Comments || Top||

#15  Redneck.
You bet. But somebody else would have to be flying it first.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 01/23/2013 19:17 Comments || Top||

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Michigan’s Teachers Union threatens to sue members that don't pay dues
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 16:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336086 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah... that will help the declining membership and popularity rates.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 16:55 Comments || Top||

#2  ..by extension, can we sue citizens who don't pay taxes but reap the benefits?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/23/2013 17:34 Comments || Top||

#3  This is like the RIAA suing downlloaders - the desperate act of a dying industry.
Posted by: Thrater Thrineger7877 || 01/23/2013 19:19 Comments || Top||

Unions suffer sharp decline in membership
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 12:53 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336079 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Layoffs and job growth at non-union firms. Who woulda thunk it?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/23/2013 14:02 Comments || Top||

#2  That and once people are given a choice of being in a union vs not, a lot jump and choose not. Little wonder unions keep fighting for mandatory membership and dues.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/23/2013 14:21 Comments || Top||

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